Not really politics, but Evolution... (cont. a thread)
- 02-10-2006, 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
anywho, i have read some stuff about that. I've read some Christian sites that think it is Archangels who may be good or evil. But that these angel have a greater understanding of physics and dimension then us.....
and it talked about crop circles and how many of them must have appeared in just minutes.... i mention this because it talked about the machines that must have been used to create the pattern in such a precise and rapid fashion without making any noise.
Also mentioned some stone that was placed on the top of the tower of babel that had some meaning related to ufo's. I don't know what i think about it.
I'm trying to eliminate the word "quack" from my vocabulary because often enough people like this will end up having some shocking truth to their stories/theories.
- 02-10-2006, 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by www.NASA.gov
You'd think it would be easier to find information on vacuum chambers and how NASA uses them, geez. This is all I've come up with, and I'm getting nowhere fast, so I'm done with the vacuum chamber stuff. lol.
- 02-10-2006, 05:42 PM
who is Fox Mulder?
and sorry for posting such out there stuff..... i'm just seems like people like CDB always have something intersting to add to ideas like this so i just figured id throw them out there
02-10-2006, 05:45 PM
02-10-2006, 05:45 PM
Fox Moulder is the guy on the X-Files who was the 'believer'. He believe in UFO's and paranormal activity, etc. His partner was the skeptic.
02-10-2006, 05:47 PM
I'm just messing with Old Bourbon breath for the fun of it. In all seriousness, I've known a couple of people that were on the operational fringes of DARPA, they have some damn interesting things to say about weapon and mind control technologies in development.
02-10-2006, 05:48 PM
got ya....Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
i just find this stuff interesting......
i'm not one to accept things easily.... that why i have been disclaiming all of this and saying that these are simply things i have heard, and that i dont know how credible the sources are.
02-10-2006, 05:49 PM
I think it was your wording that stirred us up. You said "Can't tell ya, sorry" as if it were some big secret....Area 51 style, lol.Originally Posted by Whiskey Steve
But, everyone's just playin' around man. No worries.
02-10-2006, 05:52 PM
About a year ago, I downloaded a file on the net that was supposedly Space Shuttle video of unknown space craft that were flying from the earth into orbit, it was supposedly intercepted by someone in a TV station and released by them.
I'm just Fing with you Steve, You know I'm a member of the borderline Paranoid Conspiracy Club myself.
02-10-2006, 05:53 PM
I don't understand why "they" (whoever the hell that is) doesn't use this technology for peace.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
Why do they alway use their understanding of molecular structure and energy to make weapons.
We as human beings can radiate feelings and energy to effect others. Why hasn't science found a way to duplicate this on a high intensity level.
I know that the movie "what the bleep do we know" is outdated but still.... the experiment they did in DC (i think) with a mass group of people meditating did in fact lower the crime rate due to the positive energy they were sending out.
I would not be suprised if their is a machine in existance that can create this type of energy.
02-10-2006, 06:10 PM
Most of the claims of Psychics have been disproven by guys like the magician skeptic James Randi, but I did see a Discovery Channel show a while back where the researchers, seemingly credible scientists from a university, had statistically proven that people could influence the behavior of Computer logic gates and rolled dice with their thoughts.
IMO, there's some reality to "Magic" , which could be described as just presently unknown science, and there's so much deception to get through to find this reality.
02-10-2006, 06:13 PM
I absolutly believe that.....but in a religious path of thought.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
but how it happens may still be explained by science. that would shake my belief. i would just understand how it is taking place.
02-10-2006, 06:21 PM
ya but you don't blab it all over the internet.....Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
and im not either. thats why i said what i did earlier
02-10-2006, 06:32 PM
I believe we are on the verge of being able to understand and then manipulate the fundamental mechanics of our world, and that does'nt mean we cast aside the belief in god, it's just that we may soon learn to use some of his tools and techniques.
The problem appears to be that we can make enormous strides in technology, but our development of wisdom and the accompanying emotional maturity has not kept pace. Humans are still ruled by our primal biology and I don't see us progressing here fast enough to properly use these tools, our evolutinary successors, the sentient computers, may be the salvation of our species.
02-10-2006, 06:35 PM
I don't know anything that's not already been disclosed on the net already by others.Secrets don't remain so as long as they once did.
02-10-2006, 06:53 PM
LOTS of stuff is kept hyper-secret. Anti-Gravity is one, mass mind control another, etc. BTW, a second-generation mass mind control was developed by Hitler, who had some pretty good teachers. It has evolved humongously since then and is IMO the most important threat to mankind at this point. What good is "freedom" when ONE way to think is forced upon you without your knowledge? The enemy of freedom is MUCH more subtle than one might believe.
EXACTLY. Other intelligences in the Universe, wether you call them god, angels, demons, little people, pixies, aliens or whatever, will only make themselves seen when mankind is grown up enough to either be able to deal with them with some kind of maturity OR become a serious threat to the local structure of the universe.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
I do believe that Evolution is something a race must do by itself and that this is a very very fundamental LAW of evolution. This ties in perfectly with religion, whereby God the Almighty doesn't intervene even when men do something He "doesn't want us to", like murder, rape, genocide, etc. BTW I am not religious in any way.
02-10-2006, 06:54 PM
I have read that within 50? years, we may be able to incorporate other animal, insect and/or plant DNA into our own, to give us ability to do things like live in the Sea.
I've also read that it's theoritically possible to transfer the conciousness of a human being through nanotechnology into a machine.
I obviously need someone's good spelling gene, anyone got an extra?
02-10-2006, 06:59 PM
Yeh, I've read of plans to have carbon-fiber bones, diamond teeth, muscles 100x as powerful, replacing most membranes with spider silk, etc.
I'm keeping my genes just the way they are, thank you.
02-10-2006, 07:07 PM
I'll take the new teeth,IMO, that's one sorry area of human physiology, no matter how conciousness you are in their care, they will rot away anyway.
02-10-2006, 07:08 PM
My religious beliefs prevent me from thinking this will evercome about.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
02-10-2006, 07:09 PM
Just eat with silver cutlery and you'll keep your teeth 1500 years. Anything else I can do for you?Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
02-10-2006, 07:11 PM
hmmmm.Originally Posted by Grunt76
i wonder how this could be done....
maybe in steps...
i doubt you can transfer the consciousness (i call it the soul) of a human being into something.
but then again, i believe in things like astro projection so maybe we could just create a "perfect" or super body and then choose to enter it.
02-10-2006, 07:13 PM
Re: Matter, thought and science
lets not lie just to make friends.........jkOriginally Posted by Aeternitatis
(when we reply now it says "Re: Matter, thought and science")
02-10-2006, 07:16 PM
Re: Matter, thought and science
Ahh, I like that idea. It's so mind boggling. For example, I was reading about how God exists outside of time. Well, that would mean that to him time is not a linear chain but a single point. In others words, all that happened, is happening or will happened occurs all at once. Mind boggling.Originally Posted by Grunt76
I've personally never believed in time. Even since I was a child I didn't believe in it. I remember arguing about it to some adult when I was in the 4th grade. Time just never made any sense.
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02-10-2006, 07:16 PM
02-10-2006, 07:22 PM
The movie "What the bleep do we know?".
Well I don't think it was a dumbass movie at all. I rather liked it, it was explaining some rather arcane developments of science in a way that was pretty understandable for most people.
Most people aren't terribly science-inclined. A lot are rather porn-and-beer inclined. Which isn't that WRONG per se, but does diminish the mental horizons when such remains the focus of one's life for too long. In that aspect, the Bleep was a GREAT movie.
To me, the science in there was obviously dated, but I sure was GLAD that the information was made available to most people. Talk to joe average about other dimensions and you'll see a thick glaze over his eyes or ask me if I'm in a religious sect or somesuch nonsense. Now that they can see in a movie that it's real science, this might cause an incremental change in the masses' mind.
02-10-2006, 07:27 PM
02-10-2006, 07:42 PM
Re: Matter, thought and science
In religion we always think in terms of from "eternity to eternity"...Originally Posted by Aeternitatis
And we say that God has the past present and future in one eternal round.
I think our definition of eternity is wrong. I dont think it is a word to describe limitless time. I think it is a word that should encompass our perceptions of past, present, and future. There is no such thing as time.
The best definition i can come up with for eternity would be: the growing account of percieved happenings.
(but even that doesn't really work)
02-10-2006, 07:47 PM
I wouldn't be so quick as to throw it out.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
if it had no purpose (did not speak to you ect.) then it was probably a halucination.
I have never seen anything like that while healthy. One time as a child i had a fever of 104+ and saw some elves in my bathroom on my way to go hurl. Seemed very real, but it is obvious it was a malfunction. Also what helps me know that i was halucinating was the fact that it was the rice crispy elves. So just they just popped out of my memory just like they could if i was dreaming.
yours does sound scary and possible real though.
Was there anything going on at the time that could have affected your brain function (fever, medication, drugs, starvation, sleep deprivation, excessive physical activity, played on the swingset to long lol)
02-10-2006, 07:55 PM
You know, there is absolutely nothing new about "communicating with spirits". All the ancient civilizations did it and most of the religions speak of "angels" which by all accounts are also non-solid beings.Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
Of course this modern world will retort "yeah, but they were all just superstitious savages so of COURSE they were making **** up". But then again, the great pyramids and the science represented in the Maya temples and their advanced knowledge of the solar system doesn't make them terribly savage and ignorant...
02-10-2006, 07:57 PM
oddly enough its giving me the creeps too...Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
sometimes when i am driving at night is will go around a corner and as my lights illuminate mailboxs in my peripheral vision it will apear as a child running away from me.....
yours sound very real though. did your partener see it?
i think it sounds like you looked too long for it to just be a halucination.
02-10-2006, 08:05 PM
I believe (from my religious books) that their are Angels that have bodies and those that do not.Originally Posted by Grunt76
Speaking of ancient civilizations being more advanced...
according to some stuff i read on the web (maybe all a lie); i think it was 3 hundreds years ago in the middle east a valley was found that was completely covered in glass. And every stone was burnt on the side of it that faced toward the center of the valley. They did not know what is was at the time so they (cant remember who it said "they" were) got spooked and left. But now they think it is the result of an atomic bomb....
02-10-2006, 08:05 PM
02-10-2006, 08:12 PM
I haven't..... but i dont know if i care toOriginally Posted by Rogue Drone
I scare the ****ing **** out of myself without outside info about this subject matter.
The times I have been most scared in my life are when i have been "safely" in my room by myself.......i get praying for protection real quick.
they dont really have to go "hunting"......evil spirits will gladly come to you... just buy a weegy board.
02-10-2006, 08:26 PM
sounds to real to be a hallucination...Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
and to wierd to be a real child...
I'll pray that it doesn't happen to you again (seriously).
02-10-2006, 08:56 PM
02-10-2006, 09:10 PM
02-10-2006, 09:18 PM
I'm not too familiar with Paganism.... multiple Gods?Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
if you don't care to explain then thats fine
02-10-2006, 10:31 PM
02-10-2006, 10:46 PM
I respect that.......Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
probably more than if you would have explained it.
I get trampled on so friggin much here its rediculous
well done Rogue Drone
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