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  2. Romney 52%
    Obama 48%
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Romney 52%
    Obama 48%
    i still don't understand how obama has such a high approval rating... its pretty sickening

  4. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    i still don't understand how obama has such a high approval rating... its pretty sickening
    Think of consumer goods...such as cars. Lets take Ford for example...with such a terrible history in recent years, with proper financing of marketing and advertising people still go out and buy them.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Romney 52%
    Obama 48%
    So Romney is currently in the lead?

    And Obama has a high amount of % voting for him, because in a crowded room if you don't vote for him you are automatically considered a racist. The other day I had someone accuse me of being racist and it was anti-American of me to not vote for Obama. My response was "do you see that USMC sign on my truck?" He said "yeah". I said "I spent 7 months in Afghanistan, so am I still being anti-American?" I think that usually shuts people like that up for me anyway but there is a nurse at the hospital that accuses everyone of being racist because they aren't voting for Obama. It's a shame.
    Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Think of consumer goods...such as cars. Lets take Ford for example...with such a terrible history in recent years, with proper financing of marketing and advertising people still go out and buy them.
    What the hell are you talking about?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by kingk0ng View Post
    So Romney is currently in the lead?

    And Obama has a high amount of % voting for him, because in a crowded room if you don't vote for him you are automatically considered a racist. The other day I had someone accuse me of being racist and it was anti-American of me to not vote for Obama. My response was "do you see that USMC sign on my truck?" He said "yeah". I said "I spent 7 months in Afghanistan, so am I still being anti-American?" I think that usually shuts people like that up for me anyway but there is a nurse at the hospital that accuses everyone of being racist because they aren't voting for Obama. It's a shame.
    These people play the race card because they have nothing else to use to persuade people that Obama deserves our votes.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?
    The American people through the media, internet and television are sold on the presidential candidates. It has nothing to do with who is most qualified or giving people real choices. People (most) in the end will vote for crap and choose between coke and pepsi.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Think of consumer goods...such as cars. Lets take Ford for example...with such a terrible history in recent years, with proper financing of marketing and advertising people still go out and buy them.
    good example. but don't people what good news channels...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ax1

    Think of consumer goods...such as cars. Lets take Ford for example...with such a terrible history in recent years, with proper financing of marketing and advertising people still go out and buy them.
    I thought gm was worse then ford??

  11. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    These people play the race card because they have nothing else to use to persuade people that Obama deserves our votes.
    You are exactly right about that.
    Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS

  12. I thought gm was worse then ford??
    Lets not forget Ford was the only one between Dodge and Chevy that didn't file bankruptcy. Personally, I switched to a Chevy Silverado about a month ago and I just spent an hour at a dealership today wanting to trade it in for a Ford F150. I think Ford is dominating the competition right now, JMO.
    Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS

  13. Quote Originally Posted by gregg1494 View Post
    I thought gm was worse then ford??
    Exactly...typical voting is based on what you think may not be as bad as the other. One brand is slightly better and it gives you that false sense of hope.
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  14. Here is how democrats get votes:

    1.) circle jerk with the unions. This is criminal racketeering.
    2.) yell racism.
    3.) play class warfare.
    4.) guberment handouts (50% of people pay no fed taxes!)
    5.) get illegals to vote.

    This is all for the elitist lefties power to force control over everyone. Odumbo is their king.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    Here is how democrats get votes:

    1.) circle jerk with the unions. This is criminal racketeering.
    2.) yell racism.
    3.) play class warfare.
    4.) guberment handouts (50% of people pay no fed taxes!)
    5.) get illegals to vote.

    This is all for the elitist lefties power to force control over everyone. Odumbo is their king.

    hhahahahaha yes! so true

  16. Quote Originally Posted by kingk0ng View Post
    Lets not forget Ford was the only one between Dodge and Chevy that didn't file bankruptcy. Personally, I switched to a Chevy Silverado about a month ago and I just spent an hour at a dealership today wanting to trade it in for a Ford F150. I think Ford is dominating the competition right now, JMO.
    None of that actually has anything to do with the quality of GM, Ford or Chrysler products.
    They are all very well built cars and to use them in the example as was done earlier is totally unfair.

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    This thread is strong with conservatives.
    Im not a conservative at all.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    None of that actually has anything to do with the quality of GM, Ford or Chrysler products.
    They are all very well built cars and to use them in the example as was done earlier is totally unfair.
    Some are built well, but all in all the past 30 years they have been a huge disappointment in the reliability department.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    None of that actually has anything to do with the quality of GM, Ford or Chrysler products.
    They are all very well built cars and to use them in the example as was done earlier is totally unfair.
    I agree with what you're saying, I was just stating that Ford was the only company that didn't file bankruptcy. I agree that GM, Ford and Dodge are all great vehicles. People have their preference and they know they prefer why. My high school graduation present was a Dodge Ram 1500 and to this day it was the best truck I've ever had, but I'm not a big dodge man. My wife had a Ford Focus up until a couple of weeks and we loved it, but my dads Silverado 2500 is probably the strongest truck I've ever drove. It's all in your preference, but I do prefer Fords.

    I am conservative to say the least, in most ways anyway. I don't agree with every single thing that either party says, but I agree more with conservative views than liberal.
    Former Marine, UT-BSN, NSCA-CPT, NASM-CPT, CSCS

  21. Really, you are actually going to use a span of years as long as 30 to judge the last few years as you did in your earlier post?

    ALL auto makers have made huge strides in improving their cars in the last 10 years. They all sucked in the 1970 and 1980s, and now they are all very well built.

    Your opinion, I believe is not based on anything tangible or concrete.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Im not a conservative at all.
    I wasn't referring to you.

  23. Edit: Post wasn't to me.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by powerman2000 View Post
    Really, you are actually going to use a span of years as long as 30 to judge the last few years as you did in your earlier post?

    ALL auto makers have made huge strides in improving their cars in the last 10 years. They all sucked in the 1970 and 1980s, and now they are all very well built.

    Your opinion, I believe is not based on anything tangible or concrete.
    Well, Id say your right and Im wrong. I do believe all in all American cars have improved. The 80's and was the worst imo. Chrystler has been a nightmare as of recent. I still dont think they are to the standards of companies such as Honda and Toyota, but there are good American options these days.

    I do own an American car by the way, but I do my research and make sure I have a better than average one.
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