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  1. Using SAT and ACT as a guide is misleading and in fact many universities are now starting to look away from these tests, or at least not giving the same weight to the scores.

    DA, you and I are not going to convince each other of anything at this point. All I can tell you is that nearly a decade of experience both in the classroom and in administrative meetings has shown me some of the flaws in your arguments.

    With that said, I will leave now and just say that Christie is short sighted and is hurting the state more than helping it.

    Good day


  2. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Using SAT and ACT as a guide is misleading and in fact many universities are now starting to look away from these tests, or at least not giving the same weight to the scores.

    DA, you and I are not going to convince each other of anything at this point. All I can tell you is that nearly a decade of experience both in the classroom and in administrative meetings has shown me some of the flaws in your arguments.

    With that said, I will leave now and just say that Christie is short sighted and is hurting the state more than helping it.

    Good day
    Honestly, I do not care to convince you of anything in the long run. I brought my case, and backed it up firmly with evidence across the board. If the the common barometers used in society today to judge education are useless, then we are at a cross roads on what to do all together, and as we have seen across the US, throwing money at public schools is doing nothing for the youth. Now we have nothing but an over bloated public system that is churning out adults with falling grades, lower testing scores, and lower College attendance.

    I just think it is funny that you disregard every fact I have presented because I am not on the inside, which may be the reason you think that way, kind of blinded by the system.

    I have proved that Private institutions do better at educating our children than public institutions at less than half the cost.. some as little as 25% of the cost in some urban areas.

    As you said though, we will not agree. And I do know it is an uphill battle debating with someone who is part of the system I question. Ron Paul did a great speech about the Public schools failing and advocated for a state level voucher program and education tax credits.
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  3. Christie for President

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp View Post
    Christie for President
    Word!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp View Post
    Christie for President


    Hey, maybe we could fall further behind the other nations of the world with more education cuts on a national level.
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  6. Well most have a lower debt to gdp ratio so that's actually a good thing. We have the second highest ratio in the world and that has to change. When Christie brings the wealth back to New Jersey, then you might see things change. More wealth does create more tax revenue which will allow them to add back to education.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by youngandfree View Post
    Well most have a lower debt to gdp ratio so that's actually a good thing. We have the second highest ratio in the world and that has to change. When Christie brings the wealth back to New Jersey, then you might see things change. More wealth does create more tax revenue which will allow them to add back to education.
    So in essence, until this happens, watch NJ property values and schools suffer. Thats not sound leadership IMO

  8. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    So in essence, until this happens, watch NJ property values and schools suffer. Thats not sound leadership IMO
    Well that would imply that they haven't suffered yet in the last decade.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post


    Hey, maybe we could fall further behind the other nations of the world with more education cuts on a national level.
    Because, as I have proved, throwing money at the problem has worked so well so far right?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by youngandfree View Post
    The tax payers are already paying for education. When stretched thin, they aren't going to pay out of pocket again for private school. I think this is why the school voucher program is necessary. If not school vouchers, the taxpayers that want private school get a tax reduction in order to pay for private schooling.

    And don't forget about Obama flushing the voucher program in DC while his kids go to Sidwell Friends. Now the friends of the Obama kids that were on the voucher program getting a good education get to go back to public school.
    You nailed it here. And why was this point ignored by the guy who works as a teacher?

    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    You make some very gross generalities. Based on your points families would all want to send their kids to private schools since it would be less expensive and a better education.
    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Lets look at this from the perspective of common sense. If it was so much cheaper nationally, why wouldnt everyone send their kids for this "better education"?
    Vouchers would make this possible. Would you support that?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp View Post
    Christie for President
    Hell yeah!!!!!

  12. didnt mean to rehash this, but just curious if anyone has heard the other issue from the Christie administration?

    It seems that NJ will now not be able to make a claim toward their "Race to the Top" money as the Christie admin screwed the pooch on the forms. I am sure that this is the teachers fault, as Christie can blame them for not teaching him how to read and write properly

  13. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    didnt mean to rehash this, but just curious if anyone has heard the other issue from the Christie administration?

    It seems that NJ will now not be able to make a claim toward their "Race to the Top" money as the Christie admin screwed the pooch on the forms. I am sure that this is the teachers fault, as Christie can blame them for not teaching him how to read and write properly

    So now you're happy that you aren't getting the funds because of a clerical error in a 1000 page application? Boy you teachers really hate him don't you...


    "A new Quinnipiac University Poll on Thursday found 51 percent of voters approve of Mr. Christie’s job performance, while 36 percent of voters say they disapprove.

    The latest poll marks a significant change in momentum for the Republican governor. The last poll, issued in June, had Mr. Christie with a 44 percent approval rating. Forty-four percent of voters in the that poll disapprove of Mr. Christie’s performance as governor. "


    That must sting
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute View Post
    So now you're happy that you aren't getting the funds because of a clerical error in a 1000 page application? Boy you teachers really hate him don't you...


    "A new Quinnipiac University Poll on Thursday found 51 percent of voters approve of Mr. Christie’s job performance, while 36 percent of voters say they disapprove.

    The latest poll marks a significant change in momentum for the Republican governor. The last poll, issued in June, had Mr. Christie with a 44 percent approval rating. Forty-four percent of voters in the that poll disapprove of Mr. Christie’s performance as governor. "


    That must sting
    quite the contrary. not happy at all. However, I was acknowledging the irony of it all.
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