Thanks everyone for the help.

**panther77** · 08-25-2009 03:44 PM

way to be man, thats sick! i cant believe you didnt have loose skin to be honest

**silverSurfer** · 08-25-2009 10:54 PM

WOW!

Definitely double

**mrutah** · 08-26-2009 07:07 PM

hey guys sorry to bug you again, I was wondering after the show I ate a TON of trash, then sunday i ate pretty good but at dinner ate a TON more trash, then monday I ate good all day but my family made me a dinner so i ate a TON more trash food.ha
So I guess I was wondering is the giggly stuff I got going on in my stomach fat or is it just water? I mean I haven't been binging every meal ever since the contest just a meal a day for three days then I got back on track. I just hope its not fat I can barely see the outline of my top 4 abs and I seem to have a lot of giggles in the lower half but it giggles in the upper half also, if its water how long does it take to get rid of it and is there anything I can do. I sure hope its not all fat.

**REEVESDIESEL** · 08-26-2009 07:34 PM

Your just bloated. Don't worry about it? Hey, did you get the ebook?

**b18cyaaa** · 08-26-2009 10:40 PM

you look good. Losing that much weight, that fast, seems borderline unhealthy. you look good.

**epilogue** · 08-27-2009 05:48 AM

Wow! What was your start weight? You must have nice elasticity in your skin. I used to be pretty heavy(5'8" 240) and I have quite a bit of loose skin, and stretch marks.

**Chucke** · 08-28-2009 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by mrutah

hey guys sorry to bug you again, I was wondering after the show I ate a TON of trash, then sunday i ate pretty good but at dinner ate a TON more trash, then monday I ate good all day but my family made me a dinner so i ate a TON more trash food.ha
So I guess I was wondering is the giggly stuff I got going on in my stomach fat or is it just water? I mean I haven't been binging every meal ever since the contest just a meal a day for three days then I got back on track. I just hope its not fat I can barely see the outline of my top 4 abs and I seem to have a lot of giggles in the lower half but it giggles in the upper half also, if its water how long does it take to get rid of it and is there anything I can do. I sure hope its not all fat.

When coming off a carb depleted diet you should add carbs back in VERY slowly. Preferably low GI carbs at first - ones that produce small fluctuations in your glucose and insulin levels...

Yeah - your just bloated. Back off the trash food and you'll be fine.

At the same time though - Understand that there's no way to maintain the level you competed at - you're going to get smoother and loose some vascularity. It would be unhealthy to try and maintain that BF level for too long a period.

**loki515** · 08-28-2009 10:43 AM

wow very impressive. congrats on your first place also.
when I cut in the spring and summer, then get back to eating junk my stomach does the same thing. I believe as someone said it takes time for your system to get used to those heavy carbs again.

**mrutah** · 08-28-2009 06:20 PM

thanks for the replys guys, its so weird, I have been eating good from tuesday on, although I have been eating more carbs and protein in hopes I can do what some have said and take advantage of your body being more anabolic post cut. Its just weird my stomach has gone down a little bit, its still bigger but it just looks super smooth but I still have vascularity in my lower abs, until I hit lower stomach, and also vascularity in legs calfs and still in arms and shoulders. Maybe its going to take more than week for it to go away.
Thanks again for the posts guys,

**Tansui** · 12-12-2009 09:15 PM

holy crap man, nice work

**Link24** · 12-14-2009 03:54 PM

What was your starting and ending weight??

**mrutah** · 12-14-2009 07:19 PM

240 to 170

Originally Posted by Link24

What was your starting and ending weight??

**Orangepeel** · 12-16-2009 12:20 PM

Any outlines on your cut? What kind of program did you follow?

**hog928** · 12-17-2009 09:07 PM

wow what supps did you use for this cause WOW thats amazing.

**monstermash** · 12-18-2009 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by hog928

wow what supps did you use for this cause WOW thats amazing.

Congrats on the AMAZING cut!!

What kind of diet plan did you use?

Were any anabolics used during this cut? ( not in any way trying to take away from the amazing amount of effort and discipline you showed us.I'm just curious of all the tools used on such a successfull cut. Again, good job man!)

**wolverines** · 12-18-2009 08:23 PM

I have never seen vascularity like that in my entire life... Damn I wish I had that

**cloc** · 12-19-2009 01:40 AM

bump how did you do this diet supps aas ect??

**NYCDiesel** · 12-19-2009 08:09 AM

look likes your made out of granite, good job man whish I could get shredded like that

**mrutah** · 12-20-2009 10:47 AM

Thanks guys for all the comments, sorry I haven't gotten back on sooner. I am sorta ashamed I put all this work towards the cut last year to compete and now im bulking and I don't look near as ripped if you had seen my other pic I am currently bulking I will post that one as well because I want everyones opinion on if you think im doing a better job at keeping it clean this year. im sure you guys know the situation you can't work on your flaws in lack of mass without putting on weight in the process muscle with some fat.
Anyways I just wanted to answer some of the questions that had came up.
I used eca stack all the way during the cut. at the end I added in designer supplements lean xtreme. as far as vascularity I used no shotgun and gaspari plasmajet on the days of pictures, I always took pics on saturdays because those are the days I took my measurements bodyfat and tried out various products to see what I wanted to use on contest day, no anabolics during this cut.
as far as diet I kept it simple I used a very basic carb cycling diet. I would eat 240 grams of protein 160 carbs and 45 grams of fat daily broken up into 6 meals. every 4th day I would eat 230 grams of carbs 200 grams protein and same amount of fat. Cardio would consist of 2 days a week of hitt and all the rest of the days I would do moderate intensity training for 40 minute sessions. If I hit wednesday or thursday and hadent at least droped a pound I would add an extra cardio session at night for another 20 minutes.

Any other questions just let me know.

Again the pics at the bottom are of my current bulk im trying to keep it lean but I needed to get mass in some areas in perticular my traps. So thats what im currently working on and I would love some feedback to see if you guys are thinking im doing it right. Its just tough because I worked so hard during my last cut, but now I need to gain some mass. But I have a pretty good Idea on how to get back there. Thanks for your input.

**cloc** · 12-20-2009 05:47 PM

you look so much bigger how long have you been bulking now and what are you using for this bulk?