Test/dbol Cycle (Before/After pics)
- 10-02-2008, 02:34 PM
- 10-03-2008, 08:27 AM
10-03-2008, 11:11 AM
10-03-2008, 11:20 AM
Im with King. I dont see much improvement...Ido see it though. I just dont see any shape difference or anything drastic.
I also think if you wanted lean gains, Dbol was a poor idea. You gained so much cause wether you think youre "prone" to bloating or not it happened. Bloating is gettina fat belly and puffy, sometimes its referenced as in the mucles, ie holding more water/glycogen.
Also, it was a bit premature to us AAS in my mind. You should have gotten back to where you were pre-surgery or realy focused on your diet for awhile. Im 204 at 10%~ and i only used Mdrol last year and havoc recently. BUT i was at 200lb pre-havoc and all my gains are still here and i had 0 increase in BF.
Soemtimes its not about the weight buthow you gain the weight.
goodluck in th future.
an PS- 500lb shrugs? I rack dead 500~ i couldnt imagine shruging it...
10-03-2008, 11:22 AM
Also,prop and tren? Do you realize that those are prolly 2 of the more painful compounds to pin for whatever reason? Be veyr careful so you dont get an infection with the Tren and keep an eye on health for the tren flu, mouth abcess etc...
Winny the same if you ever decide to pin that, hurts.
10-03-2008, 11:41 AM
i agree, i definitely wasnt at a weight i wanted to be at before i started. but i had the knowledge and my mind was set.
i really think that years of treatment with cortico-steroids (prednisone...fuking evil drug) caused me to retain fat/bloat in my midsection and love handles....its notorious for that and also facial bloat (but that subsides). lowest bf% ive been is 8% and i still had belly fat and love handles. genetics + years of prednisone (not continuous) = hard-to-rid belly/ love handle fat.
i "tried" to eat clean on cycle, but i was just set on putting on weight. now, a couple days after PCT, i feel great and havent lost weight. i also look leaner....meaning i probably dropped some water.
and yes, 500lb BB shugs are correct. i was getting 8 reps on cycle, i can only get 5-6 now. i have to say that it is my best lift.
as for prop/tren, i know the risk/benefits and all that jazz
10-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Hey Man i think u did great! Can't wait to see how your next cycle goes - I read nothing but good **** about Tren, lean gains, etc.
Good luck bro
10-27-2008, 05:56 PM
me too! im debating on what kind of diet i want to be on though. i hear lots that the tren helps burn some fat without even being on a reduced calorie diet. i have stuborn and i mean STUBORN lower ab and oblique fat from years of corticosteroid use that im hoping to get rid of somewhat.
we'll see in about 2 months...
10-27-2008, 07:47 PM
10-27-2008, 08:00 PM
10-30-2008, 12:37 PM
Not to be the negative one here but I donít see a whole lot of difference. Yeah sure you put some weight on and thus youíre going to look different from that point alone. Did I miss how long youíve been on? I donít mean to bust your bubble here but I would have waited to cycle and worked on establishing an overall foundation first and then looked at the gear.
10-31-2008, 04:46 PM
10-31-2008, 05:23 PM
I can see the overall difference. A much stronger look, your neck increased, lats increased, arms not as much, i am sure your legs probably got a nice increase. Your traps are the only thing that look minute in comparison, which is weird with that kinda weight you were tossing.
Good run though.
I dont think its a huge issue if people run AAS before they max out naturally. I mean if you go above your genetic potential, it slowly drains back down anyways, but if you use steroids to speed up your run to your genetic potential, well its all gona stay and you can still make gains.
10-31-2008, 05:54 PM
11-02-2008, 06:19 PM
i hear you about the stubborn fat - suks - altho I must say it doesn't show up in your pics. I am on a bulk now and i have some belly roll and love handles that just get bigger when i gain weight. I gained about 25lbs in 2 months so hoping that only 25% or less is fat - if so it's all around my waist! Makes liposuction look attractive! hahahaha Anyways looks like you are in a great place going forward for more lean gains.
11-02-2008, 06:46 PM
definately running test with the tren
i have looked into liposuction actually. theres a procedure called "liposculpture" were ur completely awake and they use local anaesthesia and they stick a tiny tube thing under ur skin and it scrapes away fat and sucks it out. its pretty sweet. but theres so many different diets i will try before i ever go that route
11-02-2008, 07:47 PM
^^^^ Okay - see if you can get a 2 for one deal on the lipo- I'm in! hahahaha You ever tried the CKD diet - it's like Atkins on steriods. it's really rigorous but really works on fat burning.
01-29-2009, 08:58 PM
03-09-2009, 08:15 PM
04-07-2009, 01:21 PM
04-08-2009, 08:43 AM
04-09-2009, 04:26 PM
01-30-2011, 08:42 AM
I wish everyone was like you...put up before and after cycle pics....BTW good results man lookin thicker n a bit leaner too
02-01-2011, 11:49 AM
arms got bigger, thats your strong point, lat width looks better too. Work on middle back, legs. not knocking you but 8 pounds is a little low considering people do that on hdrol, epi in shorter periods of time, but you look leaner and most who gain on hdrol dont look leaner so im a little torn. Next cycle train weak points much more than strong points, you can and will have big arms year round.
02-01-2011, 11:55 AM
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