Test/dbol Cycle (Before/After pics)

[AUTO]

good job, now all you have to do is think about the next cycle.. what did you have in mind ?

[nosnmiveins]

good job, now all you have to do is think about the next cycle.. what did you have in mind ?

already planned


Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 75mg EOD
HCG 500iu every 5 days

PCT: Clomid 70/35/35/35

[AUTO]

already planned


Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 75mg EOD
HCG 500iu every 5 days

PCT: Clomid 70/35/35/35

also .5mgs of arimidex ed . thats a solid cycle.

[king1033]

already planned


Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 75mg EOD
HCG 500iu every 5 days

PCT: Clomid 70/35/35/35

make sure to have cabergoline on hand for prolactin control tren can cause gyno.
sounds like a good cycle how many weeks are you running the tren and prop, i just finished up some tren a couple weeks back great stuff! if this is your first time running tren id reccomend running 50mg eod see how your body feels. goodluck

[nosnmiveins]

make sure to have cabergoline on hand for prolactin control tren can cause gyno.
sounds like a good cycle how many weeks are you running the tren and prop, i just finished up some tren a couple weeks back great stuff! if this is your first time running tren id reccomend running 50mg eod see how your body feels. goodluck

yes i forgot to mention that i will have caber. probably run it .5mg 2x a week.

this will be an 8 week cycle, i havent decided if i want to run the tren the whole time or just 6 weks

[nosnmiveins]

also .5mgs of arimidex ed . thats a solid cycle.

i have adex but i didnt run into gyno problems after i stopped taking it 4 weeks into my first 12 week cycle so i prob wont need it. just some caber

[AUTO]

i have adex but i didnt run into gyno problems after i stopped taking it 4 weeks into my first 12 week cycle so i prob wont need it. just some caber

keep it on hand

[nosnmiveins]

keep it on hand

deff will, i still have probably 20ml 1mg/ml left

[MentalTwitch]

Im with King. I dont see much improvement...Ido see it though. I just dont see any shape difference or anything drastic.
I also think if you wanted lean gains, Dbol was a poor idea. You gained so much cause wether you think youre "prone" to bloating or not it happened. Bloating is gettina fat belly and puffy, sometimes its referenced as in the mucles, ie holding more water/glycogen.

Also, it was a bit premature to us AAS in my mind. You should have gotten back to where you were pre-surgery or realy focused on your diet for awhile. Im 204 at 10%~ and i only used Mdrol last year and havoc recently. BUT i was at 200lb pre-havoc and all my gains are still here and i had 0 increase in BF.

Soemtimes its not about the weight buthow you gain the weight.

goodluck in th future.

an PS- 500lb shrugs? I rack dead 500~ i couldnt imagine shruging it...

[MentalTwitch]

Also,prop and tren? Do you realize that those are prolly 2 of the more painful compounds to pin for whatever reason? Be veyr careful so you dont get an infection with the Tren and keep an eye on health for the tren flu, mouth abcess etc...
Winny the same if you ever decide to pin that, hurts.

[nosnmiveins]

Im with King. I dont see much improvement...Ido see it though. I just dont see any shape difference or anything drastic.
I also think if you wanted lean gains, Dbol was a poor idea. You gained so much cause wether you think youre "prone" to bloating or not it happened. Bloating is gettina fat belly and puffy, sometimes its referenced as in the mucles, ie holding more water/glycogen.

Also, it was a bit premature to us AAS in my mind. You should have gotten back to where you were pre-surgery or realy focused on your diet for awhile. Im 204 at 10%~ and i only used Mdrol last year and havoc recently. BUT i was at 200lb pre-havoc and all my gains are still here and i had 0 increase in BF.

Soemtimes its not about the weight buthow you gain the weight.

goodluck in th future.

an PS- 500lb shrugs? I rack dead 500~ i couldnt imagine shruging it...

i agree, i definitely wasnt at a weight i wanted to be at before i started. but i had the knowledge and my mind was set.

i really think that years of treatment with cortico-steroids (prednisone...fuking evil drug) caused me to retain fat/bloat in my midsection and love handles....its notorious for that and also facial bloat (but that subsides). lowest bf% ive been is 8% and i still had belly fat and love handles. genetics + years of prednisone (not continuous) = hard-to-rid belly/ love handle fat.

i "tried" to eat clean on cycle, but i was just set on putting on weight. now, a couple days after PCT, i feel great and havent lost weight. i also look leaner....meaning i probably dropped some water.

and yes, 500lb BB shugs are correct. i was getting 8 reps on cycle, i can only get 5-6 now. i have to say that it is my best lift.

as for prop/tren, i know the risk/benefits and all that jazz

[leanbody]

Hey Man i think u did great! Can't wait to see how your next cycle goes - I read nothing but good **** about Tren, lean gains, etc.

Good luck bro

[nosnmiveins]

Hey Man i think u did great! Can't wait to see how your next cycle goes - I read nothing but good **** about Tren, lean gains, etc.

Good luck bro

me too! im debating on what kind of diet i want to be on though. i hear lots that the tren helps burn some fat without even being on a reduced calorie diet. i have stuborn and i mean STUBORN lower ab and oblique fat from years of corticosteroid use that im hoping to get rid of somewhat.

we'll see in about 2 months...

[rob561]

great progress, i can def tell you added some lbs

[nosnmiveins]

great progress, i can def tell you added some lbs

thanks bro. muscle memory is a blessing. i was on a clean yet eat-everything-in-site diet

[v1hyp]

Not to be the negative one here but I don’t see a whole lot of difference. Yeah sure you put some weight on and thus you’re going to look different from that point alone. Did I miss how long you’ve been on? I don’t mean to bust your bubble here but I would have waited to cycle and worked on establishing an overall foundation first and then looked at the gear.

[nosnmiveins]

Not to be the negative one here but I don’t see a whole lot of difference. Yeah sure you put some weight on and thus you’re going to look different from that point alone. Did I miss how long you’ve been on? I don’t mean to bust your bubble here but I would have waited to cycle and worked on establishing an overall foundation first and then looked at the gear.

u need to read this whole thread. i have explained everything. i gained 25lbs....the reason i may not look like i gained 25lbs is because i actually workout my legs unlike a lot of ppl...so not just my upper body got bigger. cycle was 12 weeks

but criticism is welcome

[Zero V]

I can see the overall difference. A much stronger look, your neck increased, lats increased, arms not as much, i am sure your legs probably got a nice increase. Your traps are the only thing that look minute in comparison, which is weird with that kinda weight you were tossing.

Good run though.

I dont think its a huge issue if people run AAS before they max out naturally. I mean if you go above your genetic potential, it slowly drains back down anyways, but if you use steroids to speed up your run to your genetic potential, well its all gona stay and you can still make gains.

[v1hyp]

Hey Bro, what I say or said is just IMO. If your happy with the results, then thats all that really matters! I'm sure you could find fault with something I'm doing or the way I look.

u need to read this whole thread. i have explained everything. i gained 25lbs....the reason i may not look like i gained 25lbs is because i actually workout my legs unlike a lot of ppl...so not just my upper body got bigger. cycle was 12 weeks

but criticism is welcome

[leanbody]

me too! im debating on what kind of diet i want to be on though. i hear lots that the tren helps burn some fat without even being on a reduced calorie diet. i have stuborn and i mean STUBORN lower ab and oblique fat from years of corticosteroid use that im hoping to get rid of somewhat.

we'll see in about 2 months...

U think u might go with the tren? maybe stack it with test? Hmmmm

i hear you about the stubborn fat - suks - altho I must say it doesn't show up in your pics. I am on a bulk now and i have some belly roll and love handles that just get bigger when i gain weight. I gained about 25lbs in 2 months so hoping that only 25% or less is fat - if so it's all around my waist! Makes liposuction look attractive! hahahaha Anyways looks like you are in a great place going forward for more lean gains.

props bro!