What type of innovative product do you want to see from PES?

[Sik]

Preworkout?
It is so many choices on the market and really don't see how much innovative it can be...

Insulin mimetic/glucose disposal agent?
I still prefer this as a top choice. I know Anabeta is doing this, with a lot of other things. But a "straight" one will be good to see. (c3G )

Straight testosterone booster?
Anabeta si partially there.
Erase is partially there.
A straight powerfull androgenic booster?
means anabeta (anabolic) + anti-estrogen and anti cortisol + more test (androgenic) ?? hum, are you gonna do Tren LOL

HGH booster?

Would be interesting too to see one here, that can act similar to GHRP.

I think the front is already covered sadly by you...

Erase - potent anti-E + anti-cortisol+ test booster
Anabeta - power anabolic + GDA effects (the anabolic term will already include a higher capacity to store glycogen)

[Docmattic]

Preworkout?
Straight testosterone booster?
Anabeta si partially there.
Erase is partially there.
A straight powerfull androgenic booster?
means anabeta (anabolic) + anti-estrogen and anti cortisol + more test (androgenic) ?? hum, are you gonna do Tren LOL

thats why i think anabeta would be awsome stacked with natadrol...

I might make it my summer cut.


To answer the original question,
I think an innovative joint formula would be great to keep my joints feeling nice 24/7.

[cham]

protein powder, and a joint supplement(mandatory when using erase)

[nattydisaster]

Preworkout?
It is so many choices on the market and really don't see how much innovative it can be...

Insulin mimetic/glucose disposal agent?
I still prefer this as a top choice. I know Anabeta is doing this, with a lot of other things. But a "straight" one will be good to see. (c3G )

Straight testosterone booster?
Anabeta si partially there.
Erase is partially there.
A straight powerfull androgenic booster?
means anabeta (anabolic) + anti-estrogen and anti cortisol + more test (androgenic) ?? hum, are you gonna do Tren LOL

HGH booster?

Would be interesting too to see one here, that can act similar to GHRP.

I think the front is already covered sadly by you...

Erase - potent anti-E + anti-cortisol+ test booster
Anabeta - power anabolic + GDA effects (the anabolic term will already include a higher capacity to store glycogen)

Great points...way to lay it out

[seccsi]

I'm probably going to want whatever you come up with so hurry up and pick something so I can buy it

[JudgementDay]

1. Something for Joints(must contain Cissus)
2. HGH product
3. pre-workout

^ I know PES would have non prop blends so all these products would be awesome

[Thunder1]

For me .

Test booster
Gh booster

These to go along w/ anabeta & erase of course.

Us older people don't like to grow old. It gets depressing.

[monstermash]

Comprehensive Joint support and cortisol control in one product, dosed right.

I would like to see this too.

...or maybe you can find herbal Clen? haha

Mila's idea of

Legal test and HGH would be nice too

[mattrag]

I would like to see this too.

...or maybe you can find herbal Clen? haha

Mila's idea of

Legal test and HGH would be nice too

Yea I am liking this lol.

[monstermash]

Would be interesting too to see one here, that can act similar to GHRP.

This... if its possible.

[monstermash]

On second thought by you asking us, it makes me think you don't have anything too special to bring to the table otherwise you would've just released it on your own.... Oh yeah, that's a challenge

[DAdams91982]

On second thought by you asking us, it makes me think you don't have anything too special to bring to the table otherwise you would've just released it on your own.... Oh yeah, that's a challenge

Whatever helps you sleep at night!

You don't have to worry, Natty is always taking random crap to gain effectiveness and move to the next phase. Problem is... there is alot of CRAP out there!

[monstermash]

Whatever helps you sleep at night!

You don't have to worry, Natty is always taking random crap to gain effectiveness and move to the next phase. Problem is... there is alot of CRAP out there!

just bustin' chops

I have yet to try Anabeta but I liked At-2 so I'm sincerely curious to see what you guys have up your sleeves.


Do you think a natty HGH supp could ever compare to GHRP?

[DAdams91982]

just bustin' chops

I have yet to try Anabeta but I liked At-2 so I'm sincerely curious to see what you guys have up your sleeves.


Do you think a natty HGH supp could ever compare to GHRP?

Oh I know.. I was just bustin back.

The short answer is probably not. Since not only is GHRP a sythesized peptide to directly stimulate GH release via the ghrelin pathway, but it also an injectable by passing degradation via the digestive tract. I know GHRP-2 is supposedly able to be taken orally, but I personally haven't heard too many testimonials that it has been favorable.

Does mother earth have anything that is powerful? Most definitely, just not sure she offers anything that directly stimulates GH like GHRP does.

[Docmattic]

..or maybe you can find herbal Clen? haha

have a read on Curcumin , which is an extract from tumeric.

Its interesting.
http://www.ergo-log.com/curcumin.html

Maybee if its extracted right that could work.

[SynergyIre]

I posted something like this on facebook, but a few more thoughts. Feels like a bit of a weird mix of 'what innovation do you want? But fit it into this set of molds that exist'.

Anyways, I guess right now your product line is quite well setup for cutting, would love something that could be stacked with anabeta more focused towards muscle growth. I know you mentioned about not being as useful to stack a test booster with it, so curious on your perspective on this, rather then just asking for a test booster.

In terms of a pre workout, would love to see something come out in terms of stims that are actually in nature and thus, not on the marked for death list. Maybe mixed with something that counteracts addrenal fatigue like Schizandrol A in Jack3d, thus healthier longterm. Maybe something like Sustamine for hydration instead of the same old electolytes. Hell, I'd love to see a creatine free pre, seems everyone put it in just cause they can.

[bdcc]

Thanks for the suggestions so far everyone, it is greatly appreciated.

I know Natty has a lot up his sleeve already. He appears to be constantly testing like some kind of nutty professor. We like to know what people want so we can satisfy your requirements and dedicate more time there. This is not a "we need to find a test booster quickly because some people have asked us" type scenario.

[monstermash]

have a read on Curcumin , which is an extract from tumeric.

Its interesting.
http://www.ergo-log.com/curcumin.html

Maybee if its extracted right that could work.

Nice! Thanks for bringing that up.

Maybe if a proper extract is obtainable you can add it to some well dosed Fucoxanthin and a cort control supp of your choosing and/or a GDA for a completely stim-free burner of sorts. IDK just brainstorming

[funkd0c]

have a read on Curcumin , which is an extract from tumeric.
Maybee if its extracted right that could work.

Doesn't tumeric/curcumin help lower inflammation? I have taken both along with my usual joint supps(msm, cissus, high dosed fish oil) and noticed a difference in pain relief. I could be mistaken, but this is what an informed colleague of mine suggested i use to ease my tendinitis.

WE NEED AN END ALL, BE ALL JOINT SUPPLEMENT! And PES is definitely the company I think that can bring it to us.

[nattydisaster]

Cissus with PA's joint force was a crazy good combo for me

As far as curcumin goes, the data looks good but for some reason it does not seem to translate to the real world in the slight testing we have done with it at the doses we went up to. We could possibly look into other extractions from the material though. Have not spent much time with it as we have something on the back burner we are currently making headway on