- 02-03-2011, 11:19 AM
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02-03-2011, 04:01 PM
Could I run shift along with my furuza-a/11 oxo stack since it is stim free or should I save it for PCT? Thanks
02-03-2011, 04:04 PM
02-04-2011, 11:26 AM
So Shift is AT2 without the stim effects? any other differences?
I don't really use stims because Im a high energy person, but AT2 has had so many great reviews i wanted to try it.
02-04-2011, 11:31 AM
02-04-2011, 11:41 AM
what about the lack of Rauwolscine HCl, will it work the same without it?
to my understanding Methyl-Synephrine is the Stim.
02-04-2011, 12:03 PM
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02-04-2011, 05:19 PM
02-09-2011, 03:39 PM
SHIFT PCT?? SIDES??
After taking shift how long does it take for your thyroid levels to return to normal? Is there anything one should have on hand before taking shift, and can shift cause any short or long term side affects?
02-13-2011, 03:25 PM
I actually have a few caps of Trimax left. I have rationed due to it being out of production.
Unfortunately, I missed the killer introductory price at NP on Shift.
I'm torqued off and won't purchase it now out of spite, but...if it works anything like the old Trimax, and if a deal comes along to bring the price back into the teens....I'll be all over it like a fly on sh!t.
02-23-2011, 12:30 PM
02-24-2011, 03:08 PM
I took my first dose today. I'm extremely tired. At this point I don't know whether its the shift or no though because I didn't get very good sleep last night.
02-24-2011, 09:39 PM
02-24-2011, 09:44 PM
It subsided Rosie. I just took my last dose and I feel fine. It was just the normal groggy felling I have after a poor nights sleep. Hopefully this product works well. Tomorrow I take it before I work out. I'll see how my workout feels. Not sure how long it takes to kick in or it works right away though. Hopefully it stays the same because I don't need to "feel" anything for it to work. In fact I would rather feel nothing at all. Thats what I'm after in a fat loss supplement and thats why I didn't choose a product with stimulants. Oh as far as your questions, I only took the recommended 2 in the morning and 1 6-8 hours later. For the second question yes I probably felt about the same as on a day I normally don't get good sleep. So far so good.
02-24-2011, 09:52 PM
02-25-2011, 09:24 PM
Rosie, I took 2 pre-workout today. Didn't have such a great workout today and I sweat a lot more than normal. Strength loss on some exercises but stayed the same on others. Still I'll take the hit on strength if its in exchange for some much needed fat loss. Plus my legs are killing me and I usually don't get any muscle soreness.
02-25-2011, 10:21 PM
Strength loss does NOT have to happen when you get fat loss - it might if you're being ridiculous with either your calorie or carbohydrate intake, or have not recovered from a previous training session.
02-25-2011, 10:27 PM
I just took it when I awoke and I train within 45 minutes after I wake up. I guess I could wait and take it later but its just more convenient for me that way.
02-25-2011, 10:29 PM
02-26-2011, 10:18 AM
I would think taking it post training would be a better option since your metabolism is already heightened from the workout.
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02-26-2011, 09:58 PM
02-28-2011, 01:11 PM
02-28-2011, 01:42 PM
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02-28-2011, 03:11 PM
03-18-2011, 03:45 AM
I am so curious to try shift since I have a nonworking/poorly working thyroid. I'm curious if it would even do anything.
Natty, weren't the original studies on 3,3 done on hypothyroid rats? or is my brain making stuff up.
I wish I was a rat sometimes.
03-18-2011, 02:09 PM
One study was done on hypothyroid rats, one was not
Have you considered seeking a physician for your thyroid issue? Most thyroid problems are covered by insurance, and the medications doctors provide change peoples lives around
03-18-2011, 02:16 PM
Oh dude, I've been on meds for 10yrs and see my doc every 6 months, I am well versed with my thyroid problem, and my numbers are stable. I am just a natural endomorph and hold onto fat like a bitch.
I am losing slowly doing a tried and true clean diet + cardio, just looking at shift makes me so curious what effects it would have to a hypothyroid already on meds. Would it bump my half-dead thyroid a bit? Would it do nothing at all?
This is more like inner-thoughts just being brought out for discussion.
Before being treated, my hypo symptoms were so terrible, the meds def fixed my life, but doesn't change the fact my body loves to hold onto fat. Low carbing + working out is slowly getting my athlete body back.
You know you're really hypo when your memory gets so bad you forget the name of a roomate you've had for 2yrs. That's when I knew something was REALLY wrong.
03-18-2011, 02:29 PM
03-18-2011, 02:33 PM
I know, I understand how my meds work, and I understand how Shift works.
That known, it makes me very curious to see what would happen.
I'm not going to, but the curious in me makes me wonder of the small ammt of hormone my near dead thyroid is making, if I could stimulate it to pump a lil more.
Probably not. Haha
Wish I could clone me and use it as a guinea pig.
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