ATP Tabs?

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Spill the beans.... I haven't seen a whole lot of positive feedback on ATP as a supplement. How is this different from the rest?
 
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We will spills the beans shortly..but the product is based around sublingual delivery. The major issue with straight ATP was the qualty of the raw material you were receiving and how people were marketing it..ie powders and pills.

We have been playing with this item for about 4 months now..and no one who trains in our office will workout with out it. Originally i was against rollign it out because it is such a basic product that any company could come in and knock us off but our employees were so amped about it and what it did we decided to drop it and not worry about the knock off artists. I think people will really really like this item.

thanks,

Jeremy
 
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alright what? what is atp? is this simply adrenosine triphosphate?
 
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yea, considered adding some things to it? Anyway, what are the people in your office experiencing? I assume increased reps and endurance...

How does this affect creatine supplementation? In terms of energy production is it more of a synergism with creatine or a replacement?
 
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We will spills the beans shortly..but the product is based around sublingual delivery. The major issue with straight ATP was the qualty of the raw material you were receiving and how people were marketing it..ie powders and pills.

We have been playing with this item for about 4 months now..and no one who trains in our office will workout with out it. Originally i was against rollign it out because it is such a basic product that any company could come in and knock us off but our employees were so amped about it and what it did we decided to drop it and not worry about the knock off artists. I think people will really really like this item.

thanks,

Jeremy
Been wondering about this for a while in regards to the ATP and supplementation...Definately interesting!

Would you guys be awesome enough to maybe not use any artificial sweeteners like sucralose, aspartame and acusulfame-k and go an extra step to use stevia? or even Stevia with another natural substance like Xylitol. Im sure many people would be grateful as it would show you guys care for your customers well-being. Many thanks :)
 
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Ok the product is available at NP. Now spill the beans!
 
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Unless I'm mistaken, it's a rebranded version of 5'-Triphosphate Disodium "Peak ATP" that typically costs $0.25 for 125 mg from Swansons.

Hopefully, I'm wrong and Palo Alto has done something to justify the cost.

Google "Peak ATP" for reviews.
 

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There is no mention of "Peak ATP" on the label suggesting it was licensed. This looks like it is a rip off of the PATENTED Peak ATP. So I think you Palo Alto guys have some explaining to do because if this is the case, you all are in some deep ****.
 

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Is this the same company that had a viagra analogue in their aspire products?
 

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I am definitely interested in this product, and for $12 at nutra am going to try in combo with creatine. The main reason for my interest is I trust Andrew732's reviews and they sound pretty good. With that being said, atp, even with sublingual delivery has been around for a while, smaller companies though, but atp never really took off. It could be overlooked, as I said smaller company's offered sublingual atp, not really ones that your avg lifter would use though, so that could be why it is overlooked in our community. I do agree on the drop in price though, at $1 per pill, honestly ridiculous, at closer to .50 per pill, much better, and it should stay that price.
 
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I don't think anyone would misbrand a patened product without license and quadruple the price. Something is missing. It must be a different formula.
 
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Someone is either on vacation or consulting the legal department.
 

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Someone is either on vacation or consulting the legal department.
If you have an issue with the company, quit coming to this thread and blasting it. Just PM one of the reps....

I don't understand your concept?
 

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If you have an issue with the company, quit coming to this thread and blasting it. Just PM one of the reps....

I don't understand your concept?

Is it so difficult to recognize that this product quite possibly is infringing on a well established patent? I think the company reps should have an obligation to inform the consumer exactly what the hell is in their product.
 
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I'm not blasting Palo Alto Labs. I'd just like to know if this is Peak ATP, as my chemistry is too shaby to make that determination myself. I've been interested in Peak ATP. If this product is superior, I'd like to try it.

There is a difference between having "an issue" and seeking clarity on the formulation of a product. I thought that was a prime purpose of this forum.

If you have an issue with the company, quit coming to this thread and blasting it. Just PM one of the reps....

I don't understand your concept?
 
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peak atp= adenosine 5'-triphosphate.

ATP tabs= Disodium salt (so it says on the ingredients in nutra)

ATP is typically dosed 100-125mg, ATP tabs are dosed at 125 mg.


Name Adenosine 5'-triphosphate disodium salt
Synonyms ATP disodium salt



if that helps at all to anyone....
 

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peak atp= adenosine 5'-triphosphate.

ATP tabs= Disodium salt (so it says on the ingredients in nutra)

ATP is typically dosed 100-125mg, ATP tabs are dosed at 125 mg.


Name Adenosine 5'-triphosphate disodium salt
Synonyms ATP disodium salt



if that helps at all to anyone....

Wrong.

Peak ATP is also the di-na salt. Just check out peakatp[.com]
 

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Wrong.

Peak ATP is also the di-na salt. Just check out peakatp[.com]
Papi I think what he is saying is that they are both the di-na salt but that the Peak ATP product just uses different nomenclature.

I agree I love Palo products....and I'm not knocking them at all.....I just want to know if there is something unique about this product and what the science behind it is?

Mr.50
 
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Wrong.

Peak ATP is also the di-na salt. Just check out peakatp[.com]
Not sure how it is wrong since they are the same dang thing. Look at synonyms. Read again and read the statement below....

Papi I think what he is saying is that they are both the di-na salt but that the Peak ATP product just uses different nomenclature.
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Correct, they are just synonyms.

My point was from the label, they appear to be the same thing. I will be waiting on Palo alto to speak.
 

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Not sure how it is wrong since they are the same dang thing. Look at synonyms. Read again and read the statement below....



Correct, they are just synonyms.

My point was from the label, they appear to be the same thing. I will be waiting on Palo alto to speak.

If that's what you meant then cool, but your post was extremely ambiguous. Anyway, this PAL product seems to be a nasty infringement on the Peak ATP patent, and the company reps have nothing to say. Who knows what is actually even in this product.
 
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If that's what you meant then cool, but your post was extremely ambiguous. Anyway, this PAL product seems to be a nasty infringement on the Peak ATP patent, and the company reps have nothing to say. Who knows what is actually even in this product.
I listed ATP tab ingredients, Peak ATP ingredients, gave usual ATP/disodium dosage, then gave synonyms... seems pretty basic to me.

Regardless I agree, I am wanting more info.
 
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Hey fellas, sorry for the delayed response. ATP Tabs is not PEAK ATP. I am going to have one of the powers that be post in here to elaborate on the difference. Thanks for your patience.
 
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Been using them this week... Still dialing in how they are working exactly.
Initial thoughts on them? Curious how these would stack with say Anadraulic Pump. I am taking a break from Creatine and most all supps less pre-workout but ATP tabs looks intriguing.
 
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Initial thoughts on them? Curious how these would stack with say Anadraulic Pump. I am taking a break from Creatine and most all supps less pre-workout but ATP tabs looks intriguing.
Hard to really say..... going to be watching see how next week goes and looking fir the claims on the box. I will give a little review. I think them may be allowing me to push a little more especially in my circuit workout today.
 
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Im a tester and ill have my log up ASAP when i get them. Will start the day of as long as its a workout day.
 
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If that's what you meant then cool, but your post was extremely ambiguous. Anyway, this PAL product seems to be a nasty infringement on the Peak ATP patent, and the company reps have nothing to say. Who knows what is actually even in this product.
Man some one's harboring some animosity towards PA labs, just buy Peak ATP and call it a day if you have a problem PM one of the reps so we don't have to hear you whine all day.
 

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Man some one's harboring some animosity towards PA labs, just buy Peak ATP and call it a day if you have a problem PM one of the reps so we don't have to hear you whine all day.
LOL, I'd definitely consider buying this product if I actually knew what was in it. And why would the reps have a problem publicly stating what is in the product if it is no big deal? One post could have ended this thread on page one. So don't worry ignorant little meat head, you just keep listening to the good bros and I'll do my own thing.
 

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in for the difference between this and peak atp. I do like a nice basic stand alone product and do have some myself and am currently using. Added to creatine mono and cbol, less than a week in, do notice nice pumps in gym (could be cbol) and some strength and endurance (all things should note from creatine). I have a feeling this product will end up being a nice add-on to creatines and pre wo's as long as price stays low. Still early though, and it is not like a stim, so not something that will "feel", more so see in progress. My initial thought is that may help creatine effects kick in a little quicker.
 

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would like to add, pal please do not add stims or any other junk to these so short sighted customers can get a buzz and think this is doing something. It is not a stim and shouldnt have a stim feel, its not a hormone and wont give that type of feeling either. This is going to "feel" much like a creatine and so far so good for me
 
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LOL, I'd definitely consider buying this product if I actually knew what was in it. And why would the reps have a problem publicly stating what is in the product if it is no big deal? One post could have ended this thread on page one. So don't worry ignorant little meat head, you just keep listening to the good bros and I'll do my own thing.
I'm not going to take the initiative to return fire, if you have a problem with PA labs good to go...Try out the ATP tabs and then compare it to Peak ATP.
 

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im really curious about this product but after reading the research article that was posted i dont think this does anything

anyone have any solid research articles for this product
 
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I'm really getting interested and curious about this product. Any update
on how this product works now?
 
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I notice a definite effect, less of a making me stronger and more of ensuring that I'm as strong as I can be if that makes sense. In other words it gives me more consistently good days in the gym when I take it. My only small issue is that it feels like to me that it takes forever for the tablet to dissolve under my tongue.
 
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I notice a definite effect, less of a making me stronger and more of ensuring that I'm as strong as I can be if that makes sense. In other words it gives me more consistently good days in the gym when I take it. My only small issue is that it feels like to me that it takes forever for the tablet to dissolve under my tongue.
You dont HAVE to put it under your tongue. check the box, i thought i did to but said WTF when i saw the size of the tablet.
Im loggin it now. Havent updated it at all because i havent been taking it much, i want to see what they said here about it.
I didn't notice anything thus far though. i only dose 3 times a week(lift days)
 

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I took one the other day pre workout and it may have been placebo but I just felt like I had a little bit more on reserve to crank out that last rep; the feeling to me felt like non stimulant energy.
 
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Hmmm. I was looking at this today over at Nutraplanet. No reviews at all there and not much information here. Looks like I'll be removing these from my cart. Palo Alto hasn't responded since Jan....
 

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