ECA stack question
- 08-22-2008, 10:27 PM
- 08-24-2008, 09:55 PM
umm yah i got question too on ECa it contains caffaine? would it be resonable to stack it with... cortasol blocker?? any thoughts?
- 08-25-2008, 12:31 AM
caffiene would be the C in ECAStrong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe
08-25-2008, 08:35 AM
08-25-2008, 08:37 AM
08-25-2008, 09:36 AM
yeah I bought a generic brand allergy medicine called suphedrine and it says pseudoephidrine free, but i recently bought another one with pseudoephidrine so its all good
08-25-2008, 09:37 AM
Pseudoephedrine isn't as good as as ephedrine itself. I'd dose it at 60mg with 200mg caffeine.
08-25-2008, 09:42 AM
Yeah I'm going to get some ephedrine soon, but I'm also taking asprin every other day cause I heard its rough on the stomach.
08-25-2008, 11:29 PM
Why don't you just buy ephedrine in bottles of 50? They're legal at 8mg as a "cold" medicine.
Take 3 (24mg) + 200+mg caffeine + 325mg ASA. These were the old formulas for things liked Ripped Fuel and the original Hydroxycut and Xenedrine.
It's still one of the best things out there. If you're crazy, stack with salbutamol (asthma pill/ inhaler.) You'll literally melt while you walk around the gym after even a brief warmup.
I wouldn't advise stacking ECA w/ salbutamol though as it might be too much for some people, basically a poor man's clenbuterol. Remember to lug around a water jug...you're gonna need it.
08-25-2008, 11:35 PM
08-25-2008, 11:50 PM
damn that inhaler thing sounds dangerous flobot i'll just stick to the ECA stack you listed above, but that asprin dose was a bit high for me I'll just lower that a bit thanks man for the advice
08-25-2008, 11:57 PM
08-26-2008, 11:40 AM
08-26-2008, 11:36 PM
08-27-2008, 01:03 AM
08-27-2008, 08:03 AM
08-27-2008, 09:48 PM
08-27-2008, 11:50 PM
I've heard some interesting things about ECY stacks (yohimbine instead of aspirin)
some people loved it.
Ephedrine is relatively easy to get, providing you know where to get it, it IS legal, but its regulated (meaning you cant order 100000 boxes of it-for fear of creating amphetamine or methamphetamine)
I think 3.5 grams is the limit on how much you can possess.
08-28-2008, 03:11 PM
i have asia black 25 ephedra(nevadensis) is that any good? i get mad rush and pumps
plus this is the werid thing...
ok i ran it 1 pill per workout last year for 4 months.
but like my whole body repaird itself my chest problems went away all my acne on back and body was gone 2 warts were gone and all sorts of other stuff it was werid.
but back to question
1. is this one good
2. it has no asparin but it has white willow bark (is that pretty much the same?)
08-28-2008, 05:30 PM
08-28-2008, 07:24 PM
Yea get the baby asprin. They are 82mg's and dissolve very easy. There is also the entric coated ones if asprin tears up your stomach.
Gotta remember your taking it 2-3 times a day, and aspirin is a blood thinner. At 325mg's that can cause some real thinning and bad bruising, not to mention possible bleeding issues.
08-28-2008, 07:32 PM
08-28-2008, 07:37 PM
08-28-2008, 10:34 PM
08-29-2008, 12:39 AM
08-31-2008, 04:11 PM
It is NOT a poor mans clenbuterol, because it is more expensive from what i've seen! It also has a shorter half life (5-6hrs for albuterol vs. 36 hours for clenbuterol), so you don't experience all the negative side effects of clenbuterol as LONG with albuterol. Some people enjoy sleeping ya know
09-07-2008, 11:54 PM
09-10-2008, 06:11 PM
09-10-2008, 07:03 PM
~100mcg for 1 inhalation (.1g)
~4000mcg for 1mL oral dosing typically (4g)
Most people typically dose 24g/day spaced out, which turns into 24,000mcg, or 240 metered inhalation dosages. But the dosing/pathways the drug works are different from inhaled vs. an orally ingested liquid.
Albuterol does help open up your lungs. Do 3-5 puffs (at ~100mcg each dose) from your inhaler about 20 minutes before you work out, you'll notice a difference.
09-10-2008, 07:24 PM
11-24-2008, 04:40 PM
you can buy lab albuterol , its a liquid form and it will help decrease body fat but usually only when ur bodyfat is already low. it will also help with endurance and lipid profile. usually i like to keep it around 12mgs daily, more give muscle cramps
11-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Synephrine (from bitter orange) can be used as a milder substitute for ephedrine, although it is definitely not as stimulating or effective for fat loss.
12-02-2008, 12:56 PM
12-02-2008, 05:32 PM
12-02-2008, 08:06 PM
12-02-2008, 09:51 PM
Also think about adding a GLA source to your stack (evening primrose or borage oil) it prolongs the thermogenic and energetic effects of the ECA so there are not such sharp dropoffs in energy.
as for the aspirin... i have heard it serves as a moderate uncoupler. It robs energy form the body in the form of heat so yes it also increases and prolongs the thermogenic effect.
12-02-2008, 10:04 PM
12-02-2008, 10:12 PM
yea man. the GLA fact is from ANABOLICS
the aspirin is a super mild uncoupler but an uncoupler none the less
12-03-2008, 09:18 PM
I had a hunch about prolonging the effect. But seriously fellas, 25 or 50mg has me wired for a good 8-12 hours. I'd never sleep if I tried to prolong the effect. I'm an admittedly very stim sensitive but absolutely love my ephedrine.
IMO there is NOTHING that I've tried on the market that comes close to the energy intensity, clean mental acuity, and thermogenic effect as good ol ephedrine.
FOG, I haven't been posting much. I read here frequently but tend to keep my opinions to myself lately.
12-03-2008, 09:21 PM
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