Does masterone supress you?

[power_house]

Hi folks,

Last year I did a nice course of test prop and anavar with nice results. This year I had added some masterone to the stack.
I'm doing 1.5ml of test, 1.5ml of mast every other day also 100mg of var every day.

This year though I feel really surprised despite the test in the cycle. Is this the masterone do u think? I was thinking maybe of dropping to 1ml and upping the test dosage or even dropping the mast altogether.

I have added some proviron the last 4 days and will run this for the rest of the cycle. I haven't noticed any difference with it yet.

What's everyone think? When I say suppressed I mean no sex drive, no erection and my nuts have shrunk.

Any advice? I'd be happy to drop the mast and add a compound my source is good and pretty much anything is to hand

 

[SuperPro]

First off how many mg per ml is your test and mast?

 

[power_house]

It's 100mg per ml. Iv done 12ml in the last 3 weeks. Speaking to a few people in the gym this evening and they all say masteron has shut them down in the past. I think it must be the mast as iv never been shut down before and this is the first time iv used it.

Iv already decided to stop it. Question is will I come back naturally or do i need to add anything. Can I run some clomid on cycle? Iv decided to up the my test dosage as well which should help along with the proviron.

Any other suggestions

 

[DetroitHammer]

It's 100mg per ml. Iv done 12ml in the last 3 weeks. Speaking to a few people in the gym this evening and they all say masteron has shut them down in the past. I think it must be the mast as iv never been shut down before and this is the first time iv used it.

Iv already decided to stop it. Question is will I come back naturally or do i need to add anything. Can I run some clomid on cycle? Iv decided to up the my test dosage as well which should help along with the proviron.

Any other suggestions

Of course it's going to stop your own natural production of test, but so what? Testosterone alone will shut you down. I assume you know that mast is something of an aromatase inhibitor? Since it's a DHT derivative, it should increase your libido, not kill it. If anything you have too much test. Mast has a greater affinity for the AR than test, so an even amount of each will not give you an even binding to the AR. But really, given what you are taking you shouldn't really have any ED issues. My suggestion would be at add some HCG and lower the test.

 

[power_house]

Yea I realise any cycle will shut my own test levels down that's why my pct is nailed on.
My issue is this cycle has hit me hard and the only difference between this and the others is the added mast. I don't think my test dose is excessive. It's 100mg/ml and I'm doing 4.5ml-450mg per week. I'm doing the same quantity of mast. I added the proviron this week thinking that would help. I was actually thinking of upping the test to 6ml a week and dropping the mast.
Do u think it could be estrogen related then? I have had very slight soreness in my nipples. I can add an Ai but I didn't think I needed to with the proviron in there.

HCG is an option and I'm happy to add that as well

 

[DetroitHammer]

My issue is this cycle has hit me hard and the only difference between this and the others is the added mast.

Well, as I said earlier, you are freeing up more test for aromatization when you add mast. It's not the mast, but the free test you create by adding something with slightly more affinity for the AR than test. Maybe your E2 is high, who knows unless you get tested. Probably 90% of all ED is caused my mental dysfunction. There is a chance you are over-thinking it and causing your ED. But without a blood test, you're just wild-aas guessing.

 

[SuperPro]

Well, as I said earlier, you are freeing up more test for aromatization when you add mast. It's not the mast, but the free test you create by adding something with slightly more affinity for the AR than test. Maybe your E2 is high, who knows unless you get tested. Probably 90% of all ED is caused my mental dysfunction. There is a chance you are over-thinking it and causing your ED. But without a blood test, you're just wild-aas guessing.

So should mast be ran with a relatively low amount of test like you would run tren? I was thinking of running a future cycle with 500mg test e and 300mg mast p per week but what you are saying makes me think maybe something like 250 or 375 test e with 400 mast p would be better.

BTW reason behind test e and not p is that I have some on hand I want to use.

 

[power_house]

I hear what your saying and I know people dont like to admit to the mental side of things but what makes me sceptical is that iv never had issues before either on or off cycle (iv done about 6 cycles all pretty basic with either test prop or test e and maybe winny or var). Now this cycle with mast has killed me in that department. Plus there is a clear visual difference in that my nuts have shrunk. That's clear and definitely not a mental issue.

I'm torn as to what to do. I may stick with things and give the proviron a few more days to kick in. And just lower my dosage for all 3 compounds (test prop, mast and var) or pull the mast and up the test and maybe throw in some HCG

 

[threeFs]

I will never cycle without masteron again. I love it!! Turns me into a porn star

 

[machorox123]

I hear what your saying and I know people dont like to admit to the mental side of things but what makes me sceptical is that iv never had issues before either on or off cycle (iv done about 6 cycles all pretty basic with either test prop or test e and maybe winny or var). Now this cycle with mast has killed me in that department. Plus there is a clear visual difference in that my nuts have shrunk. That's clear and definitely not a mental issue.

I'm torn as to what to do. I may stick with things and give the proviron a few more days to kick in. And just lower my dosage for all 3 compounds (test prop, mast and var) or pull the mast and up the test and maybe throw in some HCG

I dont think your understanding DH.. The masteron will bind to receptors more than test will.. So the excess testosterone turns into estrogen. High estrogen can kill sex drive.. The test isn't excessive on its own but with the added mast a lot of it is aromatizing. Are you even using an AI? Just lower your test to like 200mg and you'll be good

 

[Lukef2000]

For your own sake get a hormone panel done so you can combat what is causing you issues. We can sit here and speculate / educate but without knowing what's going on inside you were just spitballing.

 

[HondaV65]

Estrogen problems.

I think his Estrogen is too high ... he isn't using an aromatase inhibitor like Aromasin and he really needs to at least have it on hand if he's pinning Test Prop.

 

[xam2991]

Hi folks,

Last year I did a nice course of test prop and anavar with nice results. This year I had added some masterone to the stack.
I'm doing 1.5ml of test, 1.5ml of mast every other day also 100mg of var every day.

This year though I feel really surprised despite the test in the cycle. Is this the masterone do u think? I was thinking maybe of dropping to 1ml and upping the test dosage or even dropping the mast altogether.

I have added some proviron the last 4 days and will run this for the rest of the cycle. I haven't noticed any difference with it yet.

What's everyone think? When I say suppressed I mean no sex drive, no erection and my nuts have shrunk.

Any advice? I'd be happy to drop the mast and add a compound my source is good and pretty much anything is to hand

Wow are you joking? If these are questions you are still asking about, then you are in no shape or form ready for aas usage. Of course it will suppress you. It never ceases to amaze me at how many dumb people there are juicing. Before putting exogenous hormones into your body, it is very important that you are familiar with what they will do to you.

 

[threeFs]

Wow are you joking? If these are questions you are still asking about, then you are in no shape or form ready for aas usage. Of course it will suppress you. It never ceases to amaze me at how many dumb people there are juicing. Before putting exogenous hormones into your body, it is very important that you are familiar with what they will do to you.

Seems like alot of this going around now. Must be the season.

I was helping in another thread about havoc. I told him to read my log. His reply: there's a lot to read in your log. Can you give the main points?
Unreal

 

[Lukef2000]

Wow are you joking? If these are questions you are still asking about, then you are in no shape or form ready for aas usage. Of course it will suppress you. It never ceases to amaze me at how many dumb people there are juicing. Before putting exogenous hormones into your body, it is very important that you are familiar with what they will do to you.

Seems like alot of this going around now. Must be the season.

I was helping in another thread about havoc. I told him to read my log. His reply: there's a lot to read in your log. Can you give the main points?
Unreal

And here I was thinking it was just me noticing these things as of late.

 

[xam2991]

And here I was thinking it was just me noticing these things as of late.

Lol its not rocket science. You would think people would be more cautious since aas can seriously **** up your body. Its because of people like this that all the good stuff is pulled of the market as well(superdrol for example).

 

[Lukef2000]

Lol its not rocket science. You would think people would be more cautious since aas can seriously **** up your body. Its because of people like this that all the good stuff is pulled of the market as well(superdrol for example).

That's right the minority will always ruin it for the majority.

 

[xam2991]

That's right the minority will always ruin it for the majority.

Thankfully there are european companies that still sell it.

 

[Lukef2000]

Thankfully there are european companies that still sell it.

Lol I stocked up before the ban. Got more than enough to keep me busy for a long while

 

[classic27]

Hi folks,

Last year I did a nice course of test prop and anavar with nice results. This year I had added some masterone to the stack.
I'm doing 1.5ml of test, 1.5ml of mast every other day also 100mg of var every day.

This year though I feel really surprised despite the test in the cycle. Is this the masterone do u think? I was thinking maybe of dropping to 1ml and upping the test dosage or even dropping the mast altogether.

I have added some proviron the last 4 days and will run this for the rest of the cycle. I haven't noticed any difference with it yet.

What's everyone think? When I say suppressed I mean no sex drive, no erection and my nuts have shrunk.

Any advice? I'd be happy to drop the mast and add a compound my source is good and pretty much anything is to hand

Yes. All steroids do and will suppress you including masterone. Your sex drive and erections will be fine and will probably even increase. Your nuts will probably at least slightly shrink unless on hcg. I would stick with the proviron. Your sex drive will probably be great, it should harden you up, and I'm sure you will have an easy recovery.

 

[Slappy244]

lower the test, and bump up the mast. Maybe, 300mg test to 600mg mast.

I fantasize about a mast/var cycle. I was thinking more like 500mg test, 600mg mast, and 75-100 var.

delicious cycle bro, hope everything works out for ya'