ORAL ONLY CYCLE DBOL & WINNY
- 03-25-2013, 12:42 AM
Now as for your concern over androgens effects on lipids ..
We pretty much know AAS use decreases HDL (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/4033402/) but what is less clear is the why/how this happens (because of increased androgen levels, increased liver enzymes, decreased E2 or some sort of combo) and if methylated ones have a greater effect because of the strain placed on the liver.
We also dont know if this HDL reduction is actually indicative of an increased risk. Considering androgens increase the activity of HTGL(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4033402) and HTGL activity is protective (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7853704) So quite possibly despite the HDL particle reduction resulting from androgen use, the protective activity of some of the HDL fractions is still present.
and as for hepatotoxicity
Anabolic steroid-induced hepatotoxicity: is it overstated?"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
- 03-25-2013, 12:59 AM
Injectable steroids are absorbed directly into the blood stream without a first pass through the liver although, there are a few injectable C-17 alkylated steroids that will have a similar hepatic affect as oral ones but the majority of injectable steroids only undergo esterification in the liver.
Most orals will have an intrinsic anabolic value to them (are active steroids without need of conversion or before any conversion) and the percent that actually converts is pretty much unknown and can vary from product to product"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
- 03-25-2013, 05:08 PM
Btw, your math is wrong (also not an insult). 2 apples a day for 2 weeks is 28 apples. 3 apples a day for 3 weeks is 63 apples. I don't know where you got 60 from. Are you trying to say that you take 3 per day, for 20 days? Or, are you pointing out that three 20mg pills would be 60mg total? When you portray your self like this, it makes you look stupid.
If you sound like a idiot, you will get flamed. Sorry, this be the internetz.
I wish you the best of luck. I would agree that if you are afraid of needles, transdermals would be a good avenue to explore.AM sucks ass. find me on ASF or IMF.
03-28-2013, 11:09 AM
There is better oral cycles like tbol and anavar, or just tbol which we yield leaner dryer gains....
04-02-2013, 09:57 PM
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