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    A gram of testosterone
    60mg dianabol (first 4 weeks)
    And 500mg NPP a week
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    I was also coming off a steep cut. But I went from 212 to 255
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    Here is some more info from a guy named MARCUS from uk-muscle, ALL CREDIT GOES TO HIM as I did not write this. I highlighted the interesting stuff. Here is the link if you want more... http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-t...explained.html

    One of the best approaches Ive ever used to build muscle tissue is short burst cycling, before i go any further i want to state that short cycling can be implemented to what ever level you are, its not only for the advance Bodybuilder it can be for all stages, its just the amount of gear Mg is adjusted to suit the individual's level. The best part of this thread will be aimed at advanced bodybuilders because of the high dose used with burst cycling but no discussion on dosages will be made on the open board unless it needs to be discussed.

    Muscle tissue doesn't grow continuously over long periods of time, weight gain and muscular growth doesn't happen that way. Not in infants, toddlers, teenagers, or even weight trainers. Instead, weight gain seems to come in spurts or surges. It's amazing how you can train hard and eat very well year round yet only seem to make progress in quick little infrequent spurts of growth even with taking all the AAS compounds the body still gets use to whats being taken and builds up tolerance and adapts. If you look back over your cycle history you will notice the growth spurts within the cycles, we don't keep on growing because if we did we would all be 500lbs+. This method can build huge tissue gains in that short growth window if everything is in place.


    Pre -Cycle Primming- First you must open the growth window and create a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow, muscle receptors will get very excitable and upgrade to except more glucose which will shift the muscle to fat ratio which in turn will create muscle tissue to build very quickly, when this is coupled with a short burst cycle right after a prime the results can be outstanding, some of you will understand this from rebound cycling after a comp, its very similar except the prime isn't as harsh as the pre-cycle comp diet and the prime is only directed at creating and opening the growth window for the cycle, its a pre-cycle prime.(details of primming is in a separate thread).Hgh protocol should be ran during the prime at low dose and kicked up when cycle starts.


    Duration - Short burst cycling usually last for around 30 days, there is no set rule on the length of cycle and normally it can be open ended and stopped when growth slows/stops. You have to listen to the body and adjust, with burst cycling it shouldn't be ran for long periods of time, longer doesn't mean more or better gains.Keep it short and feed the growth window and build the tissue and stop, recover and maintain.

    Dosages- The dose for a short burst cycle is alot more than you would normally use in a standard length cycle, because of the prime and the body being in a very anabolic environment it can take on board alot more than usual and over loading androgens will fully push the body to grow, it also takes time for the body to adjust to the high level of hormones in relation to sides so before you are experiencing them your off cycle. Over your cycle history you would of tried the heavy dosages and seen the sides come and where its not worth the risk's to muscle gain, this is why its kept to a short period before the body can adjust with sides the cycle is over and growth is completed. Individual dosages are designed off your cycle history, there is no set dose it all depends on what your cycle history looks like, someone who normally uses 500mg per wk will be completely different to the guy who uses 1500mgs per wk when designing short burst cycles, but both will have the benefit of using high amounts what they normally don't run.

    Side effects- If your looking for the best effective way to run hormones without to much negative feedback staying on for long periods of time probably isn't the best option to take. Ive had far better blood work back from high burst cycles than when Ive ran longer cycles at alot less dosage. There is minimal impact on the HPTA and recovery is far easier than trying to bring back natural production from a long cycle, there is some elevated aggression because of the high amount of androgens but overall this can be channeled into your workouts. PCT should be painless and within normal boundaries of how you recover. Blood pressure in some can be a problem but not serious but needs to be checked throughout the period so aids can be used to combat the problem if needed. Water retention is low but can be elevated if this system is ran for long periods, but if there is a problem normal AI can be used to help this issue and OTC herbal diuretics. Tren user's within this system get bad BW results due to the harshness of the compound but boy does it produce gains but you have to be prepared to have a hard recovery and sides, kinda defeats the object but again, down to the individual.

    Compounds- Because its a short period of time the normal way would to run short ester's, but you can use long ester's within a short cycle, i know what some of you are thinking but it can be done with great results, because of the androgen overload your simply frontloading long ester's to an amount were it is effective straight from the start, the only problem is you have to drop them out 14 days before the end and swap them with fast ester's so everything is clear for PCT, i know what some are saying sounds pointless but its not, to the BB's who prefer long ester and they respond better to them, remember its designed of your cycle history so if your better with long esters go with them until 14 days from the end and swap to fast ester's, the daily injection and the amount of tissue the body can produce in a short period is amazing, if anyone wants to discuss long ester's with this theory i will but at this moment in time i will stop before i complicate things more. Short ester's and fast acting compounds are used and the exact compounds depends on what your trying to achieve but normally its Test based or what you respond best to, 2 /3 compounds are ran at a time but no need to run loads, keep them limited less is better,Ive even known guys used 1 compound with stunning results. HGH is increased to a high amount when cycle starts just like all the compounds. I did a study once with some BB's and the dosages range alot with all different HGH protocol's which is interesting reading but i can go into that at a later date.

    Maintenance - Due to the HPTA being shut down or suppressed for a short period of time its far better to get it to respond when the cycle is over, remember being shut down for weeks on end cause's serious issues about recovery and maintenance, shorter shut downs produces easier recovery no matter how much you have pushed in the body,which in turn results in better maintenance which equals keeping more gains. Once you have shut down your HPTA its down and its the period of shutdown what cause's damage, would you rather shut down your HPTA for 14 weeks or 30 days?? or continually shutting down and recovering isn't the other best approach either, depends on the person's goals and what he wants to achieve with BBing, some of my friends who are at a high level use short burst cycling coupled with bridge's because of what they have to compete with on stage and get ready for photo shoots nearly all the time. Recovering from a standard or long cycle it cost muscle tissue while trying to recovery even with all the peptide's chemicals this day and age we still lose tissue, with this theory losing tissue is limited.

    Diet - After the prime as been implemented correctly, the cycle should be started and this day should line up with the first high carb day after the low day carbs within the prime, calories from then on should be increased to over maintenance, different opinions here to how much, again down to knowing your body and how it responds, many who increase too fast will create huge water retention due to the increase of carbs, some don't and over load can be implemented, if your one of these guys who has water retention when carbs are increased after being depleted then over maintenance should be ran for 1 week then, overload should be used, if your not and you don't carry the water from the carbs increase calories well over maintenance and go with growth, feed the dramatic growth what can occur if you have done the procedure correctly.Over eat, over feed, overload on the first day of the cycle straight after the prime from low carb phase.One last thing and i hope many understand this- diet is 24hr dedication while running the theory.

    Training - Train to how you grow, best advice here is heavy intense workouts to total failure,HIT style or what ever works for you, you have the answers on how you grow. Intense is the key, stimulation of the whole body to grow, don't waste this time, remember to train how i am recommending is impossible for 10-12 weeks, its to hard and wouldn't last 4 weeks, before a turn around is needed and lay up from the heavy training session, so with this in mind you can mentally focus on this because its only for around 30 days long. Ive used many ways myself but the best for me with this style of cycling was heavy drop sets to failure plus forced, swapped to pre-exhausted drop sets to failure the following next total body workout, then swapped again. Workouts are short but seriously intense but you have the food/chemicals and energy to support this for this short period so don't waste it, Ive seen huge amounts of tissue build from this, myself i created 10lbs of clean tissue in a very short period of time after PCT and maintenance. Everybody's different to how much they build and comes down to if you have primed correctly, designed the perfect stack for you, placed the correct amount of mg's in the blood every day and how well you train to build fresh tissue.


    When i was first learnt this method my whole body changed to a serious level,I never went back to the normal way of cycling, it suited me so much and the growth was amazing. Borreson sat me down and explained in detail how this can happen and to this day things have moved forward so much from Paul's day but i always remember him saying "please try it you will be amazed" he was right and it could for you. Look at Dorian what he did straight after a show....he was back in the gym the day after while the other were on vacation, he was using the growth window to create a very anabolic environment for tissue to grow and he used it, thats why in some years he produced some serious muscle tissue gains what has been seen since due to his method and style, many top pro's used this system but its tweaked to suit their individual's needs.

    Please note, i am not saying do short burst cycles with little time off and then back on short burst cycle, no i haven't gone into that side of things, all i am doing is explaining the whole theory behind short burst cycling with first hand experience from myself and many bodybuilder's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    My gains never have slowed down.


    I literally put on 42 lbs in 10 weeks last bulk.

    Only a small amount of fat too.

    I still think this is not going to work as planned. But we shall see! Def subbed
    4.2lbs a week? How much is glycogen storage or water retention? You were using 1gram of Test... that is alot of conversion. How did you bloods come back?

    Im not trying to be disrespectful in anyway bro. I have always followed your logs and read you stuff and enjoyed it. I find it hard to believe that ANYONE without a incredible amount of gear and GH can grow 4.2lbs a week and most of it be muscle.. for 10 weeks (I know you didnt say it was all muscle).

    The point of this cycle is to put on as much size, with low sides, to supress HPTA for short periods allowing faster/fuller recovery. As I said earlier it isnt made for everyone and some people respond to long cycles. You may be one of those people with 42lbs gained in 10 weeks. I cant knock this idea of burst cycling because people have made amazing results and same with long cycles. But dont knock something until you try it.... but by all means be skeptical, that is what helps us weigh the risks.

    I am about to find out first hand if it works for me....
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    I stated I had come off a steep cut. I gained a lot in the first 10 days- like 15lbs. Which is muscle memory glycogen and some new muscle.

    Plus I was eating about 5k calories a day.

    Now I'm cutting and ive gained about 4 lbs while in a steep deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I stated I had come off a steep cut. I gained a lot in the first 10 days- like 15lbs. Which is muscle memory glycogen and some new muscle.

    Plus I was eating about 5k calories a day.

    Now I'm cutting and ive gained about 4 lbs while in a steep deficit.
    Tren nom nom
    Very interesting man. Sounds good... I cant wait to start my Tren this weekend!
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    I am skeptical but I will watch because if it works I will do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I am skeptical but I will watch because if it works I will do it
    I am also. Not very though. I gain fast at first then slow down during cycles. So on paper this sounds great but we will see if my genetics like it and respond properly. It would be sweet to be able to blast a ridiculous amount of gear in a few weeks and recover fast then do it again. Every 8ish weeks you would be on cycle.
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    DD I think you need to hurry up and kick this thing off! The anticipation is getting to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000
    DD I think you need to hurry up and kick this thing off! The anticipation is getting to me
    Haha, I second this!
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    For real.... especially witg prop and tren sitting here and staring at me... lol
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    START TEH CYCLE BISH!!!!
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    Tomorrow guys. I'm healthy now and am taking today off to be fresh for tomorrow. I am about 5 days preloaded on anabeta and cycle guard. 2 days for the Formasurge.

    Pics tonight.

    I might have a hookup on some oral anadrol to throw in. My buddy wants me to try some and see how potent it is... cant turn down free gear My TNE Smash has some but I would like to run it higher than that allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave
    Tomorrow guys. I'm healthy now and am taking today off to be fresh for tomorrow. I am about 5 days preloaded on anabeta and cycle guard. 2 days for the Formasurge.

    Pics tonight.

    I might have a hookup on some oral anadrol to throw in. My buddy wants me to try some and see how potent it is... cant turn down free gear My TNE Smash has some but I would like to run it higher than that allows.
    If it's real anadrol man you'll LOVE it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000

    If it's real anadrol man you'll LOVE it.
    I love abombs! He is concerned it is underdosed .... I was like... well I will take em and let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave

    I love abombs! He is concerned it is underdosed .... I was like... well I will take em and let you know.
    Lol hell of a friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave

    I love abombs! He is concerned it is underdosed .... I was like... well I will take em and let you know.
    If it's underdosed just take more just saying lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285

    Lol hell of a friend
    I know right? He got almost 400 tabs in a bulk promo for dirt cheap. They are 25mg each too. I was like.... I can take about 30 of em and let you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post

    I know right? He got almost 400 tabs in a bulk promo for dirt cheap. They are 25mg each too. I was like.... I can take about 30 of em and let you know
    Awsome!! I wanna know where he bought em lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87

    Awsome!! I wanna know where he bought em lol
    Promo ended man. He didn't even tell me till too late
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post

    I love abombs! He is concerned it is underdosed .... I was like... well I will take em and let you know.
    Does he need another friend? I'm available...(no homo), ( unless of course free gear is available)
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    That's awsom. Let me know how drol works for ya. I wanna use that over dbol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod
    That's awsom. Let me know how drol works for ya. I wanna use that over dbol.
    Well I have used it before and loved it. Even if my buddy doesn't hook me up I will still be using it this cycle.

    My TNE SMASH 130 is 75mg TNE, 25mg Dbol and 30mg Anadrol per 1cc. I'm super stoked to use it and my source only made a small batch.
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    Wow that sounds like a killer careful about your joints. Gonna have some great increase in strength. Which would you prefer out of the each?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod
    Wow that sounds like a killer careful about your joints. Gonna have some great increase in strength. Which would you prefer out of the each?
    I like anadrol a bit more than dbol. There was no difference on my lipids from one to the other the times I have used them but anadrol had me less bloated. Bloat is all in the diet though IMO
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    Liquid anadrol? Sounds cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasfinest2
    Liquid anadrol? Sounds cool
    They have oral liquid or tabs. Mine is injectable. 75mg TNE, 25mg Dbol, 30mg Anadrol all in 1 injection.

    Don't want to insult anyone but TNE is Testosterone No Ester.
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    Yeah I'm gonna order some liquid drol. So today's the day ya start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod
    Yeah I'm gonna order some liquid drol. So today's the day ya start?
    Yeah or in the morning doesn't really matter. Its an off day for me. I just have to pin by tomorrow evening's workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave

    They have oral liquid or tabs. Mine is injectable. 75mg TNE, 25mg Dbol, 30mg Anadrol all in 1 injection.

    Don't want to insult anyone but TNE is Testosterone No Ester.
    Man that sounds like a sweet blend!!
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    Let's get injecting yeah buddy
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    Taking notes on this one. Just read the whole thing to catch up. Sounds MONEY!!

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    Updates?
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    He overdosed! I kid I kid! Lol
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    Lol.... this will be awsome if this actually works.... imagine how many good keepable cycles you could have in a yr... especially if tou through in some peptides or lgf lr3 or insulin or hgh in with the mix and off cycle.... oooo ahhhh....
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    Bump for OP.

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    Yeah... hes supposed to have injected by now....
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    Dave's pinned already trust me lol sometimes he dissapears for a few days. No one knows where he goes but last log I think we decided he locked himself up in a sex cave for a few days lol he'll be back and more swoll than he was when he left
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danb2285 View Post
    Dave's pinned already trust me lol sometimes he dissapears for a few days. No one knows where he goes but last log I think we decided he locked himself up in a sex cave for a few days lol he'll be back and more swoll than he was when he left
    I think we lost him to his sex-capades for the next few days lol.
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    I say we go hold him down and pin him and get this going
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