Deca/Test log: version Smash Time
- 03-26-2012, 05:45 PM
Regarding holding onto strength during PCT, this is something that depends completely on how you train and your CNS recovery abilities.M.Ed. Ex Phys
- 03-26-2012, 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Rodja
Last cycle I gained nearly 30 lbs, and my strength gains were crazy. My strength gains stopped in pct, but I didn't really lose any strength either, and my weight stayed about the same. After pct this became problematic because I kept getting stuck when I'd try to increase weight, and when I'd drop 10% I wasn't able to push through. Then I got real sick and lost a lot of weight, and my strength went down. So I dunno if maybe I needed a longer or more aggressive pct, but I didn't have any problems maintaining strength or size during that time - just progress came to a halt.
03-26-2012, 07:39 PM
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03-27-2012, 04:34 AM
03-27-2012, 04:55 AM
Started my deload today, felt pretty good. I'd been having some lower back pain since last week, so I felt like it was a good time to start.
Percentages based on weight last lifted:
Overhead press 60(52%) 15-15-13
Front squat 90(60%) 12-12-10
Front squat shrug 90(60%) 20-20-20
I did the shrugs real slow, and keep the weight real low, but I was able to shrug 225 just a couple weeks ago, so don't know if I should keep them heavier?
And I was able to do sets of 20-25 on all my isolation exercises.
I am now dosing test 450mg/week, deca 330mg/week. I also lowered my test p dose to 75mg eod, and that will be until the beginning of next week.
03-27-2012, 04:21 PM
I didn't think to ask before, but when you deload is it 50% of 1rm or of what you were repping? And do you go up in weight with each subsequent workout in a given exercise during deload?
03-27-2012, 05:45 PM
03-27-2012, 06:36 PM
03-27-2012, 07:25 PM
03-27-2012, 09:25 PM
How many sets? Is it really slow speed or something? I mean that seems like almost nothing...Originally Posted by Rodja
03-27-2012, 09:44 PM
03-27-2012, 09:56 PM
03-27-2012, 10:20 PM
So I'm thinking of going from my 5x5 routine to this maybe half way through:
Heavy Lower Body
Medium Lower Body
Light Lower Body
Heavy = 3-6 reps
Medium = 6-9 reps
Light = 10-15 reps
A1 Heavy 3 3-6
A2 Medium 3 6-9
B1 Heavy (A1 continued) 3 3-6
B2 Light 3 10-15
This is based on:
So 6 weeks 5x5, 1 week deload, and then remainder of cycle follow the above program(6-8 weeks).
Thatd be a 60-65 lb increase across the board, which doesn't sound unreasonable in 4 months, or I could switch over right off the bat and I'd have a 30-35 lb increase. This is of course if I don't stick at a weight, any thoughts?
03-29-2012, 12:17 AM
Another deload day, and even with the ease I still got a good sweat on. And I'm growing, my weight has been going up steadily for days. I think I'll hit 205 no problem, might even shoot for 210 because of weight loss in pct. I love that size from deca is said to stick around real well - apparently twice as well as test.
03-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Here's an article that says to move into the 6-15 rep range if you're feeling pain in lifts:
Makes me think I really should move into lower weight higher repetition.
03-29-2012, 04:34 PM
Lifts are only unsafe if done incorrectly. If you're feeling pain, there are two possibilities: your technique is off or you need to work on your mobility.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
03-29-2012, 05:10 PM
I've filmed my deadlift, squat, and bench and had them reviewed. Little pointers here and there, but I prolly would benefit from having a trainer for a bit. My squat was problematic, which is why I switched to front squat variation - my upper back mobility wasn't allowing my wrists to go into proper position, and my hips weren't bending to get my butt to stick out correctly. My deadlift looks ok, but I'm getting lower back pain that comes and goes. Im having trouble differentiating between doms and back injury, and I might just be a hypercondriac. And then sometimes I get shoulder pain when I bench, like my shoulders bout to pop out. Not every time, but enough for me to think I need to fix something - maybe only go to 90 degrees, instead of to the chest.Originally Posted by Rodja
03-30-2012, 03:14 AM
I'm kind of pissed, all the sudden acne got real bad tonight. Out of nowhere. Broke out all over my back and shoulders.
03-30-2012, 09:33 AM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
03-30-2012, 11:33 AM
03-30-2012, 11:50 AM
04-01-2012, 02:16 PM
04-01-2012, 02:20 PM
04-01-2012, 04:14 PM
So I figured out it wasn't an acne break out, it was hives and flea bites. I didn't notice cause my skin gets itchy after I tan, but the itch got super intense and I noticed my roommates kittens have fleas. Bombed the house, treated the kittens.
04-03-2012, 05:59 PM
Kinda sticking at this weight now, I guess I need to eat more - I might switch from regular protein to weight gainer, or get some more waxy maize too.
It was another deload day, I was a day off cause I got called into work. I will be going back to routine on Thursday.
04-04-2012, 07:07 PM
Just do it like a lot of pros. Low reps with slow slow movement. Ten try resistance with the same reps to get your fast and slow twitch muscle fiber growth. I've been doing this for a year now. Try decca/dbol/test 400. Greatest stack I've ever used, old school and no side effects. If you want to build up that solid strength I would recommend a 10 month cycle of gh and test. In one year I have gained rank results. On that stack who wouldn't though.
04-04-2012, 07:38 PM
10 month cycle of test? Is that even considered a cycle anymore? lol I don't think he's training for his pro card quite yet...
04-05-2012, 04:05 PM
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