Oral conversion of fina pellets

[PVL]

........the other thing about using aas is being willing to suffer and put up with a lot of discomfort. .....its a fact.....think of the old expression 'no pain no gain'........doin' roids can take you out of your comfort zone......................can' t you 'kill' your pancreas messing with insulin......or is glucophage not the same thing???????

not the same thing..........different compounds bro............

try large doses of fenugreek if you are scaredof scripts............3g a day

[oli]

how about getting back on topic? anybody know a conversion rate??

[JudoJosh]

how about getting back on topic? anybody know a conversion rate??

Probably around 10-25%

The real question is how toxic is this going to be on your liver or kidneys?

If you dont want to pin, why not just go the transdermal route?

[RH2012]

Yes I have pinned before yes I have used actual tren before but I'm curious could one take several pellets of the fina and get something like maybe 50 mgs worth of trenbolone ace out of it. I'm looking to stay legal as I can no lnger take the risk

i have pinned fina several times and i like it. the only sides i got were gyno at 100mg ed. 100 eod or 75 ed elliminated the problem. but ur question, i am going to try oral fina in the future. oral bioavailability should be increased by dissolving the pellets in oil prior to ingestion. if i remember correctly, there are 100 pellets in a cart. 10 lines of 10 pellets. each pellet has 20mg of tren ace.
imo this would be as practical as trying trenavar. btw ransdermal fina works i've heard.

[RH2012]

dude its still illegal to possess, lol! not only that but the reason for the conversion is to make sure you dont get the prolactin side effects......

u will find out the hard way by taking pellets meant for livestock........you ever wonder why they give them to animals?

ur wrong. the only reason for a conversion is to make an injectable. it has nothing to do with the fact that trenbolone has prolactin sides.
tren is not toxic to the liver or kidneys.

[PVL]

ur wrong. the only reason for a conversion is to make an injectable. it has nothing to do with the fact that trenbolone has prolactin sides.
tren is not toxic to the liver or kidneys.

it is extremelt toxic to your whole internal organs man...........where have you been?

and yes it has a very strong history of causing prolactin issues...........read its profile..........not good for you at ALL

[charley]

Trenbolone is a steroid drug that is used by animal doctors to be used on animals for things like building muscles. It can also be used to increase their muscles. But Trenbolone has found its way to the underground of illegal drugs. There are athletes and body builders that are using this steroid either in Trenbolone Acetate form or Trenbolone Enanthate form. They are both effective in building body mass and strength. This is why so many find using this steroid as an easier way to build their muscles. But there are a lot of side effects that come along with this steroid called Trenbolone.
One of the side effects that are caused by using Trenbolone is on the skin. Because the Trenbolone is injected into the skin it can cause irritations. It can cause hives, swelling and redness. It can also build up scar tissue and cause things like infections in that area. This is no different than the infections that heroin addicts get from frequent use of a needle. Other effects that it can have on the skin are things like developing an oily skin. It can also cause hair to grow more rapidly on the skin. Because of the effects that Trenbolone can have on the liver it can give your skin a yellow tinge to it.
Another side effect of Trenbolone is your sleeping habits. It can cause the user to have insomnia or change the way that you sleep. Along with the insomnia it can make you have extreme night time sweats. This can also happen the day time when you are doing even a small activity as just walking.
It can also have an extreme effect on a user’s sex life. This depends on the level of testosterone that is built up in your body.
It causes high blood pressure with a lot of people that use Trenbolone. It can also go to the extreme of causing cardiovascular problems. Though this may be rare it has happened.
The most common side effect of Trenbolone is coughing. The cough is usually called Tren cough. This cough will show up as soon as you inject the Trenbolone into your body. They are not sure why this happens. Maybe because the steroid rushed though you body at such a fast rate or some part of the steroid going quickly onto your lungs that this is what causes you to cough. People that have had this cough say that it can be a very scary experience. Along with the cough you can get a metal taste in your mouth that can be pretty nauseating.
Some say that Trenbolone can affect your kidneys but there is no proven research on that. But using this steroid along with others can cause very hostile mood swings.
After reading all the side effects that using Trenbolone can cause you have to wonder if all of the side effects are worth the trouble. Yes, it may cause you to get bigger muscles but it can also cause a bunch of hassle that you do not need not to mention the fact that it is very illegal.

[lyfespan]

ur wrong. the only reason for a conversion is to make an injectable. it has nothing to do with the fact that trenbolone has prolactin sides.
tren is not toxic to the liver or kidneys.

Just WOW, do sum research man. TREN ; injectable, methly, or oral are all really hard on the renal and hepatic systems. Havent you ever seen orange rusty looking piss while running tren? havent you experienced the pressure in your kidneys(probobly thought it wuz back pumps)? havent you ever felt that pressure sitting on your liver area on the ryte of your abdomen?

Orals are more toxic to these systems than injectables, just for the fact of the conversions that have to take place, taxing the body heavily.

[PVL]

Just WOW, do sum research man. TREN ; injectable, methly, or oral are all really hard on the renal and hepatic systems. Havent you ever seen orange rusty looking piss while running tren? havent you experienced the pressure in your kidneys(probobly thought it wuz back pumps)? havent you ever felt that pressure sitting on your liver area on the ryte of your abdomen?

Orals are more toxic to these systems than injectables, just for the fact of the conversions that have to take place, taxing the body heavily.

well said bro..........i will NEVER EVER use this crap again...........i lost someone very special in my life because I was ADDICTED to tren, and i live with that everyday. if i could go back and do it all over again, i would. today i sit alone on christmas and rethink my decisions over and over, because it was my fault..........i didnt have control of my addiction.

that is why i tell everyone who dabbles in tren to think cautiously before trying a cycle. the effects of this drug are extremely strong, and you may also lose someone very special to you because you can not control your temper or the things you say...........

like i said, is it worth being a lil bit bigger, to lose someone so close to your heart..........IMO NO..........!!!!!

[Jethro52185]

well said bro..........i will NEVER EVER use this crap again...........i lost someone very special in my life because I was ADDICTED to tren, and i live with that everyday. if i could go back and do it all over again, i would. today i sit alone on christmas and rethink my decisions over and over, because it was my fault..........i didnt have control of my addiction.

that is why i tell everyone who dabbles in tren to think cautiously before trying a cycle. the effects of this drug are extremely strong, and you may also lose someone very special to you because you can not control your temper or the things you say...........

like i said, is it worth being a lil bit bigger, to lose someone so close to your heart..........IMO NO..........!!!!!

There's this little thing called a filter between your brain and your mouth. Use it, It's that simple. Tren comes out of your system in a short amount of time. Tren isn't addicting either. To me it sounds like you are the one with the problems and you should have known that going into a tren cycle. Of course it's harsh, and if you can't control your mouth or temper while off cycle, you surely can't control it while on cycle. I've had thoughts of anger, but it's as simple as realizing you shouldn't say something before you say it, and excusing yourself to get a grip if you need to. The important people in your life should know what you are doing, and understand how it can and will effect you and them. These are the kind of horror stories that scare people, and give aas a bad name. I've never had a problem, and no one i know has had a problem. I guess there are people out there that can't control themselves, and I agree, they should strongly consider this before hand and make an informed decision. But in no way does tren turn everyone into a crazed raging a-hole.

[RH2012]

Just WOW, do sum research man. TREN ; injectable, methly, or oral are all really hard on the renal and hepatic systems. Havent you ever seen orange rusty looking piss while running tren? havent you experienced the pressure in your kidneys(probobly thought it wuz back pumps)? havent you ever felt that pressure sitting on your liver area on the ryte of your abdomen?

Orals are more toxic to these systems than injectables, just for the fact of the conversions that have to take place, taxing the body heavily.

thats bro science. i welcome u to cite an actual scientific study showing trenbolone to be toxic to any organ system. methyl tren (methyltrienolone) is a totally different compound and it is proven in research to be extremely toxic.

[RH2012]

it is extremelt toxic to your whole internal organs man...........where have you been?

and yes it has a very strong history of causing prolactin issues...........read its profile..........not good for you at ALL

i welcome u to show an actual scientific study showing trenbolone to be toxic. this stuff was released as a human drug in the past and was tested on humans.

[lyfespan]

thats bro science. i welcome u to cite an actual scientific study showing trenbolone to be toxic to any organ system. methyl tren (methyltrienolone) is a totally different compound and it is proven in research to be extremely toxic.

lol well you know why us bros tell each other about **** we run and have the forums and had groups of indivuals at gyms before computers, cuz most of the compounds dont have enough clinical research behind them to go on. But you go on and keep believing what you want, your invincible.

[RH2012]

lol well you know why us bros tell each other about **** we run and have the forums and had groups of indivuals at gyms before computers, cuz most of the compounds dont have enough clinical research behind them to go on. But you go on and keep believing what you want, your invincible.

i'm not tryin to argue with u. just tryin to get the facts straight. i only believe in science.

[RH2012]

how about getting back on topic? anybody know a conversion rate??

i found this by henryv
The first place to turn to for information on steroids is the seminal 1969 work Androgens and Anabolic Agents by Julius Vida. Unfortunately this compound isn't among the 666 compounds discussed there, and there's a shortage of information on trenbolone by oral adminstration. I was fortunate enough to find a study which compared the anabolic effects of oral and subcutaneous application of trenbolone in rats [4], and the results were frankly startling. They found that to have a comparable anabolic effect, trenbolone needed to be administered orally at 100 times the dosage as when administered by subcutaneous injection (see graph). Sounds pretty bad for a tren PH then, right? Well, the good news is we're not rats.

Trenbolone is metabolised differently in different species - in rats, around 40% is excreted as a dione form, as well as several metabolites hydroxylated in various positions [5], but in man only one metabolite has been identified - the 17a-epimer [6

References

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[heckler7]

well said bro..........i will NEVER EVER use this crap again...........i lost someone very special in my life because I was ADDICTED to tren, and i live with that everyday. if i could go back and do it all over again, i would. today i sit alone on christmas and rethink my decisions over and over, because it was my fault..........i didnt have control of my addiction.

that is why i tell everyone who dabbles in tren to think cautiously before trying a cycle. the effects of this drug are extremely strong, and you may also lose someone very special to you because you can not control your temper or the things you say...........

like i said, is it worth being a lil bit bigger, to lose someone so close to your heart..........IMO NO..........!!!!!

sorry to here that man, I know exactly what you mean when you lose your temper. Worst part is once you realize what your doing that would make me extremely mad and frustrated that I lost control of myself. I would feel more embarressed by my behavior than anything. My wife is cool with it and just laughs at me. Funny thing is I'm super mellow, I just have a stressful job.
Anyway we all make mistakes bro, as long as you learned something from it, it will make you a better person and your next relationship will benefit from it.

[PVL]

sorry to here that man, I know exactly what you mean when you lose your temper. Worst part is once you realize what your doing that would make me extremely mad and frustrated that I lost control of myself. I would feel more embarressed by my behavior than anything. My wife is cool with it and just laughs at me. Funny thing is I'm super mellow, I just have a stressful job.
Anyway we all make mistakes bro, as long as you learned something from it, it will make you a better person and your next relationship will benefit from it.

oh my current gf is legit and sold and ****...........down for me til death.........and thats all i can ask for bro.

[jamesm11]

i welcome u to show an actual scientific study showing trenbolone to be toxic. this stuff was released as a human drug in the past and was tested on humans.

You, sir, are a moron. Tren is extremely harsh on your body. Night sweats, dark urine, pains, lactating nipples, insomnia...those are not normal body functions.

[PVL]

You, sir, are a moron. Tren is extremely harsh on your body. Night sweats, dark urine, pains, lactating nipples, insomnia...those are not normal body functions.

thank you.........he will learn the hard way i guess..........give him 5 months on some ace and he will be wishing he wasnt so hard headed.......

[lyfespan]

cant save em all