Winstrol and HGH

[jpcf]

I have access to winni and hgh at a great price son i am planning a cycle:



Week 1 - 16 HGH 4ui ed
Week 1 - 10-12 Winstrol 50mg eod

The goals are to recomp a little and herden up a little.
Maybe i will be doing a pulse with Havoc for the first 6 weeks.

What do you think??

 

[nosnmiveins]

HGH needs to be run 6+ months....16 weeks may be a little short to get results. winny needs to be 50mg ED

 

[jpcf]

Even if its Winstrol Depot?
What do you think about Winstrol

 

[nosnmiveins]

Even if its Winstrol Depot?
What do you think about Winstrol

winstrol needs to be pinned or taken orally everyday.

no experience with wintrol yet, but if ur not at a decent bf% (10% or less) then dont expect to see gains. its hard on joints but good for strength

 

[texastweeter]

i had decent results pinning eod with depot

 

[bLacKjAck.]

i had decent results pinning eod with depot

Ditto ^

Also like nos said, I don't see a reason to use winny unless your low in bodyfat (var/masteron, etc etc) these compounds are all good, but the whole point is the hard/vascular/grainy look that you only get when your low in bodyfat.

 

[jpcf]

So there is no ponit in using winstrol If i have 15% bf, i am looking to harden up bit and maybe gain strenght with the winni

 

[bushin]

winnie shouldnt be ran for longer then 8 weeks

 

[jpcf]

i think that maybe the winni could be a good stack to shed a few % bf, or maybe should i use an oral like Havoc?

 

[benj851]

I was under the impression that winny was great for cutting, but am interested to see which one is more perferred epi (havoc) or winny?

anyone got an answer?

 

[jpcf]

i have used Havoc for cutting and it is great, zero sides great strenght as for winni i would not know. Still hoping that somebody chimes in

 

[bLacKjAck.]

You know what would help you harden up and lose a little bodyfat? Eating correctly and doing the necessary amount of cardio that (maybe) your bodytype needs to lose fat at a reasonable pace.

Winny will not help you shed fat, no steroid will minus maybe tren and thats way out of the question, even then its fatloss properties aren't direct, moreso by other pathways cause indirect fatloss. Thats beside my point though. Steroids won't make you lose fat! < that is.

My big question to ya. Why? Why spend money on all this when you could pick up a fatburner and some other small things - and for where your at I bet the results wouldn't be very noticeably different. Both compounds are amazing when used at the right time. I just don't think your there at all right now and would be wasting your money in a big way.

 

[jpcf]

I am not saying that winni would burn fat, i am just saying that winni would help to diet a little more and not loose a lot of muscle. I really think a fat burner would not do much exept something like Slim Xtreme. i think that a fat burner and other small things are very different to HGH and winni in terms of results even if someone like me used them.

 

[MSE]

I am not saying that winni would burn fat, i am just saying that winni would help to diet a little more and not loose a lot of muscle. I really think a fat burner would not do much exept something like Slim Xtreme. i think that a fat burner and other small things are very different to HGH and winni in terms of results even if someone like me used them.

I agree with just about everything everyone above me posted. If you are not low in BF Winnie will not do a whole lot for you, oral winnie should probably only be ran for 8 weeks, HGH needs to be ran way longer than 4 months to see any type of results (typically). Winnie is a great hardening drug, but to harden you have to get rid of the BF, my advice is, since you have a connection to get at a great price, grab the winnie, throw it in your closet, loose 3-5% BF (that shouldn't take you too long), after that hit the winnie. You are going to be much happier with the noticeable results then as you would be if you ran it now. Just my thoughts...

 

[texastweeter]

unless of course you are going after the strength aspect of the winn, but there are a lot of other things that would do that better imo

 

[benj851]

like what?

 

[texastweeter]

Anadrol, or test-suspension are a couple. maybe i shouldnt have said a lot, but a handfull is more like it.

 

[lextronics]

how many cycles have you done previously? also what where they...we can def help you more with that info...

hgh does need to be run 6+ months for real results you wont see much of anything in 16 weeks...and winny alone without test is not good either...

tell us your cycle history and how long youve been training? then we can help you figure out a good cycle for your goals



also hgh is something you should only run after being on bunch of cycles..

 

[GLHF]

idk how much ur paying for the HGH and winstrol but heres my advice

750-1000mg/week of test
t3 and clen cycle http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=137526
go on a hard keto no carbs for first 14days, and then add a cheat meal once every week. when ur off clen, take a fat burner like 6 oxo, and dose it high. TRUST me u will lose fat, and the test will keep muscle on.

 

[mooch2321]

^^^^6 oxo?

 

[GLHF]

^^^^6 oxo?

my bad, i ment another supplement that i used, the names were kinda the same. anyway, any fat burner would b ok while ur off clen

 

[jpcf]

how many cycles have you done previously? also what where they...we can def help you more with that info...

hgh does need to be run 6+ months for real results you wont see much of anything in 16 weeks...and winny alone without test is not good either...

tell us your cycle history and how long youve been training? then we can help you figure out a good cycle for your goals



also hgh is something you should only run after being on bunch of cycles..

I have done 4 cycles of PH (hdrol-Havoc_m-drol-phera) i have been training for about 4 years seriously i am looking to shed a a few lbs. of fat and keep the muscle that i have.