Gr-Easy EJL's fish oil megadosing ala Charles Poliquin thread

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    According to LEF, using high amounts of fish oil can increase lipid peroxidation in certain pathways. They suggest, based on their data, that you also include a little bit of Sesamin and Extra Virgin Olive oil.
    Can you explain what this means to me please, I do not fully understand what you are saying here?

    Much Love,

    Neoborn


  2. for a little over a week i've also been mega dosing CNW's fish oil caps @ 30 grams a day, spread evenly over about 8 meals (excluding PWO, but again Post post) and I've just recently bumped to 45 grams. i've been back at college for the last month so dieting has been difficult, but this weekend i'm going to map out more of a structured program and push for a lil natty recomp per se. using fish oils. so far i can't say i've experienced any weight gain. though i haven't lost weight and i am eating more now that i was before i left for school... so perhaps the fish oils are helping me stay lean in that regard? i'd much prefer to test their effects with more of recomp type diet/ workout regimen. i've been trying to bulk up as clean as possible and gain lean weight, which was why i added the oils to begin with.

    but i will say that i like the added benefits of mega dosing fish oils. like others have said, the natural anti depressant properties of fish oils are astounding. i feel great all the time mood wise, despite everything going on in my life i manage to keep a happy face. 45 grams seems to be the recommended dose though, or somewhere in that vicinity methinks, so i'm going to try that out.
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  3. As of yesterday I started megadosing with 40g/day with caps.

    We'll see how this goes. If anything my joints could certainly use it.

  4. just be prepared to change to an "oily hair" shampoo

  5. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    just be prepared to change to an "oily hair" shampoo
    Lovely. Anything else I should be aware of that has not been mentioned in prior posts?
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  6. Can you guys direct me to the cheapest source of liquid fish oil? The cheapest I can manage is around 5cents a gram. Any bulk (ie. 2L) suppliers?
    cc

  7. Quote Originally Posted by beallio View Post
    Lovely. Anything else I should be aware of that has not been mentioned in prior posts?
    Not in terms of negatives no. the hair isn't that bad.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by canadian champ View Post
    Can you guys direct me to the cheapest source of liquid fish oil? The cheapest I can manage is around 5cents a gram. Any bulk (ie. 2L) suppliers?
    cc
    If you have them, I'd recommend Costco. I pickup 400 caps (1g/cap) for ~ $9
    Kirkland Signature™
    Fish Oil Concentrate

  9. cool thread, Poliquin is a great strength coach -- but don't think that his athletes are natural. With that said, I'm going to up my fish oil dosing

  10. Quote Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59 View Post
    cool thread, Poliquin is a great strength coach -- but don't think that his athletes are natural. With that said, I'm going to up my fish oil dosing
    I've been following his principles since the MM2K days...

  11. Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I've been following his principles since the MM2K days...
    he's definitely legit... Packed 55lbs of Muscle and killed all the fat on David Boston in ~14months. Didn't result in a better football player after Boston crossed 235lbs, but impressive results nonetheless.

    He works with tons of NHL players who are generally AAS free (HGH might be a different story).

  12. Quote Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59 View Post
    he's definitely legit... Packed 55lbs of Muscle and killed all the fat on David Boston in ~14months. Didn't result in a better football player after Boston crossed 235lbs, but impressive results nonetheless.

    He works with tons of NHL players who are generally anabolic steroids free (HGH might be a different story).

    David Boston was a Franken-Steroid project!

  13. A good brand of gelcaps to avoid fish burps is Barleans. When you open the bottle it smells like an orange.

  14. I might try this mega dosing but I would like to find better tasting liuid if possible. Tried a few way back when think twinlab maybe Vshoppe and wasn't easy to deal with but if benefits are there I'll deal with the taste or find cheaper(quality as well)caps.

  15. Interesting thread.

    Subscribed!

    So there is no health risk involved with such high dosage of fish oil, right?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Solitude View Post
    Interesting thread.

    Subscribed!

    So there is no health risk involved with such high dosage of fish oil, right?
    Some. Really the main one is that cuts are likely to take longer to stop bleeding. thats the primary. other than that there is limited damage. Remember this is around the amount of fish oil you would get from eating 2-3 4oz salmon fillets a day. Not completely insane.

    BTW quick update for me, scale is now reading 211 for the last 2 days, so a bit lower. Hard to say why, but its 2 days in a row. So that still leaves me at 12 lbs up in 19 days, which is still better than i see from most steroids/designers/ etc and at the same time my liver isn't crying in my sleep, and if anything my cholesterol should be improving....

  17. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Some. Really the main one is that cuts are likely to take longer to stop bleeding. thats the primary. other than that there is limited damage.
    i was going to ask you about this. im not taking big doses of Fish oil , but since i runned out of cycle support i increased my dose from 6 gr ED to 9.6-12 gr and i have noticed that my blood got a nice bright red color and it takes longer to coagulate and to form scabs and once the scabs are formed they can be easyly removed. i got a nose bleed 3 days ago and it hasnt healed completely. it starts healing and eveything but if i sneeze i start with the nose bleed and it takes time to heal again. i think im going to drop the fish oil a few days till my nose bleeds stop.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    i was going to ask you about this. im not taking big doses of Fish oil , but since i runned out of cycle support i increased my dose from 6 gr ED to 9.6-12 gr and i have noticed that my blood got a nice bright red color and it takes longer to coagulate and to form scabs and once the scabs are formed they can be easyly removed. i got a nose bleed 3 days ago and it hasnt healed completely. it starts healing and eveything but if i sneeze i start with the nose bleed and it takes time to heal again. i think im going to drop the fish oil a few days till my nose bleeds stop.
    yeah, thats probably it as far as negatives go. Overall compared to the sides of a lot of the other stuff out there its not bad.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Some. Really the main one is that cuts are likely to take longer to stop bleeding. thats the primary. other than that there is limited damage. Remember this is around the amount of fish oil you would get from eating 2-3 4oz salmon fillets a day. Not completely insane.
    I see, that shouldn't be too bad. It's good for the joints as well right?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Solitude View Post
    I see, that shouldn't be too bad. It's good for the joints as well right?
    yeah, i'm getting very nice elbow recovery times now, its probably clipped pain time in half, if not less.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yeah, i'm getting very nice elbow recovery times now, its probably clipped pain time in half, if not less.
    When cycling PH/PS, will mega-dosing fish oils have negative effects on the compounds?

  22. I can't think of any reason why, other than possibly from its anti inflammatory effects, but that seems to not effect muscle growth negatively. I think it could be a big plus really in that it would help to keep lipid profiles straighter.

    Really I'm not sure whether I personally would take it on a cycle tho, moreso use it during PCT + time off. that way its a bridge kind of, can keep gains going potentially and help fix any cholesterol damage. I'm not sure tho really. It just would seem to be something of a waste to take it with a ph/ps, at least from what results i've gotten so far from fish oil alone.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I can't think of any reason why, other than possibly from its anti inflammatory effects, but that seems to not effect muscle growth negatively. I think it could be a big plus really in that it would help to keep lipid profiles straighter.

    Really I'm not sure whether I personally would take it on a cycle tho, moreso use it during post cycle therapy + time off. that way its a bridge kind of, can keep gains going potentially and help fix any cholesterol damage. I'm not sure tho really. It just would seem to be something of a waste to take it with a ph/ps, at least from what results i've gotten so far from fish oil alone.
    I see, so its definitely a valuable tool during PCT. Nice!

    Might need to try it out in the future.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    On Sept 2 at 199lbs, I started taking in 30+ g of fish oil a day.
    Did you have to take a second mortgage out on your house to afford that much?

    What type of fish oil do you take?

  25. E, what do your macros look like? How far above maintenance are your cals?
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