Gr-Easy EJL's fish oil megadosing ala Charles Poliquin thread
- 09-20-2007, 05:33 PM
- 09-20-2007, 05:34 PM
- 09-20-2007, 05:49 PM
09-20-2007, 06:01 PM
cool thread, Poliquin is a great strength coach -- but don't think that his athletes are natural. With that said, I'm going to up my fish oil dosing
09-20-2007, 06:13 PM
09-20-2007, 06:28 PM
He works with tons of NHL players who are generally AAS free (HGH might be a different story).
09-20-2007, 08:44 PM
09-20-2007, 09:32 PM
A good brand of gelcaps to avoid fish burps is Barleans. When you open the bottle it smells like an orange.
09-20-2007, 09:36 PM
I might try this mega dosing but I would like to find better tasting liuid if possible. Tried a few way back when think twinlab maybe Vshoppe and wasn't easy to deal with but if benefits are there I'll deal with the taste or find cheaper(quality as well)caps.
09-21-2007, 04:05 AM
So there is no health risk involved with such high dosage of fish oil, right?
09-21-2007, 05:03 AM
BTW quick update for me, scale is now reading 211 for the last 2 days, so a bit lower. Hard to say why, but its 2 days in a row. So that still leaves me at 12 lbs up in 19 days, which is still better than i see from most steroids/designers/ etc and at the same time my liver isn't crying in my sleep, and if anything my cholesterol should be improving....
09-21-2007, 05:16 AM
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09-21-2007, 05:57 AM
09-21-2007, 05:59 AM
09-21-2007, 06:03 AM
09-21-2007, 06:12 AM
I can't think of any reason why, other than possibly from its anti inflammatory effects, but that seems to not effect muscle growth negatively. I think it could be a big plus really in that it would help to keep lipid profiles straighter.
Really I'm not sure whether I personally would take it on a cycle tho, moreso use it during PCT + time off. that way its a bridge kind of, can keep gains going potentially and help fix any cholesterol damage. I'm not sure tho really. It just would seem to be something of a waste to take it with a ph/ps, at least from what results i've gotten so far from fish oil alone.
09-21-2007, 06:16 AM
09-21-2007, 06:59 AM
09-21-2007, 08:22 AM
E, what do your macros look like? How far above maintenance are your cals?
09-21-2007, 08:31 AM
Right now i'm taking vitamin shoppe brand in liquid, and its costing under $1/day. Custom Nutrition Warehouse (a board sponsor) has their caps at a ridiculously low price too - 1000 1g caps for $28 I think, so also under $1/day.
I think right now my macros are around 40carb/30pro/30fat workout days and 30/40/30 non workout. basically on workout days I am taking in an extra 100~150g of carbs just to survive thru GVT. Its hard to say where I am vs maintenance, since I think I have light thyroid issues and slow metabolism. my personal belief is that normal day maintenance is around 1800 or so. Right now i'm between 3600-4000 cal workout days and 3200-3600 non workout. I wouldn't normally go so high on fats, but what can I do when i'm trying to take in red meat, and taking 45g of fish oil a day? When I go to cutting it will radically change as i'll hardly take in any fat besides the fish oil, and get more of my protein from shakes, and most of my carbs from fruit.
09-21-2007, 09:09 AM
09-21-2007, 09:37 AM
of course you can't get gains without going over maintenance cals, thats basically against the laws of physics (sort of like believing that michael jackson had little boys in his bed and poured wine down their throats and then just read bedtime stories). So gaining scale weight has to come from that. But I attribute the fact that its all lean mass (i've got increased definition vs when I was 12 lbs lower) to the fish oil / incarnate / leviathan combo
09-21-2007, 09:57 AM
09-21-2007, 11:01 AM
It appears I may have mis-read what LEF was talking about in regards to fish and sesame oil. Thus far, aside from thinning of the blood, I can't find any dangers in using large amounts of fish oil. If the argument that Poliquin present is correct..ie our ancestors used to consume the 30-45 grams per day..then there's likely no danger.
Other than going broke.
09-21-2007, 11:05 AM
10oz of salmon a day is over 2g of DHA....
09-21-2007, 11:59 AM
I'm trying this out right now too. I've been around 40 g a day of the liquid fish oils for about 4 days and am noticing improved mood, if nothing else. I'm interested to see what what kind of results I'm going to get with this.
Also, I've read on other boards that many people don't like the caps because they don't seem to have the same results. Some have speculated that the encapsulation process may compromise the integrity of the oil. I have no idea idea if this theory has any validity, but I've dosed as high as 20 g a day with the caps, and noticed no discerable effects.
But with the liquid, I have definately noticed an improvement in mood and the way I handle myself; I seem to be more talkative and happy to deal with people, if that makes any sense.
09-21-2007, 12:04 PM
09-21-2007, 12:31 PM
I've heard the same things about Flax Seed Oil. The health benegits are pronounced with the liquid but nowhere as obvious w/ the same dose in capsules. I belive that it has something to do, as you alluded to, with the process.
E, do you keep your oil refrigerated? I know Flax oil must be refrigerated or it gets rancid. Of course, since you finish off a bottle in a week, there is no time to get rancid, huh?
09-21-2007, 12:33 PM
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09-21-2007, 01:13 PM
man I read the wrong easy my bad
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09-21-2007, 01:14 PM
is there EPA + DHA in flax oil? I'm looking to find dosages of it
09-21-2007, 01:15 PM
09-21-2007, 01:18 PM
HAHA I got you.
Well wilman & xjsynx if you can wait until Jan 3rd I'll be doing most all that on my CKD, minus the GVT. The GVT may kill me while bulking
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09-21-2007, 01:19 PM
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