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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Freeze your caps, and this should eliminate teh burps.
    Freezing them did help some with me, but it depends on how many I swallow. Higher doses (4 pills or so) still create a little nastiness, despite the frozen pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian champ View Post
    ok guys this really has me intrigued.
    I'm going to have my buddy with poor eyesight (degenerative eye disease) start a regimen of 30g of fish oil a day for a month with before and after ERGs. Hopefully I can get a paper out of it. I'm going to be doing the same regimen and report my strength changes and anything else I notice.
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    Walmart sells an Entric coated capsule. Pretty cheap too.. I think its like $10 for 300 caps. I don't get burps from them and I take 10 every night before bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Really? I will have to revisit that thread. Because that was a 14 week transformation.
    Don't know if it came out on t-nation per-se. I remember he stated it in an online chat a few years ago. Seems like he was using the prohormone that Biotest had out at the time (forget the name), although he didn't publicy say he was using the prohormone during his Beast Evolves supplement list.

    I have the Beast Evolves article printed out as I used to like T-Nation but lost interest over the years because of the hyping of Biotest and bashing of other products. Sadly I can't even look at T-Nation now as I get a Access Denied on my work computer. Guess they got porn or something going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Don't know if it came out on t-nation per-se. I remember he stated it in an online chat a few years ago. Seems like he was using the prohormone that Biotest had out at the time (forget the name), although he didn't publicy say he was using the prohormone during his Beast Evolves supplement list.
    maybe he thought it was flax oil at the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    maybe he thought it was flax oil at the time
    LOL, yeah you better watch out. You keep mega dosing fish oil and you might end up like Barry Bonds, with a caveman cranium.:bb3:
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    maybe he thought it was flax oil at the time


    Thats what they all say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Don't know if it came out on t-nation per-se. I remember he stated it in an online chat a few years ago. Seems like he was using the prohormone that Biotest had out at the time (forget the name), although he didn't publicy say he was using the prohormone during his Beast Evolves supplement list.

    I have the Beast Evolves article printed out as I used to like T-Nation but lost interest over the years because of the hyping of Biotest and bashing of other products. Sadly I can't even look at T-Nation now as I get a Access Denied on my work computer. Guess they got porn or something going on.
    Mag-10...but he said that he couldn't get it in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Don't know if it came out on t-nation per-se. I remember he stated it in an online chat a few years ago. Seems like he was using the prohormone that Biotest had out at the time (forget the name), although he didn't publicy say he was using the prohormone during his Beast Evolves supplement list.

    I have the Beast Evolves article printed out as I used to like T-Nation but lost interest over the years because of the hyping of Biotest and bashing of other products. Sadly I can't even look at T-Nation now as I get a Access Denied on my work computer. Guess they got porn or something going on.
    They had a few, but their main ones were: MAG-10 and 4-AD

    Here is what he says:

    A drug-free transformation such as mine is within your reach, too. I always believed (and still believe) that I have about the worst genetics in the world, at least when it comes to getting lean. My whole family has a history of weight problems and I wasn't spared. So if I can get lean, there's no reason why you can't!

    I was also a victim of Canadian customs. As a result, I couldn't receive any MAG-10 or 4-AD-EC. There's no doubt in my mind that my progress would have been much faster and I would have gained much more muscle size if those products had been available to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    They had a few, but their main ones were: MAG-10 and 4-AD

    Here is what he says:
    Yeah I got that, but it came out on a chat board that t-nation was hosting that he in fact did use Mag10. That's what the big stink was over was the fact the he blatantly said he didn't.

    Either way, he still made an amazing transformation. I will say I enjoyed his routines although I like Chad Waterbury a little better.
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    I was cutting for a few weeks and didn't see much fat loss on scale or mirror, added 24g/day of vitamin shoppe fish oil and started losing ~1 lb/week on the scale and looking better. Eventually my strength strated to fall off so I stopped cutting but the Vitamin SHoppe liquid seems pretty good and it's affordable. Although when I added it to a shake, all i could taste was OILY LEMON-LIME. Tastes much better in a spoon and down the hatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bludevil View Post
    Yeah I got that, but it came out on a chat board that t-nation was hosting that he in fact did use Mag10. That's what the big stink was over was the fact the he blatantly said he didn't.

    Either way, he still made an amazing transformation. I will say I enjoyed his routines although I like Chad Waterbury a little better.
    Well if that is true he shouldn't be shouting from the roof tops that he it was a drug-free transformation.

    Anywho, to in addendum to this thread, here is CT's quote on Mega-Dosing Fish Oil

    Fish Oil
    One mistake I made when I underwent my original transformation was that I didn't include enough fish oil. I now firmly believe that mega-dosing fish oil is one of the best strategies you can use to impart drastic body comp changes to your physique.

    When in a rapid fat loss phase, most of my clients will ingest at least 15g of fish oil, sometimes up to 30-40g. I personally use 30g per day. I like to use one or two servings of Flameout per day and I make up the rest with a good blend of fish oil.

    I do split the intake of fish oil throughout the day, normally at 3 to 5g per meal over five or six meals a day. (I don't take it post-workout.)
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    I was going to try this when I start my CKD. Anyone know if there is any benifit from liquid over caps.

    If not than in hitting up CNW they have an un-beatable deal on fish oil. It'll be a pain in the arss but idk for that price, or the burps for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I was going to try this when I start my CKD. Anyone know if there is any benifit from liquid over caps.

    If not than in hitting up CNW they have an un-beatable deal on fish oil. It'll be a pain in the arss but idk for that price, or the burps for that matter.
    nah, no real difference, just the amount of space it takes up yeah, that is hot from CNW, i'll probably buy some so I can leave em at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    I never get burps from Carlson's lemon flavor.

    Pricey though.
    Yeah I like the sound of that, I'll keep buying my 1000's o gel caps from CNW and my liquid from NP .....yeah baby! Let's do this lemony lime mmmmmmm.

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    Cool neo! its got all sorts of benefits. I'm actually now at over 2 weeks solid noticing nice mood enhancement from it. I feel good all the time now
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    benefits.


    BeneGits!
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    According to LEF, using high amounts of fish oil can increase lipid peroxidation in certain pathways. They suggest, based on their data, that you also include a little bit of Sesamin and Extra Virgin Olive oil.

    I have no idea how important this really is or if it will interfere or enhance Poliquin's recommendations, but thought I would pass it along.

    Just started my 3 tbs per day yesterday. Already in a better mood. Will do some volume work on legs today and report anything unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Time to bug NP for bulk liquid fish oil with a purty flavor.

    CNW also has a stellar deal for 1000 caps.
    You guys would prefer liquid to bulk softgels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    According to LEF, using high amounts of fish oil can increase lipid peroxidation in certain pathways. They suggest, based on their data, that you also include a little bit of Sesamin and Extra Virgin Olive oil.

    I have no idea how important this really is or if it will interfere or enhance Poliquin's recommendations, but thought I would pass it along.

    Just started my 3 tbs per day yesterday. Already in a better mood. Will do some volume work on legs today and report anything unusual.
    well, I use evoo cooking, and was thinking about buying sesamin anyhow, so thats all good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    well, I use evoo cooking, and was thinking about buying sesamin anyhow, so thats all good!
    Rachel Ray would be so proud of you.

    RPN is putting together an essential fatty acid product, and with the success of the Bulk Sesathin Squirt bottle, would you use a product that you squirted into your mouth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Rachel Ray would be so proud of you.

    RPN is putting together an essential fatty acid product, and with the success of the Bulk Sesathin Squirt bottle, would you use a product that you squirted into your mouth?
    So long as the bottle wasn't black and d!ck shaped, sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    So long as the bottle wasn't black and d!ck shaped, sure
    Crap...there goes that idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    So long as the bottle wasn't black and d!ck shaped, sure
    What if it was dark brown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewilman View Post
    What if it was dark brown?
    would that be the hispanic dark brown as the 6oz bottle or the asian dark brown as the 3oz sampler?
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    Now boys, there are children present. There shouldn't be but..lol

    Anywho, Dsade, I'd like to see bulk flavored fish oil instead of caps if it gets the overall price per gram down significantly.

    You could also offer a blend option with this and add say, 10% Sesamin to the mix and we could add our own EVOO at home. The blue squirt bottles are OK, but it might be worth looking into a pump that puts out 1/2tbs amounts or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    According to LEF, using high amounts of fish oil can increase lipid peroxidation in certain pathways. They suggest, based on their data, that you also include a little bit of Sesamin and Extra Virgin Olive oil.

    I have no idea how important this really is or if it will interfere or enhance Poliquin's recommendations, but thought I would pass it along.

    Just started my 3 tbs per day yesterday. Already in a better mood. Will do some volume work on legs today and report anything unusual.
    What about Udo's Choice Oil?
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    wow that got gross for a while lmao..!
    why no mention of a white one?....****n racists bastards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewilman View Post
    What about Udo's Choice Oil?
    I bet Dsade can put something comparable yet cheaper together. But Udo's is a great brand IMO.
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    Udos does sound nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    I bet Dsade can put something comparable yet cheaper together. But Udo's is a great brand IMO.
    Do it D!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    You guys would prefer liquid to bulk softgels?
    Both!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    wow that got gross for a while lmao..!
    why no mention of a white one?....****n racists bastards!
    Keyword mega-dose, because if it was white it would only be a droppler

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Keyword mega-dose, because if it was white it would only be a droppler

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    Keyword mega-dose, because if it was white it would only be a droppler

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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    According to LEF, using high amounts of fish oil can increase lipid peroxidation in certain pathways. They suggest, based on their data, that you also include a little bit of Sesamin and Extra Virgin Olive oil.
    Can you explain what this means to me please, I do not fully understand what you are saying here?

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    for a little over a week i've also been mega dosing CNW's fish oil caps @ 30 grams a day, spread evenly over about 8 meals (excluding PWO, but again Post post) and I've just recently bumped to 45 grams. i've been back at college for the last month so dieting has been difficult, but this weekend i'm going to map out more of a structured program and push for a lil natty recomp per se. using fish oils. so far i can't say i've experienced any weight gain. though i haven't lost weight and i am eating more now that i was before i left for school... so perhaps the fish oils are helping me stay lean in that regard? i'd much prefer to test their effects with more of recomp type diet/ workout regimen. i've been trying to bulk up as clean as possible and gain lean weight, which was why i added the oils to begin with.

    but i will say that i like the added benefits of mega dosing fish oils. like others have said, the natural anti depressant properties of fish oils are astounding. i feel great all the time mood wise, despite everything going on in my life i manage to keep a happy face. 45 grams seems to be the recommended dose though, or somewhere in that vicinity methinks, so i'm going to try that out.
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    As of yesterday I started megadosing with 40g/day with caps.

    We'll see how this goes. If anything my joints could certainly use it.
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    just be prepared to change to an "oily hair" shampoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    just be prepared to change to an "oily hair" shampoo
    Lovely. Anything else I should be aware of that has not been mentioned in prior posts?
  

  
 

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