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Old 09-21-2007, 06:03 AM   #91
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So there is no health risk involved with such high dosage of fish oil, right?
Some. Really the main one is that cuts are likely to take longer to stop bleeding. thats the primary. other than that there is limited damage. Remember this is around the amount of fish oil you would get from eating 2-3 4oz salmon fillets a day. Not completely insane.

BTW quick update for me, scale is now reading 211 for the last 2 days, so a bit lower. Hard to say why, but its 2 days in a row. So that still leaves me at 12 lbs up in 19 days, which is still better than i see from most steroids/designers/ etc and at the same time my liver isn't crying in my sleep, and if anything my cholesterol should be improving....
 




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Old 09-21-2007, 06:16 AM   #92
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Some. Really the main one is that cuts are likely to take longer to stop bleeding. thats the primary. other than that there is limited damage.
i was going to ask you about this. im not taking big doses of Fish oil , but since i runned out of cycle support i increased my dose from 6 gr ED to 9.6-12 gr and i have noticed that my blood got a nice bright red color and it takes longer to coagulate and to form scabs and once the scabs are formed they can be easyly removed. i got a nose bleed 3 days ago and it hasnt healed completely. it starts healing and eveything but if i sneeze i start with the nose bleed and it takes time to heal again. i think im going to drop the fish oil a few days till my nose bleeds stop.
 



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Old 09-21-2007, 06:19 AM   #93
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i was going to ask you about this. im not taking big doses of Fish oil , but since i runned out of cycle support i increased my dose from 6 gr ED to 9.6-12 gr and i have noticed that my blood got a nice bright red color and it takes longer to coagulate and to form scabs and once the scabs are formed they can be easyly removed. i got a nose bleed 3 days ago and it hasnt healed completely. it starts healing and eveything but if i sneeze i start with the nose bleed and it takes time to heal again. i think im going to drop the fish oil a few days till my nose bleeds stop.
yeah, thats probably it as far as negatives go. Overall compared to the sides of a lot of the other stuff out there its not bad.
 




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Some. Really the main one is that cuts are likely to take longer to stop bleeding. thats the primary. other than that there is limited damage. Remember this is around the amount of fish oil you would get from eating 2-3 4oz salmon fillets a day. Not completely insane.
I see, that shouldn't be too bad. It's good for the joints as well right?
 
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I see, that shouldn't be too bad. It's good for the joints as well right?
yeah, i'm getting very nice elbow recovery times now, its probably clipped pain time in half, if not less.
 




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yeah, i'm getting very nice elbow recovery times now, its probably clipped pain time in half, if not less.
When cycling PH/PS, will mega-dosing fish oils have negative effects on the compounds?
 
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I can't think of any reason why, other than possibly from its anti inflammatory effects, but that seems to not effect muscle growth negatively. I think it could be a big plus really in that it would help to keep lipid profiles straighter.

Really I'm not sure whether I personally would take it on a cycle tho, moreso use it during PCT + time off. that way its a bridge kind of, can keep gains going potentially and help fix any cholesterol damage. I'm not sure tho really. It just would seem to be something of a waste to take it with a ph/ps, at least from what results i've gotten so far from fish oil alone.
 




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I can't think of any reason why, other than possibly from its anti inflammatory effects, but that seems to not effect muscle growth negatively. I think it could be a big plus really in that it would help to keep lipid profiles straighter.

Really I'm not sure whether I personally would take it on a cycle tho, moreso use it during post cycle therapy + time off. that way its a bridge kind of, can keep gains going potentially and help fix any cholesterol damage. I'm not sure tho really. It just would seem to be something of a waste to take it with a ph/ps, at least from what results i've gotten so far from fish oil alone.
I see, so its definitely a valuable tool during PCT. Nice!

Might need to try it out in the future.
 
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On Sept 2 at 199lbs, I started taking in 30+ g of fish oil a day.
Did you have to take a second mortgage out on your house to afford that much?

What type of fish oil do you take?
 
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E, what do your macros look like? How far above maintenance are your cals?
 



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Right now i'm taking vitamin shoppe brand in liquid, and its costing under $1/day. Custom Nutrition Warehouse (a board sponsor) has their caps at a ridiculously low price too - 1000 1g caps for $28 I think, so also under $1/day.

I think right now my macros are around 40carb/30pro/30fat workout days and 30/40/30 non workout. basically on workout days I am taking in an extra 100~150g of carbs just to survive thru GVT. Its hard to say where I am vs maintenance, since I think I have light thyroid issues and slow metabolism. my personal belief is that normal day maintenance is around 1800 or so. Right now i'm between 3600-4000 cal workout days and 3200-3600 non workout. I wouldn't normally go so high on fats, but what can I do when i'm trying to take in red meat, and taking 45g of fish oil a day? When I go to cutting it will radically change as i'll hardly take in any fat besides the fish oil, and get more of my protein from shakes, and most of my carbs from fruit.
 




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I think right now my macros are around 40carb/30pro/30fat workout days and 30/40/30 non workout. basically on workout days I am taking in an extra 100~150g of carbs just to survive thru GVT. Its hard to say where I am vs maintenance, since I think I have light thyroid issues and slow metabolism. my personal belief is that normal day maintenance is around 1800 or so. Right now i'm between 3600-4000 cal workout days and 3200-3600 non workout. .
So, do you think that the gains are due to primarily the fish oil or the double maintenance cals? Or a combination of both?
 



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of course you can't get gains without going over maintenance cals, thats basically against the laws of physics (sort of like believing that michael jackson had little boys in his bed and poured wine down their throats and then just read bedtime stories). So gaining scale weight has to come from that. But I attribute the fact that its all lean mass (i've got increased definition vs when I was 12 lbs lower) to the fish oil / incarnate / leviathan combo
 




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