The Truth About Wheat...

[JoeySon]

What's there to lose to go grain free for 2 weeks? Only a couple body fat percentages.

I never thought that I had any gluten sensitivity til I went gf and found that I had absolutely no bloat after 1 week.

YOLO, why not try it out.

You say you never knew you had an issue until you went gluten free. What prompted you to go gf? Also, what does a typical couple days look like for your diet?

[Pypp]

after tearing a nerve and being out of the gym for 6 months I focused mainly on dieting and found the paleo diet. And tried it out fora month and seen great results, and never went back

Breakfast: 2 cups Buckwheat(1 scoop of protein powder/ 1 TBS 100% Cocoa/ 1/2 banana/ dash of Cinnamon/ flax seeds/ in almond milk) 1/3 avacado

Snack: Stir fry with either chicken, beef, or lamb.

Pre-workout: Banana w/ cup of blueberries

Post-work out: BCAA, with a spinach,blueberry, protein, almond milk shake.

Dinner. Stir fry veggies with grass fed meat of choice. 1/2 avacado (or scrambled eggs with mixed veggies)

I eat at least 1 usually 2 avacados a day

I have 4-6 bowel movements a day, this is cause there is no gluten in my foods. Gluten slows down digestion for everyone, just some people cant hadle it at all. With all the bowel movements there is no bloat whatsoever. Give it a a try, seriously the only thing your gonna lose is bloat and bf %.

You say you never knew you had an issue until you went gluten free. What prompted you to go gf? Also, what does a typical couple days look like for your diet?

[ZiR RED]

First section is all about gluten and how it effects non-celliac people.

http://jasoncholewa.com/2012/07/22/p...-avoid-gluten/

I am working on an updated version to this that will specifically address wheat, the evolution of wheat from an indiginous grass to global grain, and the effects of gluten on human physiology (including PPAR activation and adiposity). That's maybe a month away, but the above first 4-5 paragraphs of that blog should give you an idea of why it might be time to avoid gluten.

Br

[ZiR RED]

after tearing a nerve and being out of the gym for 6 months I focused mainly on dieting and found the paleo diet. And tried it out fora month and seen great results, and never went back

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Similar story, I went gluten free after I broke my foot. I won't go back. I'm the opposite though: I find my bowels are more regular, compared to before when I had squirts several days a week.

[Rodja]

J Physiol Biochem. 2010 Jun;66(2):153-9. Epub 2010 Jun 1.
Gliadins induce TNFalpha production through cAMP-dependent protein kinase A activation in intestinal cells (Caco-2).

Laparra Llopis JM, Sanz Herranz Y.

Microbial Ecophysiology and Nutrition Group, Instituto de Agroquímica y Tecnología de Alimentos (CSIC), Apartado 73, 46100 Burjassot, Valencia, Spain. mlaparra@iata.csic.es
Abstract

Celiac disease is an autoimmune enteropathy caused by a permanent intolerance to gliadins. In this study the effects of two gliadin-derived peptides (PA2, PQPQLPYPQPQLP and PA9, QLQPFPQPQLPY) on TNFalpha production by intestinal epithelial cells (Caco-2) and whether these effects were related to protein kinase A (PKA) and/or -C (PKC) activities have been evaluated. Caco-2 cell cultures were challenged with several sets of gliadin peptides solutions (0.25 mg/mL), with/without different activators of PKA or PKC, bradykinin (Brdkn) and pyrrolidine dithiocarbamate (PDTC). The gliadin-derived peptides assayed represent the two major immunodominant epitopes of the peptide 33-mer of alpha-gliadin (56-88) (LQLQPFPQPQLPYPQPQLPYPQPQLPYPQ PQPF). Both peptides induced the TNFalpha production triggering the inflammatory cell responses, the PA2 being more effective. The addition of the peptides in the presence of dibutyril cyclic AMP (cAMP), Brdkn or PDTC, inhibited the TNFalpha production. The PKC-activator phorbol 12-myristate 13-diacetate additionally increased the PA2- and PA9-induced TNFalpha production. These results link the gliadin-derived peptides induced TNFalpha production through cAMP-dependent PKA activation, where ion channels controlling calcium influx into cells could play a protective role, and requires NF-kappaB activation.

PMID: 20514534

[jimbuick]

What's there to lose to go grain free for 2 weeks? Only a couple body fat percentages.

I never thought that I had any gluten sensitivity til I went gf and found that I had absolutely no bloat after 1 week.

YOLO, why not try it out.

YOLO = you oughta look out?

(Reps to the first person to catch the reference)

[Dirty Dan]

YOLO = you oughta look out?

(Reps to the first person to catch the reference)

Lonely island boys

[TexasGuy]

First section is all about gluten and how it effects non-celliac people.

http://jasoncholewa.com/2012/07/22/p...-avoid-gluten/

I am working on an updated version to this that will specifically address wheat, the evolution of wheat from an indiginous grass to global grain, and the effects of gluten on human physiology (including PPAR activation and adiposity). That's maybe a month away, but the above first 4-5 paragraphs of that blog should give you an idea of why it might be time to avoid gluten.

Br

I find your article interesting and full of a variety of information.

It's nice to see a study on gluten in a non-celiac body but I was disappointed to see study subjects suffering from inflammatory bowel disease. Do you know of any studies where gluten ingestion by healthy people has been monitored?

I personally eat gluten containing grains and while I don't notice any drawbacks, if there is a negative biological process taking place in my healthy body I would like to curb it. I just haven't seen the evidence that as a healthy individual gluten is bad for me and would appreciate any links or discussion.

Regards,

TexasGuy.

[bioman]

Currently contemplating the Paleo diet, so this is good schtuff, mang.

[EatLiftGrow]

after tearing a nerve and being out of the gym for 6 months I focused mainly on dieting and found the paleo diet. And tried it out fora month and seen great results, and never went back

Breakfast: 2 cups Buckwheat(1 scoop of protein powder/ 1 TBS 100% Cocoa/ 1/2 banana/ dash of Cinnamon/ flax seeds/ in almond milk) 1/3 avacado

Snack: Stir fry with either chicken, beef, or lamb.

Pre-workout: Banana w/ cup of blueberries

Post-work out: BCAA, with a spinach,blueberry, protein, almond milk shake.

Dinner. Stir fry veggies with grass fed meat of choice. 1/2 avacado (or scrambled eggs with mixed veggies)

I eat at least 1 usually 2 avacados a day

I have 4-6 bowel movements a day, this is cause there is no gluten in my foods. Gluten slows down digestion for everyone, just some people cant hadle it at all. With all the bowel movements there is no bloat whatsoever. Give it a a try, seriously the only thing your gonna lose is bloat and bf %.

Not to hijack the thread but I eat a fair amount of gluten a day (whole grain breads, begal, and etc.) and still have at least 4 bowel movements a day. Does gluten just not affect my digestion? Do I have a fast or slow metabolism? Or is there possibly and underlying problem?

[JoeySon]

Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not

[ZiR RED]

I find your article interesting and full of a variety of information.

It's nice to see a study on gluten in a non-celiac body but I was dissapointed to see study subjects suffering from inflammatory bowel disease. Do you know of any studies where gluten ingestion by healthy people has been monitored?

I personally eat gluten containing grains and while I don't notice any drawbacks, if there is a negative biological process taking place in my healthy body I would like to curb it. I just haven't seen the evidence that as a healthy individual gluten is bad for me and would appreciate any links or discussion.

Regards,

TexasGuy.

Hard to find things in healthy humans, as a lot of the measures would be invasive.

In mice a gluten-free diet of equal caloric consumption led to (both designed to induce obesity) led to lower fat gain, inflammation, and a greater degree of PPAR activation and insulin sensitivity. And thats in an animal that evolved to eat grains, so its hard to deduce how that might translate to humans.

[Rodja]

Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not

Potatoes are intermittently allowed on Paleo for refeeds. The reason milk isn't Paleo is due to the lactose, high incidence of adult on-set allergy to casein, and the fact that humans are the only animal to continue to consume milk post weening.

[JudoJosh]

Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not

The idea of "paleo" is surrounded by dogma and is kinda cultish at times. The only thing that is really avoided by all paleo variations is beans and wheat. Milk, cheess, potatoes, rice etc are kind of grey area and up to the individual.

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[jimbuick]

The idea of "paleo" is surrounded by dogma and is kinda cultish at times. The only thing that is really avoided by all paleo variations is beans and wheat. Milk, cheess, potatoes, rice etc are kind of grey area and up to the individual.

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Why beans?

[bioman]

Yeah, i should have said "modified paleo"..ie avoiding most grains, most of the time. Beans i will be keeping along with cheese and yoghurt. Leave my cheese alone, or I will hurt someone

All "diets" get cultish after awhile. Basically, people keep re-inventing the BBing lifestyle as re-packaging as something new and awesome. There is some newer, interesting data on grains and inflammation so I'd like to go grainless for awhile and see if it resolves my inflammation issues....but I'm not joining a cult unless there are tons of hot chicks who worship me based on my grainlessness.

[JudoJosh]

Beans contain anti-nutrients (phytates and lectins) which steal minerals minerals from the body. Also there is a risk of intestinal damage (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0000687) plus a likeyhood of altering gut flora which will comprimise overall health. We also see a small connection betwenn lectin consumption and lepitin resistance ( http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6823/5/10)

However if you are really determined to get beans, soaking them overnight has been shown to be helpful in removing the lectin http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...40100220137655 but I say why bother with them. Their nutrient content honestly isn't all that too impressive g for g with other choices.

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[Rodja]

The idea of "paleo" is surrounded by dogma and is kinda cultish at times. The only thing that is really avoided by all paleo variations is beans and wheat. Milk, cheess, potatoes, rice etc are kind of grey area and up to the individual.

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This is why I promote more of the Primal approach instead of strict Paleo because, as you said, it gets far too dogmatic and anal.

I personally use whey, but not much casein and/or milk as it does make me bloat. I still love the taste, but I look like I ate a football for the rest of the day.

[Jiigzz]

Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not

I didn't think I could drop milk from my diet; considering I used to drink 1.6 litres of milk per day so instead I just swapped it for lactose free;
I didnt think I had bloat before but now I notice a HUGE difference.

[ZiR RED]

I really hate the term paleo, especially now that it is also highly associated with crossfit.

The truth is humans living in the upper and lower paleolithic era collected and consumed indigenous grains (including wheat in some areas) and beans. Additionally, early humans derived a good 30-40% of their calories from starch in the form of tubers: starchy roots.

I really prefer the term "minimally processed fresh food"...which by its nature cuts out most grains and processed tubers. Starches and carbohydrates come from fruits, vegetables, and some tubers. In that same nature, you can select your dairy. American cheese is highly processed, while cheddar is minimally. Greek yogurt > regular yogurt, etc. Same with meats, vegetables, on and on.

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