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Looking for an open discussion on wheat. Seems like a topic often debated and was just seeking opinions. I eat a ton of wheat with breads, pastas, cereals, ect
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Bingo. People make nutrition too hard. Whole grains are good. If you notice they upset the GI or make you bloated or lethargic, don't eat them. Eat something else. If not, they supply some good nutrition. I'm not saying eat a whole loaf of 100% whole wheat bread, but if you like it, nothing wrong with it.I could care less about studies saying its good/bad. Lean meats, whole grains, and healthy fats are a staple of my diet. I was raised on it and I shall continue.
For the most part I do the same, although I will eat an occasional whole wheat wrap or whole wheat english muffin if they are in the house.As far as bread is concerned I tend to only eat sprouted wheat bread or ezekiel bread.
Whole grain doesn't have any particular meaning and not all grains contain gluten (e.g. rice, buckwheat).Bingo. People make nutrition too hard. Whole grains are good. If you notice they upset the GI or make you bloated or lethargic, don't eat them. Eat something else. If not, they supply some good nutrition. I'm not saying eat a whole loaf of 100% whole wheat bread, but if you like it, nothing wrong with it.
Isnt it just a gimic companies came up with to sell more "healthier" foods.? I believe there isnt much criteria behind what exactly whole grain is defined asWhole grain doesn't have any particular meaning and not all grains contain gluten (e.g. rice, buckwheat).
Bingo.Isnt it just a gimic companies came up with to sell more "healthier" foods.? I believe there isnt much criteria behind what exactly whole grain is defined as
I thought whole wheat was really the grey area, while whole grain actually had to be the entire grain? I know some whole wheat products are really no different than processed white productsBingo.
Well, corn is technically a grain and that **** is dirty.I thought whole wheat was really the grey area, while whole grain actually had to be the entire grain? I know some whole wheat products are really no different than processed white products
As far as bread is concerned I tend to only eat sprouted wheat bread or ezekiel bread.
FixedWell, corn is technically a grain and that **** is delicious
You say you never knew you had an issue until you went gluten free. What prompted you to go gf? Also, what does a typical couple days look like for your diet?What's there to lose to go grain free for 2 weeks? Only a couple body fat percentages.
I never thought that I had any gluten sensitivity til I went gf and found that I had absolutely no bloat after 1 week.
YOLO, why not try it out.
You say you never knew you had an issue until you went gluten free. What prompted you to go gf? Also, what does a typical couple days look like for your diet?
Similar story, I went gluten free after I broke my foot. I won't go back. I'm the opposite though: I find my bowels are more regular, compared to before when I had squirts several days a week.after tearing a nerve and being out of the gym for 6 months I focused mainly on dieting and found the paleo diet. And tried it out fora month and seen great results, and never went back
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YOLO = you oughta look out?What's there to lose to go grain free for 2 weeks? Only a couple body fat percentages.
I never thought that I had any gluten sensitivity til I went gf and found that I had absolutely no bloat after 1 week.
YOLO, why not try it out.
I find your article interesting and full of a variety of information.First section is all about gluten and how it effects non-celliac people.
http://jasoncholewa.com/2012/07/22/purple-potato-starch-for-health-and-performance-and-why-we-should-avoid-gluten/
I am working on an updated version to this that will specifically address wheat, the evolution of wheat from an indiginous grass to global grain, and the effects of gluten on human physiology (including PPAR activation and adiposity). That's maybe a month away, but the above first 4-5 paragraphs of that blog should give you an idea of why it might be time to avoid gluten.
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Not to hijack the thread but I eat a fair amount of gluten a day (whole grain breads, begal, and etc.) and still have at least 4 bowel movements a day. Does gluten just not affect my digestion? Do I have a fast or slow metabolism? Or is there possibly and underlying problem?after tearing a nerve and being out of the gym for 6 months I focused mainly on dieting and found the paleo diet. And tried it out fora month and seen great results, and never went back
Breakfast: 2 cups Buckwheat(1 scoop of protein powder/ 1 TBS 100% Cocoa/ 1/2 banana/ dash of Cinnamon/ flax seeds/ in almond milk) 1/3 avacado
Snack: Stir fry with either chicken, beef, or lamb.
Pre-workout: Banana w/ cup of blueberries
Post-work out: BCAA, with a spinach,blueberry, protein, almond milk shake.
Dinner. Stir fry veggies with grass fed meat of choice. 1/2 avacado (or scrambled eggs with mixed veggies)
I eat at least 1 usually 2 avacados a day
I have 4-6 bowel movements a day, this is cause there is no gluten in my foods. Gluten slows down digestion for everyone, just some people cant hadle it at all. With all the bowel movements there is no bloat whatsoever. Give it a a try, seriously the only thing your gonna lose is bloat and bf %.
Hard to find things in healthy humans, as a lot of the measures would be invasive.I find your article interesting and full of a variety of information.
It's nice to see a study on gluten in a non-celiac body but I was dissapointed to see study subjects suffering from inflammatory bowel disease. Do you know of any studies where gluten ingestion by healthy people has been monitored?
I personally eat gluten containing grains and while I don't notice any drawbacks, if there is a negative biological process taking place in my healthy body I would like to curb it. I just haven't seen the evidence that as a healthy individual gluten is bad for me and would appreciate any links or discussion.
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TexasGuy.
Potatoes are intermittently allowed on Paleo for refeeds. The reason milk isn't Paleo is due to the lactose, high incidence of adult on-set allergy to casein, and the fact that humans are the only animal to continue to consume milk post weening.Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not
The idea of "paleo" is surrounded by dogma and is kinda cultish at times. The only thing that is really avoided by all paleo variations is beans and wheat. Milk, cheess, potatoes, rice etc are kind of grey area and up to the individual.Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not
Why beans?The idea of "paleo" is surrounded by dogma and is kinda cultish at times. The only thing that is really avoided by all paleo variations is beans and wheat. Milk, cheess, potatoes, rice etc are kind of grey area and up to the individual.
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This is why I promote more of the Primal approach instead of strict Paleo because, as you said, it gets far too dogmatic and anal.The idea of "paleo" is surrounded by dogma and is kinda cultish at times. The only thing that is really avoided by all paleo variations is beans and wheat. Milk, cheess, potatoes, rice etc are kind of grey area and up to the individual.
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I didn't think I could drop milk from my diet; considering I used to drink 1.6 litres of milk per day so instead I just swapped it for lactose free;Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Paleo diet exclude all carbs outside of fruits and veg? I don't think I would have a problem going gluten-free but I don't think I could give up my milk. Unless milk has gluten lol it's a little confusing what's allowed and what's not
I really hate the term paleo, especially now that it is also highly associated with crossfit.
The truth is humans living in the upper and lower paleolithic era collected and consumed indigenous grains (including wheat in some areas) and beans. Additionally, early humans derived a good 30-40% of their calories from starch in the form of tubers: starchy roots.
I really prefer the term "minimally processed fresh food"...which by its nature cuts out most grains and processed tubers. Starches and carbohydrates come from fruits, vegetables, and some tubers. In that same nature, you can select your dairy. American cheese is highly processed, while cheddar is minimally. Greek yogurt > regular yogurt, etc. Same with meats, vegetables, on and on.
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I thank you sir for you continually dropping knowledge! I wish i had more time to frequent the board and read/study your posts.I really hate the term paleo, especially now that it is also highly associated with crossfit.
The truth is humans living in the upper and lower paleolithic era collected and consumed indigenous grains (including wheat in some areas) and beans. Additionally, early humans derived a good 30-40% of their calories from starch in the form of tubers: starchy roots.
I really prefer the term "minimally processed fresh food"...which by its nature cuts out most grains and processed tubers. Starches and carbohydrates come from fruits, vegetables, and some tubers. In that same nature, you can select your dairy. American cheese is highly processed, while cheddar is minimally. Greek yogurt > regular yogurt, etc. Same with meats, vegetables, on and on.
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It is actually a very good article with solid research to back it up; def worth a read.Just in case you guys haven't seen it Jason (ZirRed) new in depth article on gluten.
http://jasoncholewa.com/2013/02/08/early-humans-wheat-cultivation-and-your-health/
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Ate wheat for a long time(30+ years) I started to develop stomach problems later in life. I was geting sick more often blood sugar all over the place.Looking for an open discussion on wheat. Seems like a topic often debated and was just seeking opinions. I eat a ton of wheat with breads, pastas, cereals, ect
Wheat today is significantly genetically modified when compared to wheat from before the agricultural revolutionI agree with many of the posts here related to wheat (in general) as I have experienced the "bads" discussed here.
However, I will add that Ezekial Bread anbd Trader Joes Sprouted Grains bread do NOT affect me the same at all.
Why is this?
Let's face it, at the end of the day, there is only a slight difference between traditional wheat and spouted forms of wheat.
Your story is becoming extremely common and helps to further the base of anecdotal support for ditching gluten.Ate wheat for a long time(30+ years) I started to develop stomach problems later in life. I was geting sick more often blood sugar all over the place.
Without wheat, and basically no grains, no stomach problems anymore and I have not been sick since, no cold, no virus no anything for a good 4 years now and im positive i was exposed to them numerous times at work. My body works like a swiss watch now.
and that;s my story
Wheat today is significantly genetically modified when compared to wheat from before the agricultural revolution
Yes on infertility with deficiency.More info on sprouted wheat... I eat it on a regular basis. I buy wheat grains in order to sprout them at home. Sprouted wheat tastes pretty well.
Vitamin E is stored in the muscles, and, unfortunately, it is rapidly degraded and excreted. Thus, in order to provide the body with this vitamin, you must at all times maintain a balanced diet.
Lack of this vitamin leads to infertility and miscarriages. If children are born, they are backward and have poor immunity.
For those who are interested, I will say that this vitamin in large amounts is found in celery and sprouted wheat.
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