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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1
    everyone knows "that guy" but doesn't mean that you will know him in 10 years...Unhealthy eating may not be "visible" to the naked eye but trust me its not going to last his whole life. just worry about YOU and eat well. Check on your buddy in a decade or so and see if he still feels the same way.
    I agree. Loading a ton of crap is bad. But moderation is key.
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    Two words - Jersey Shore

    They eat like sh*t, smoke, drink & std's!

    Yet ridiculous gains for a few of them ... all natty
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB12
    Two words - Jersey Shore

    They eat like sh*t, smoke, drink & std's!

    Yet ridiculous gains for a few of them ... all natty
    Wonder how it's done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Wonder how it's done?
    Insane amounts of anabolics? lol
    No idea... genetics? I'd sure like to know lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Insane amounts of anabolics? lol
    No idea... genetics? I'd sure like to know lol.
    Damn str8 me 2
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    I ate fast food for my past 5 meals. One day last week I ate at DD for Breakfast, BK for lunch, MCD for second lunch, checkers for dinner, and Wendys for a snack . LOL! I eat like this all the time. I eat healthy the weight seems to come off very quickly though. I had a few days where I took in over 15,000 calories. When it gets to that point though I get a little sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xGenericx
    I ate fast food for my past 5 meals. One day last week I ate at DD for Breakfast, BK for lunch, MCD for second lunch, checkers for dinner, and Wendys for a snack . LOL! I eat like this all the time. I eat healthy the weight seems to come off very quickly though. I had a few days where I took in over 15,000 calories. When it gets to that point though I get a little sick.
    How's your body comp after this?
    How long/often u eat fast food?
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    I seem to get larger. I eat fast food every day. Most of my food is fast food. I'm not talking salad either. Burgers, burgers, chicken and fries, more burgers, pizza, more chicken and fries, soda, coffee, ice cream, add in some bacon strips, burger cheese, and more bacon strips. Just doesn't seem to cause me to gain much fat, though I am putting on some fluff, its mostly due to being inconsistent with my workouts and not alot of fluff when you add in how much muscle I've put on- which I'm pretty sure would've been there even if I ate clean. I'm at about 15%bf right now. Last year I was at 182 10% bf. Thats not really that bad with how much crap I eat. If I were to do HIT I'm pretty sure eating junk food wouldn't affect me at all. Fast food is my Diet, I know its not healthy, but I also don't think its as bad as alot of people make it out to be. I do think all of the sugar I take in is bad though. Name:  article-1290590333835-0C338663000005DC-783913_636x355.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by xGenericx
    I seem to get larger. I eat fast food every day. Most of my food is fast food. I'm not talking salad either. Burgers, burgers, chicken and fries, more burgers, pizza, more chicken and fries, soda, coffee, ice cream, add in some bacon strips, burger cheese, and more bacon strips. Just doesn't seem to cause me to gain much fat, though I am putting on some fluff, its mostly due to being inconsistent with my workouts and not alot of fluff when you add in how much muscle I've put on- which I'm pretty sure would've been there even if I ate clean. I'm at about 15%bf right now. Last year I was at 182 10% bf. Thats not really that bad with how much crap I eat. If I were to do HIT I'm pretty sure eating junk food wouldn't affect me at all. Fast food is my Diet, I know its not healthy, but I also don't think its as bad as alot of people make it out to be. I do think all of the sugar I take in is bad though. <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51 667"/>
    I see...
    Yeah I think if I hit the cardio up more I'll be str8.

    I hardly ever do cardio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I see...
    Yeah I think if I hit the cardio up more I'll be str8.

    I hardly ever do cardio.
    Yeah, I can't even remember the last time I did it. I should probably get on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Damn str8 me 2
    Its from the fist pumping. Its a great workout!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickmort

    Its from the fist pumping. Its a great workout!
    Lol. Any fist pumpers out at the bar when I'm there just end up with black eyes. No muscles to show for it.
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    I'm have a chicken Philly today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB12
    Two words - Jersey Shore

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    This should have its own thread. Im sure anyone who watches the show has to wonder how the hell do they look like that with their lifestyle ?!?! I'm not overweight by any means but if I just as much look at a bag of chips it just adds to the battle of the belly buldge !! I hate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flexappeal

    This should have its own thread. Im sure anyone who watches the show has to wonder how the hell do they look like that with their lifestyle ?!?! I'm not overweight by any means but if I just as much look at a bag of chips it just adds to the battle of the belly buldge !! I hate it!
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    I guess I will start it! Lol
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    everyone knows "a guy" who has an insane metab. or just is genetically blessed to be able to basically "cheat" his way to the top. Just understand it's all relevant. Do you want to have a heart attack at 35? Have diabetes at 40? Heart surgery at 50? His body may appear "fit" but trust me you open him up and his blood work won't match his looks. Do it the right way if you want to be around for your kids to see you working out. It's about health not about "looks"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I know a guy who eats junk, eating out at mcdonalds, chick Fil a, &amp; so on. Has a good amount of muscle and not a lot of fat.
    He says he just tracks his macros and works out hard.

    I don't get how that works for him, is it genetics?
    Is it really him watching his macros? (it may not be healthy food but it works)
    I hate to admit this, but this is me, I have always had a crazy metabolism, could eat as much of anything I want, and still be ripped. Everyone hates me for it, but truth is, its a curse, in its own way, because It makes me believe I don't need cardio (Obviously everyone does) I only recently started really focusing on eating right, because I want to see how far I can get doing EVERYTHING right, and not just lifting right.


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    I've been eating a lot of junk lately
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    The concept you guys are talking about really isn't unheard of or bizarre...the idea of "if it fits your macros" is popular on a lot of nutrition forums. In the long-term I think it tends to be a bit of a crutch because the **** in most processed foods/fast foods (**** that doesn't even have caloric impact, mind you) honestly cannot be good for you (McDonalds just released that announcement that "pink slime" is officially no longer in their products).

    When I'm cutting, I keep my diet very "clean" in the sense that all of my food sources are meticulously documented, weighed, and usually prepared by me, because I want to be in control of every calorie that goes into my body.

    Buuutttt whenever I'm bulking, I definitely follow the "if it fits your macros" type of diet. I haven't eaten fast food in probably 5 years, everything I eat is bought from a grocery store, but not everything is considered "great" for you. For instance, when I'm bulking my main focus is on large amounts of carbohydrates because I usually gain best off of those. What are my favorite sources? Kids breakfast cereal (Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Reese's Puffs are favorites) and low-fat ice cream (Edy's Slow-Churned Variety...mouthgasm)
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    Boy, I wish.

    I have to weight my food, count everything and work my ass off just to not put on lbs of fat.

    Thanks genetics and a semi-obese childhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55
    Boy, I wish.

    I have to weight my food, count everything and work my ass off just to not put on lbs of fat.

    Thanks genetics and a semi-obese childhood.
    That sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    That sucks
    Tell me about it... I was like 240lbs at 6'2'' when I was 14-15, NOT of muscle either. Till this day that haunts me as anything out of the norm puts extra weight on me.

    I eat around 3600 calories when BULKING, and I'm 225.

    Anytime I have vacations, say, for a week or two, and I go out of my eating habits by eating out - even when I try to eat "healthy" - at the end of two weeks I more often than not put on about 4 - 8lbs.

    SUCKS. Big time. The only "upside" is that bulks are a cake. I grow like crazy and pack on muscle at an insane rate. Problem with that is, I also often pack a whole, whole lot more of fat than I would like.

    But hey, that's life, everyone has to fight their personal battle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55

    Tell me about it... I was like 240lbs at 6'2'' when I was 14-15, NOT of muscle either. Till this day that haunts me as anything out of the norm puts extra weight on me.

    I eat around 3600 calories when BULKING, and I'm 225.

    Anytime I have vacations, say, for a week or two, and I go out of my eating habits by eating out - even when I try to eat "healthy" - at the end of two weeks I more often than not put on about 4 - 8lbs.

    SUCKS. Big time. The only "upside" is that bulks are a cake. I grow like crazy and pack on muscle at an insane rate. Problem with that is, I also often pack a whole, whole lot more of fat than I would like.

    But hey, that's life, everyone has to fight their personal battle!
    That last statement is so true. Everyone has their curse. Beating It is the way to success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The "BB'ng" mentality leads people to think that you cannot make quality gains in strength or mass without adhering to a certain group of foods PLers will tell you the exact opposite and that you need to throw in a high amount of non-clean foods to makes those gains. In the end, performance nutrition depends on the goal of the athlete and whether or not health is the number one priority.
    unfortunately most "bb'ng" mentalities are based on current myths and hand me down thought processes.....although i do eat salmon, tilapia, chicken, lean beef, wheat and grain products, fruits and veggies, i do eat lean pockets, chik fil a, ice cream, tons of starchy carbs, cereal by the box full, cheap frozen pizza's, etc...i seem to maintain body fat by monitoring calories, intense training, and little things like 10-15 min warm up cardio...now when i diet down i will be more "health" cautious
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    IIFYM....


    There's a website for that lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Boy, I wish.

    I have to weight my food, count everything and work my ass off just to not put on lbs of fat.

    Thanks genetics and a semi-obese childhood.
    I'm in the same boat as you. Though, if you're anything like me, the flip side of it is that you pack on muscle fairly easily. It's a pain in the ass for me to drop fat, but I don't really lose a lot of muscle or strength in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Tell me about it... I was like 240lbs at 6'2'' when I was 14-15, NOT of muscle either. Till this day that haunts me as anything out of the norm puts extra weight on me.

    I eat around 3600 calories when BULKING, and I'm 225.

    Anytime I have vacations, say, for a week or two, and I go out of my eating habits by eating out - even when I try to eat "healthy" - at the end of two weeks I more often than not put on about 4 - 8lbs.

    SUCKS. Big time. The only "upside" is that bulks are a cake. I grow like crazy and pack on muscle at an insane rate. Problem with that is, I also often pack a whole, whole lot more of fat than I would like.

    But hey, that's life, everyone has to fight their personal battle!

    I feel your pain!! I was a SKINNY kid, but around late elementary/early middle school I got FAT, around 210 at about 5'8? .. It still haunts me, I gain muscle pretty easily, so I wonder what I would've been like without these extra fat cells... if I could gain muscle this easy without having to diet so much I could be really ****ing big.... I've thought about getting some lipo done to permanently remove some of these fat cells, but I don't know if I will or not... sure would be good to bulk longer and cut less...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Tell me about it... I was like 240lbs at 6'2'' when I was 14-15, NOT of muscle either. Till this day that haunts me as anything out of the norm puts extra weight on me.

    I eat around 3600 calories when BULKING, and I'm 225.

    Anytime I have vacations, say, for a week or two, and I go out of my eating habits by eating out - even when I try to eat "healthy" - at the end of two weeks I more often than not put on about 4 - 8lbs.

    SUCKS. Big time. The only "upside" is that bulks are a cake. I grow like crazy and pack on muscle at an insane rate. Problem with that is, I also often pack a whole, whole lot more of fat than I would like.

    But hey, that's life, everyone has to fight their personal battle!
    Same boat; I'm pure endomorph that way.

    I can add strength in caloric deficit, which is good because if I wander into caloric surplus...BOOM. I have to keep a serious handle on my carb macro count; I rarely go over 125g on a non-refeed training day, and for me they have to be clean carb sources.
    Don't worry, man, someday I'ma be nobody too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1
    IIFYM.
    What does this mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfahardon View Post
    What does this mean?
    If It Fits Your Macros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja
    If It Fits Your Macros
    Oh LOL.. is it true that if it fits your macros you can eat donuts and pizza all day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfahardon View Post
    Oh LOL.. is it true that if it fits your macros you can eat donuts and pizza all day?
    There are some that firmly believe that this is the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfahardon

    Oh LOL.. is it true that if it fits your macros you can eat donuts and pizza all day?
    Some people can, some people can not.
    From a health standpoint it is not wise. From body comp, you'll hear 50/50 debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    There are some that firmly believe that this is the case.
    Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta

    Do you?

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    It would feel to much like a dirty bulk for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta
    It would feel to much like a dirty bulk for me.

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    I'm not the leanest around, that's not my goal as of yet (to be super shredded), I'm just trying to drop body fat levels. I try and keep a solid diet, not to over do carbs, make sure I get enough protein... But when it's time to enjoy life I don't hold back.... I just don't over do it.
    Or if I know a nice dinner is coming up @ night that may involve some brews, fries, what ever I'll watch what I eat during the day.
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