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    Your over thinking this, just eat and see what works for you. Also the 30g at a time rule is broscience man. Your body will absorb whatever you put into it. Will anything more then 1g per lb of bodyweight do much for you gains? No body knows but I love meat so I eat as much as I want. Ive still gained 30lbs in about 10-11 monthes with about no fat gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    chik-fil-a is my favorite of all time....even as a little kid we'd go to the mall and eat there....still to this day I love it....i usually get the original chicken sandwich and a box of nuggets....again high protein choices....the one by my house is in this HUGE mall so you have to park and go inside the food court...not my thing....and the drive-thru is about 20 minutes drive one way for me, and whats worse is that at the drive-thru place it never tastes right. they are newly opened and seem to fuq up the food if that is possible. but they do it...... the mall always got it right...
    I normally get 2 grilled chicken clubs, 70g protein, 70g carbs 8-9g fiber i believe, and about 30g fats. Hellll yeaaaaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    So what do you eat?
    Depends on my goals at the time. When I am really seeking gains in strength, I eat whatever I desire at that time, but keep it clean ~80% of the time. When I'm focusing on conditioning and taking off some fat, I eat 100% Primal. Today falls into that category and I ate:

    Meal 1:
    10 oz chicken
    12 oz red potatoes
    Spinach salad

    Train
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    10g BCAA, 3.2g BA
    Intra:
    15g MAP, 1.6g BA
    Post:
    Greek Yogurt
    Banana

    Meal 2:
    8 oz Salmon
    Roma Tomato
    Bacon
    Spinach

    Meal 3:
    10 oz chicken
    Spinach

    That's it so far and have another meal or two to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Depends on my goals at the time. When I am really seeking gains in strength, I eat whatever I desire at that time, but keep it clean ~80% of the time. When I'm focusing on conditioning and taking off some fat, I eat 100% Primal. Today falls into that category and I ate:

    Meal 1:
    10 oz chicken
    12 oz red potatoes
    Spinach salad

    Train
    Pre-WO:
    10g BCAA, 3.2g BA
    Intra:
    15g MAP, 1.6g BA
    Post:
    Greek Yogurt
    Banana

    Meal 2:
    8 oz Salmon
    Roma Tomato
    Bacon
    Spinach

    Meal 3:
    10 oz chicken
    Spinach

    That's it so far and have another meal or two to go.
    you must not have to work, and have time to cook and eat all day. Or maybe you work for food network? in that case you'd be at work and be cooking all day at the same time. If so say hi to giada and rachael for me, I watch them and never even know WTF they cooked that show.
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    Thats how I eat when I eat clean too^

    except a lot more taters haha. I havent tried cut tho in over a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    you must not have to work, and have time to cook and eat all day. Or maybe you work for food network? in that case you'd be at work and be cooking all day at the same time. If so say hi to giada and rachael for me, I watch them and never even know WTF they cooked that show.
    Maybe your just lazy and dont know how to cook in bulk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Maybe your just lazy and dont know how to cook in bulk?
    I do NOT like to cook in bulk....I prefer things to be freshly cooked...so sue me......
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    you must not have to work, and have time to cook and eat all day. Or maybe you work for food network? in that case you'd be at work and be cooking all day at the same time. If so say hi to giada and rachael for me, I watch them and never even know WTF they cooked that show.
    Or it's a Sunday and I'm off. Regardless, I eat like this pretty much year-round and cooking daily is something I've done for a decade.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Thats how I eat when I eat clean too^

    except a lot more taters haha. I havent tried cut tho in over a year.
    I ate a lot of crap yesterday and had plenty in the glycogen stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I do NOT like to cook in bulk....I prefer things to be freshly cooked...so sue me......
    haha so dont assume everyone else has a problem with it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Or it's a Sunday and I'm off. Regardless, I eat like this pretty much year-round and cooking daily is something I've done for a decade.



    I ate a lot of crap yesterday and had plenty in the glycogen stores.
    yeah I'm off sunday and monday.....and saturday too if there is college football and/or I am taking classes....So I tend to be able to cook those days....I CAN cook.....but man I hate it.....
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    Hey hey guys....

    All you guys have great theories...

    You're right Lou, makes sense the body absorbs what ever u put into it...

    Rodja? U got 2 more meals and it's 11:54?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Hey hey guys....

    All you guys have great theories...

    You're right Lou, makes sense the body absorbs what ever u put into it...

    Rodja? U got 2 more meals and it's 11:54?
    must be a "west coaster"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Or it's a Sunday and I'm off. Regardless, I eat like this pretty much year-round and cooking daily is something I've done for a decade.



    I ate a lot of crap yesterday and had plenty in the glycogen stores.
    Mine are always full haha. How are your strenght gains btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Hey hey guys....

    All you guys have great theories...

    You're right Lou, makes sense the body absorbs what ever u put into it...

    Rodja? U got 2 more meals and it's 11:54?
    I'm not on EST and I slept in until 11AM today. I have to load up for tomorrow night's sparring and I'm bringing the Prowler out of hibernation as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    must be a "west coaster"
    TX born and raised.

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Mine are always full haha. How are your strenght gains btw?
    Freaking terrible right now. Got into a car wreck and it exacerbated my lumbar issues. That coupled with a lot of MMA has tanked the strength levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    TX born and raised.



    Freaking terrible right now. Got into a car wreck and it exacerbated my lumbar issues. That coupled with a lot of MMA has tanked the strength levels.
    Wow dude! Sorry to hear about your accident! Take care in the holidays and be safe!
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    many nights I end up staying up until 2AM (eastern).....so I get in an extra feeding or two later in the night my own self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    I'm not on EST and I slept in until 11AM today. I have to load up for tomorrow night's sparring and I'm bringing the Prowler out of hibernation as well.
    I seen the avi of u over at PP....

    Are we talking Plymouth Prowler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I seen the avi of u over at PP....

    Are we talking Plymouth Prowler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

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    A Plymouth Prowler is a bit more cooler, just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    TX born and raised.



    Freaking terrible right now. Got into a car wreck and it exacerbated my lumbar issues. That coupled with a lot of MMA has tanked the strength levels.
    Im sorry to hear that man. I hope you heal up nicely and get back on track. Any meets or comps coming up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Im sorry to hear that man. I hope you heal up nicely and get back on track. Any meets or comps coming up?
    Nothing right now. I need to check out the TX schedule and see if anything peaks my interest.
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    no prowler.....but here are two of my cars....other is a '01 celica GT....nothing really to see there, good on gas mileage lol....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    no prowler.....but here are two of my cars....other is a '01 celica GT....nothing really to see there, good on gas mileage lol....
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    U got a Vette? Nice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    U got a Vette? Nice...
    GM man I see
    just bought it a few months ago....saved up for almost 2 years.....no exotic supps, just basic stuff....no fun, no girls no nothing lol. its worth it not to have any car payment. suffer for a while and pay cash. I'm gonna sell the TransAm if I get the right price....its highly modified and will take a specific buyer who is interested in a loud fast car....not a stock WS6. If nobody gives me my price? i'll keep it.
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    that is my white celica hiding behind the vette in the first pic lol.....i took those pics at the dealership right before I picked it up, so my celica was there....since I drove it there lol. just noticed that........
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    that is my white celica hiding behind the vette in the first pic lol.....i took those pics at the dealership right before I picked it up, so my celica was there....since I drove it there lol. just noticed that........
    is it just me or is aaron getting on everyones nerves?

    one more dumb post to me in PM, and im reporting him..........dude seriously needs to grow up...........seriously

    back to the topic.........you can eat junk if you have good genetics......its why many bodybuilders like lee preist get sloppy(20%) in the offseason and all he does is clean up his diet and he looks freaky come stage time..........its all about what your body can handle
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    Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    is it just me or is aaron getting on everyones nerves?

    one more dumb post to me in PM, and im reporting him..........dude seriously needs to grow up...........seriously

    back to the topic.........you can eat junk if you have good genetics......its why many bodybuilders like lee preist get sloppy(20%) in the offseason and all he does is clean up his diet and he looks freaky come stage time..........its all about what your body can handle
    you and aaron beefin' again? I gotta get you two to like each other, if its the last thing I do. OK maybe that is impossible......
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    you and aaron beefin' again? I gotta get you two to like each other, if its the last thing I do. OK maybe that is impossible......
    i seriously dont know what his deal is.......

    this is a fair warning.........my homeboys will find his IP addy, where he lives, where his parents live, where he goes to school.........

    im not in the mood for this **** right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by PVL View Post
    i seriously dont know what his deal is.......

    this is a fair warning.........my homeboys will find his IP addy, where he lives, where his parents live, where he goes to school.........

    im not in the mood for this **** right now
    just chill out, its only the internet. not worth getting too excited about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    just chill out, its only the internet. not worth getting too excited about.
    look dude, im a g, always been.........i keep my **** on the low for the internet kiddies..........

    but dont make me bring the old drake back man.............THEY BE OVER WITH.........dont tempt me
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    Quick comments. I typed up a response and the am app crashed. Go figure. I think the body is more inclined to use a given amount of calories to build muscle instead of fat at a higher bf than a lower. I like to sit around 12-15 and eat maint. I feel I grow the most like that.

    Also , "junk food" may provide more carbs/fats which in the short and long run may provide the energy needed in the gym. If your active all day you need a lot more carbs than someone who sits at a desk all day. A lot of people eat too clean and have a meal with all protein and no carbs. I noticed when I go too light on carbs and have no energy. The extra energy in the gym def helps in the workout and the better workouts build more muscle. So maybe someone is eating at maintenance calories. And the quality of food may not be the best but there is enough there and enough hard work to have good results at the gym. But I truly believe that a perfect diet is the key to that next level of physique. You can only get so big and so strong, until a change in diet is the only thing that would benefit you.

    Anyways nice Celi.
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    My bro really liked celicas. Had two. He's building an mr2 now tho.
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    PVL, don't come here and wreck this thread man. I'll notify a mod.

    BTW, quick asking fellow board members for free supplements and rep spots & stop trying to befriend them by following logs when all you're after is free product.

    You've been reported more than once man, now just chill out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryLiftin
    Quick comments. I typed up a response and the am app crashed. Go figure. I think the body is more inclined to use a given amount of calories to build muscle instead of fat at a higher bf than a lower. I like to sit around 12-15 and eat maint. I feel I grow the most like that.

    Also , "junk food" may provide more carbs/fats which in the short and long run may provide the energy needed in the gym. If your active all day you need a lot more carbs than someone who sits at a desk all day. A lot of people eat too clean and have a meal with all protein and no carbs. I noticed when I go too light on carbs and have no energy. The extra energy in the gym def helps in the workout and the better workouts build more muscle. So maybe someone is eating at maintenance calories. And the quality of food may not be the best but there is enough there and enough hard work to have good results at the gym. But I truly believe that a perfect diet is the key to that next level of physique. You can only get so big and so strong, until a change in diet is the only thing that would benefit you.

    Anyways nice Celi.
    I don't think u eat at maintence
    I've seen those videos u do and those eating challenges...
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    ok officer............hope your house dont burn down homeboy
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryLiftin View Post
    My bro really liked celicas. Had two. He's building an mr2 now tho.
    I like my little celica lol.....it has a carbon fiber hood and some little 16" chrome rims etc.....they look sharp, reason I bought it....but the #1 reason i bought it was for the gas mileage on that little 1.8 liter! 30 plus MPG easy.....that is a nice celica though in that pic you got.....we got a few guys around here locally with cool celicas....I'll have to take some pics of mine, and post them in the future. it gets neglected by the camera with the other two cars.........
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    I think it all matters about choices when you go out to eat fast food, i've gotten to the point where i just don't enjoy eating any fast food or really sweets or anything. That being said if im with a bunch of friends or family and we end up at like McDonalds or something i'll try to make decent choices without looking like i care too much : ) but i usually pick up some grilled chicken never fried always avoid fries just no need for them and get water. So i can easily go to a McDonalds, Burger King, Chick fil a, and get a pretty good meal now you never know all the artifical sweetners and perservatives they use but just knowing what to avoid there is key, no frosties, i avoid fries no nutritional value.

    I believe you can make gains or stay lean with junk food in your diet, if training permits but i just prefer not too usually i feel like crap after eating fast food and fast food is a Gateway food tehehe i find if i start eating fast food even a little my diet just continually gets worse till i see some fat gain then get myself back into gear.

    My weakness is Buffallo Chicken Anything Pizza, Calzones you name it these are my weakness good thing they atleast a decent amount of protein in em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpshot903
    I think it all matters about choices when you go out to eat fast food, i've gotten to the point where i just don't enjoy eating any fast food or really sweets or anything. That being said if im with a bunch of friends or family and we end up at like McDonalds or something i'll try to make decent choices without looking like i care too much : ) but i usually pick up some grilled chicken never fried always avoid fries just no need for them and get water. So i can easily go to a McDonalds, Burger King, Chick fil a, and get a pretty good meal now you never know all the artifical sweetners and perservatives they use but just knowing what to avoid there is key, no frosties, i avoid fries no nutritional value.

    I believe you can make gains or stay lean with junk food in your diet, if training permits but i just prefer not too usually i feel like crap after eating fast food and fast food is a Gateway food tehehe i find if i start eating fast food even a little my diet just continually gets worse till i see some fat gain then get myself back into gear.

    My weakness is Buffallo Chicken Anything Pizza, Calzones you name it these are my weakness good thing they atleast a decent amount of protein in em.
    This is true...

    I like a ton of "junk" just taste better.
    A lot of people seem to stay & in shape eating it.
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