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    Looking for a whole food snack other than nuts/seeds. Not into shakes due to insulin response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysavage
    greek yogurt
    Gives me bloating... I am a paleo advocate and trying to minimize fructose due to it's transportation to the liver.
    So a nut/dairy/ fruit free snack lol
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    i dont know then, snacks are when i eat nuts fruit and dairy
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    i dont know then, snacks are when i eat nuts fruit and dairy
    What else is there? Low sodium beef jerky?
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    granola bars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik
    What else is there? Low sodium beef jerky?
    Yum
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    My wife makes these little turkey balls that have a few veggies and seasoning in them. They're delicious.
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    That's a fruit.
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    zucchini slices!!! Perfect snack food. I eat one everyday at work. Nice crunch and taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsmeshelly1
    zucchini slices!!! Perfect snack food. I eat one everyday at work. Nice crunch and taste.
    Recipe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik
    My wife makes these little turkey balls that have a few veggies and seasoning in them. They're delicious.
    Sounds bloody good man
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Not into shakes due to insulin response.
    que?

    Just about all foods are going to illicit an insulin release. Insulin isn't some big bad monster that you need to avoid, just learn to control.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik View Post
    My wife makes these little turkey balls that have a few veggies and seasoning in them. They're delicious.
    Can you post or PM me a recipe please? Last time I Friedel make eatballs myself they didn't come out too good

    Quote Originally Posted by Itsmeshelly1 View Post
    zucchini slices!!! Perfect snack food. I eat one everyday at work. Nice crunch and taste.
    I used to slice them up, drizzle EVCO and spilled some salt, cayenne pepper and/or red pepper flakes and bake em. A nice replacement for fries
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Looking for a whole food snack other than nuts/seeds. Not into shakes due to insulin response.
    your seriously worried about insulin responce from a whey shake?

    please.

    first of all not only carbs stimulate insulin but fat does too via GIP... Protein would be the best to have. inbetween.

    if your really that worried just have some leucine inbetween meals. but you think insulinogenic... yea it is but only in presence of glucose.

    snacks are for children.

    eat meals.2-3 of them a day. if you need a snack in between your not eating enoough
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post

    first of all not only carbs stimulate insulin but fat does too via GIP...
    Please elaborate on how fat stimulates a insulin response?

    From what I seen it either has no effect on insulin or slows & delays the response but it doesn't have any real direct effect on insulin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik
    What else is there? Low sodium beef jerky?
    this was going to be my suggestion... I love me some jerky.

    the only other alternative would be some cheap but effective protein bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Please elaborate on how fat stimulates a insulin response?

    From what I seen it either has no effect on insulin or slows & delays the response but it doesn't have any real direct effect on insulin.
    Via stimulation of Gastric inhibitory polypeptide...

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/66/2/323.short

    at work sorry cant be more thrurough

    http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v8/n7/abs/nm727.html
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    Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

    Ingredients:
    • 2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)
    • 3 egg whites
    • 1 cup quick cooking oats
    • 1/2 tsp ground cumin
    • 1/2 tsp dried thyme
    • 2 tsp dry yellow mustard
    • 2 tsp black pepper
    • 2 tsp chipotle pepper spice
    • 1 tsp salt
    • 2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)
    • 1 small onion (finely chopped)
    • 2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
    Directions:
    1. Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
    2. Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.
    3. Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.
    4. Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.
    5. Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

      Serving Size:
      Women: 2 muffins
      Men: 4 muffins


      Calories:
      80
      Fats: 2 grams
      Carbs: 4 grams
      Protein: 11 grams




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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik
    Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

    Ingredients:
    [*]2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)[*]3 egg whites[*]1 cup quick cooking oats[*]1/2 tsp ground cumin[*]1/2 tsp dried thyme[*]2 tsp dry yellow mustard[*]2 tsp black pepper[*]2 tsp chipotle pepper spice[*]1 tsp salt[*]2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)[*]1 small onion (finely chopped)[*]2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
    Directions:
    [*]Preheat oven to 375 degrees.[*]Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.[*]Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.[*]Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.[*]Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

    Serving Size:
    Women: 2 muffins
    Men: 4 muffins


    Calories: 80
    Fats: 2 grams
    Carbs: 4 grams
    Protein: 11 grams
    I follow paleo so no grains for me but would they hold if I didn't have oats in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    your seriously worried about insulin responce from a whey shake?

    snacks are for children.

    eat meals.2-3 of them a day. if you need a snack in between your not eating enoough
    This is a ridiculous response in my opinion. Snacks are for children? Seriously?

    2-3 meals isn't good for cutting or bulking. If cutting, you should eat 5-6 small meals throughout the day to help speed up metabolism and if bulking, you should eat 5-6 meals a day to constantly keep fueling your muscles to fight catabolism. Some of those meals can be considered "snacks". It's not like we're talkin' about lunchables or something here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik
    Ok so my wife got the recipe from Jamie Eason, didn't wanna steal credit. Here it is so everybody can see it.

    Ingredients:
    [*]2 lbs ground turkey (or chicken)[*]3 egg whites[*]1 cup quick cooking oats[*]1/2 tsp ground cumin[*]1/2 tsp dried thyme[*]2 tsp dry yellow mustard[*]2 tsp black pepper[*]2 tsp chipotle pepper spice[*]1 tsp salt[*]2 tbsp garlic powder (2 cloves minced)[*]1 small onion (finely chopped)[*]2 celery stalks (finely chopped)
    Directions:
    [*]Preheat oven to 375 degrees.[*]Spray muffin pan with canola or olive oil.[*]Mix all your ingredients together in one large bowl.[*]Roll the mixture into balls and place in muffin pan. Muffins should be about the size of a racquetball.[*]Bake for 40 minutes.Makes 12 muffins.

    Serving Size:
    Women: 2 muffins
    Men: 4 muffins


    Calories: 80
    Fats: 2 grams
    Carbs: 4 grams
    Protein: 11 grams
    I've never made it but I've watched the video a lot....
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I follow paleo so no grains for me but would they hold if I didn't have oats in it?
    Yeah it should be fine man, I'm pretty sure the egg is what holds it together. You can tweak the recipe to your liking. I personally hate onions and wouldn't mind making it extra spicy but she makes it so I let her do her thing lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    I've never made it but I've watched the video a lot....
    Would Jaime be the reason for watching it lol...she is quiet attractive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik
    Yeah it should be fine man, I'm pretty sure the egg is what holds it together. You can tweak the recipe to your liking. I personally hate onions and wouldn't mind making it extra spicy but she makes it so I let her do her thing lol.
    Nice!!!
    Can use any lean meat mince like grass fed beef and kangaroo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    Would Jaime be the reason for watching it lol...she is quiet attractive
    You know it!
    Haha. Yea I watch all her vids when I'm bored and on bb.com for motivational vids etc. Lol. She's hot. Just don't tell the wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    Nice!!!
    Can use any lean meat mince like grass fed beef and kangaroo?
    Kangaroo?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik View Post
    This is a ridiculous response in my opinion. Snacks are for children? Seriously?

    2-3 meals isn't good for cutting or bulking. If cutting, you should eat 5-6 small meals throughout the day to help speed up metabolism and if bulking, you should eat 5-6 meals a day to constantly keep fueling your muscles to fight catabolism. Some of those meals can be considered "snacks". It's not like we're talkin' about lunchables or something here.
    hmm... show me a study showing eating 5-6 meals a day fight catabolism, and show me a study saying it speeds metabolism.

    short term overfeeding speeds metabolism..theres a study on that.

    also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?

    dont think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards

    hmm... show me a study showing eating 5-6 meals a day fight catabolism, and show me a study saying it speeds metabolism.

    short term overfeeding speeds metabolism..theres a study on that.

    also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?

    dont think so.
    In a 16 hour day (8hr sleep) that would be 5-6 meals paco...

    Do the math before you post this gibberish thinking your schooling someone, you just negated your own post.

    Edit: there's tons of info showing multiple smaller meals increase metabolism and require less insulin secretion evening out bs levels.... Also if one is carb cycling or restricted in their diet this will actually help increase insulin sensitivity and give the pancreas a break....

    Read up on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    In a 16 hour day (8hr sleep) that would be 5-6 meals paco...

    Do the math before you post this gibberish thinking your schooling someone, you just negated your own post.
    I think you are misreading what he is saying, as that didn't negate his point at all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    I think you are misreading what he is saying, as that didn't negate his point at all..
    Frank,

    He said 2-3 meals....

    Then he said every 2-3 hours (that's 5-6 meals in a normal day)...

    I am posting from my phone so I might have mixed something up but isn't that negating oneself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    hmm... show me a study showing eating 5-6 meals a day fight catabolism, and show me a study saying it speeds metabolism.

    short term overfeeding speeds metabolism..theres a study on that.

    also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?

    dont think so.
    You are the only person I've seen say that eating 2-3 meals a day is a good thing. Food is digested in about 2 hours so if you're bulking wouldn't you want to continuously have food in your body so it doesn't feed on your muscles for fuel. This is common knowledge, I'm not gonna waste my time finding an article about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    Frank,

    He said 2-3 meals....

    Then he said every 2-3 hours (that's 5-6 meals in a normal day)...

    I am posting from my phone so I might have mixed something up but isn't that negating oneself?
    Please, read it YET AGAIN..

    He is ASKING a loaded question:

    "also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?"

    To which in his opinion, the answer is NO.

    He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Nice!!!
    Can use any lean meat mince like grass fed beef and kangaroo?
    Yeah, it'll throw off the macros a little bit but it's up to you. As long as it's still healthy and you enjoy it, then that's all that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Please, read it YET AGAIN.. He is ASKING a loaded question "also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?" to which his opinion, the answer is NO.

    He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
    Understood, sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet sometimes, thank you for catching his witty response and bring it to my attention.

    I still disagree with his sentiments and think rating more often has greater metabolic effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Please, read it YET AGAIN.. He is ASKING a loaded question "also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?" to which his opinion, the answer is NO.

    He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
    Understood, sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet sometimes, thank you for catching his witty response and bring it to my attention.

    I still disagree with his sentiments and think eating more often has greater metabolic effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds View Post
    Please, read it YET AGAIN..

    He is ASKING a loaded question:

    "also u want to secrete insulin every 2-3 hours before your pancreas has time to replenish it and not have ot overwork to make it?"

    To which in his opinion, the answer is NO.

    He is making a point for LESS feedings, and NOT eating every 2-3 hrs.
    A little bit of proper grammar on his part would have clarified things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolik View Post
    You are the only person I've seen say that eating 2-3 meals a day is a good thing. Food is digested in about 2 hours so if you're bulking wouldn't you want to continuously have food in your body so it doesn't feed on your muscles for fuel. This is common knowledge, I'm not gonna waste my time finding an article about it.
    Really? There is a whole thread devoted to this, just a few below this one. The whole premise of IF is 2-3 meals a day. I think it is pretty effective, although on an all out bulk, I am still undecided.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post

    I still disagree with his sentiments and think eating more often has greater metabolic effects.
    You are entitled to your opinion.

    I can say I am in my best shape, at my heaviest, eating like that, and I have dieted down, just about every way imaginable.
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    Thats awesome... but 9 out of 10 personal trainers, in the gym and across the web would surely disagree....

    Its good it worked for you though...

    Not every key unlocks every door...

    Everyone is unique.
  

  
 

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