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  1. Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Well I'm not down any lbs but it seems as though I've went down .25 to .5 inches on my widest point (love handle to love handle). So I'm happy with that! Gonna try low Carb today. Do you guys bother counting dietary fiber carbs or not?
    I don't, but it doesn't matter. Count, don't count, just be consistent.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Well I'm not down any lbs but it seems as though I've went down .25 to .5 inches on my widest point (love handle to love handle). So I'm happy with that! Gonna try low Carb today. Do you guys bother counting dietary fiber carbs or not?
    Yah recomp is very strong on this diet, you get the opportunity to trim down with the fasting but then you create and anabolic environment and take advantage with the feeding window. It works, you are getting the best of both worlds don't doubt it for a second... I myself gained 2 lbs and I am still losing as fast as I was on less calories. Lean gains is the Holy Grail ....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah recomp is very strong on this diet, you get the opportunity to trim down with the fasting but then you create and anabolic environment and take advantage with the feeding window. It works, you are getting the best of both worlds don't doubt it for a second... I myself gained 2 lbs and I am still losing as fast as I was on less calories. Lean gains is the Holy Grail ....
    Truth.. This is one diet that, at least for me, in which you can not go by the scale. There was a period where my weight was not changing AT ALL, and I was getting visibly leaner. Even at a fairly big deficit I was still only dropping scale weight very slowly.
    Last edited by Frank Reynolds; 06-21-2011 at 11:10 AM.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Truth.. This is one diet that, at least for me, in which you can not go by the scale. There was a period where my weight was not changing AT ALL, and I was getting visibly leaner. Even at a fairly big deficit I was still only dropping scale weight very slowly.
    Agreed! Making huge changes in the mirror with minimal to no changes on the scale is what almost everyone wants to achieve! Well, everyone who is looking to trim the fat anyway!
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  5. Definitely motivating to carry on! Ill see if ican get some pics/measurements tonight to compare to 3 weeks from this fri when my goal is
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  6. Agree. I'm at a serious deficit on rest days and am leaning out nicely. No change on the scale and strength is up. I can't believe I ate 6-7 meals a day for so long like a sucker.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah recomp is very strong on this diet, you get the opportunity to trim down with the fasting but then you create and anabolic environment and take advantage with the feeding window. It works, you are getting the best of both worlds don't doubt it for a second... I myself gained 2 lbs and I am still losing as fast as I was on less calories. Lean gains is the Holy Grail ....

    Absolutely man!! This diet might be the holy grail. I havent been as lucky as you guys on the recomping effects, but I have been geared more towards cutting. I'm adjusting more towards a recomp now so I will hopefully get to reap the same benefits...................... .......um and I'm on cycle too!!
    Recoverbro Elite
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  8. Subbed!

    Just completed my second day. Its probably too early to assess anything but during the day, aside from a few minor hunger pains, I was completely alert and focused.

    We'll see how tomorrow goes (rest day but will be doing some cardio and probably abs (doing PHAT))

  9. Been on LG for a few days now and am definitely seeing results. Noticeably leaner already and strength was up yesterday. Brb eating ice cream and losing fat on LG

  10. Quote Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    Been on LG for a few days now and am definitely seeing results. Noticeably leaner already and strength was up yesterday. Brb eating ice cream and losing fat on LG
    Having your cake and eating it too?....that's lean gains for ya
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  11. Shiiiet im probably still being stricter on what foods i eat than some of ya... but thats ok Im cutting and its working! Once i jump to recomp or bulk I will definitely be indulging a little! First low carb day went well... sitting 1.4 lbs lighter just for low carbing it yesterday

  12. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Absolutely man!! This diet might be the holy grail. I havent been as lucky as you guys on the recomping effects, but I have been geared more towards cutting. I'm adjusting more towards a recomp now so I will hopefully get to reap the same benefits...................... .......um and I'm on cycle too!!
    At first I was cutting too buy my intention was recomp, now that I added EPI-Strong I aimed at lean bulk but got more recomp effect, I will continue to ease the cals up. I have gained some nice size already and leaned out nicely but I am still looking to see if it can get even better... I love this diet so much, it's turning me into a lean mean massive machine... Biggest changes in 25 years of lifting....I love what has happened to my physique. Stay tuned for my prep this summer, I promise an absolute extravaganza!! I am already bigger and leaner than I have ever been and it's going to get a lot better!! I am enjoying every minute of this..I want everybody to go give Chris reps!!!
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  13. I would give him Reps but it won't let me. Apparently I can't rep myself. DAYUM! I do so love the intermittent fasting, I REALLY love the leniency it brings to the table. I will say it doesn't take much to overshoot cals when not counting if you just go by appetite. Once the stomach stretches out eating instinctively can be interesting. However I will say that I have never been able to clean up quite so quickly after long weekends of massive eating. I have had a few recently just because of the holidays and what not and I am consistently able to be back at the same or lower body fat within a week but also have more LBM.

    Now when I say I have been eating loosely I mean LOOSELY during these weekends. Maybe even up to 5000 cals a day and my maintenance is right about 2500. So recovering within a week of massive overeating with a little extra LBM has been pretty nice. Yet if I want to finish stripping down to 6% I am gonna have to focus a little more on eating cleaner on the weekend and I will lean out very rapidly. I am going to be taking some pics this weekend and then again in a month of just cleaning it up on the weekends and see where I am at.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I would give him Reps but it won't let me. Apparently I can't rep myself. DAYUM! I do so love the intermittent fasting, I REALLY love the leniency it brings to the table. I will say it doesn't take much to overshoot cals when not counting if you just go by appetite. Once the stomach stretches out eating instinctively can be interesting. However I will say that I have never been able to clean up quite so quickly after long weekends of massive eating. I have had a few recently just because of the holidays and what not and I am consistently able to be back at the same or lower body fat within a week but also have more LBM.

    Now when I say I have been eating loosely I mean LOOSELY during these weekends. Maybe even up to 5000 cals a day and my maintenance is right about 2500. So recovering within a week of massive overeating with a little extra LBM has been pretty nice. Yet if I want to finish stripping down to 6% I am gonna have to focus a little more on eating cleaner on the weekend and I will lean out very rapidly. I am going to be taking some pics this weekend and then again in a month of just cleaning it up on the weekends and see where I am at.
    Not only the leniency but the efficiency of losing by fasting while setting yourself up for an anabolic reactions it's just win, win and very efficient for what we need...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Having your cake and eating it too?....that's lean gains for ya
    Absolutely! If you saw the way and what I eat, you wouldn't believe that I can and do maintain my leanness and get leaner when I want!

    ~Rosie~

  16. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I would give him Reps but it won't let me. Apparently I can't rep myself. DAYUM! I do so love the intermittent fasting, I REALLY love the leniency it brings to the table. I will say it doesn't take much to overshoot cals when not counting if you just go by appetite. Once the stomach stretches out eating instinctively can be interesting. However I will say that I have never been able to clean up quite so quickly after long weekends of massive eating. I have had a few recently just because of the holidays and what not and I amm consistently able to be back at the same or lower body fat within a week but also have more LBM.

    Now when I say I have been eating loosely I mean LOOSELY during these weekends. Maybe even up to 5000 cals a day and my maintenance is right about 2500. So recovering within a week of massive overeating with a little extra LBM has been pretty nice. Yet if I want to finish stripping down to 6% I am gonna have to focus a little more on eating cleaner on the weekend and I will lean out very rapidly. I am going to be taking some pics this weekend and then again in a month of just cleaning it up on the weekends and see where I am at.
    No doubt! I drank like a fish last weekend and ate like shxt Saturday and I'm already leaner than last week

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I would give him Reps but it won't let me. Apparently I can't rep myself. DAYUM! I do so love the intermittent fasting, I REALLY love the leniency it brings to the table. I will say it doesn't take much to overshoot cals when not counting if you just go by appetite. Once the stomach stretches out eating instinctively can be interesting. However I will say that I have never been able to clean up quite so quickly after long weekends of massive eating. I have had a few recently just because of the holidays and what not and I am consistently able to be back at the same or lower body fat within a week but also have more LBM.

    Now when I say I have been eating loosely I mean LOOSELY during these weekends. Maybe even up to 5000 cals a day and my maintenance is right about 2500. So recovering within a week of massive overeating with a little extra LBM has been pretty nice. Yet if I want to finish stripping down to 6% I am gonna have to focus a little more on eating cleaner on the weekend and I will lean out very rapidly. I am going to be taking some pics this weekend and then again in a month of just cleaning it up on the weekends and see where I am at.
    Yea man, the leniency and results of this diet are too good to be true almost. I had a hugeee cheatmeal on Sunday for Father's Day and it didn't throw me back at all. Bloated yesterday but today i'm looking leaner than on Sunday for sure. Really thought that cheatmeal was going to hurt me but it seems it had no effect

    Was has also impressed me is i'm leaning up faster since starting LG and I had stopped my current stack of supps/PCT (Erase + OEP + Shift + LX) right around the same time. I figured stopping the supps would take me a week to start losing again but fat loss has only sped up since then! I did start 7-KE about 3-4 days ago though but i'm not attributing the increased fat loss to it since it's been so short.

    It's a little early to say definitively but LG seems to be amazing so far. Very excited for what the rest of the summer brings with this diet. I'm starting to wonder if I should continue it on cycle when I plan to do a lean bulk/recomp.
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September

  18. Well we have a bunch of people running Lean Gains on DS and PH cycles right now. So you can follow along.

    My Current log FINAFLEX 1-Andro - KLEEN - Gets REDEFINE’D & grows to 6% w/ 1-Andro & PCT Revolution Black (Sponsored)

    DreamWeaver's current log - EpiStrong part starts about 2 weeks ago - Going to be a swole recovery.... with Lean Gains

    RickRock's current log Trenazone and Katana - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle...ippedrock.html

    The Progestin log I just finished when I bridged into the 1-Andro, has before and after pics as well.
    KLEEN - Takes the Bull by the horns! Taurus Nutrition's w/ WYKED & Beta TNP
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Well we have a bunch of people running Lean Gains on DS and PH cycles right now. So you can follow along.

    My Current log FINAFLEX 1-Andro - KLEEN - Gets REDEFINE’D & grows to 6% w/ 1-Andro & PCT Revolution Black (Sponsored)

    DreamWeaver's current log - EpiStrong part starts about 2 weeks ago - Going to be a swole recovery.... with Lean Gains

    RickRock's current log Trenazone and Katana - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle...ippedrock.html

    The Progestin log I just finished when I bridged into the 1-Andro, has before and after pics as well.
    KLEEN - Takes the Bull by the horns! Taurus Nutrition's w/ WYKED & Beta TNP
    Wait till you guys see what happens on this diet when you use anabolics....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  20. Very interesting study disproving the no carbohydrates at night stance many stick to so vehemently. This is one of the link referred to in the most recent blog by Martin.

    Greater Weight Loss and Hormonal Changes After 6 Months Diet With Carbohydrates Eaten Mostly at Dinner.Sofer S, Eliraz A, Kaplan S, Voet H, Fink G, Kima T, Madar Z.
    Source1] The Robert H. Smith Faculty of Agriculture, Food and Environment, Institute of Biochemistry and Food Science, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Rehovot, Israel [2] Meuhedet Medical Services, Diet and Nutrition Department, Israel.

    Abstract
    This study was designed to investigate the effect of a low-calorie diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner on anthropometric, hunger/satiety, biochemical, and inflammatory parameters. Hormonal secretions were also evaluated. Seventy-eight police officers (BMI >30) were randomly assigned to experimental (carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner) or control weight loss diets for 6 months. On day 0, 7, 90, and 180 blood samples and hunger scores were collected every 4 h from 0800 to 2000 hours. Anthropometric measurements were collected throughout the study. Greater weight loss, abdominal circumference, and body fat mass reductions were observed in the experimental diet in comparison to controls. Hunger scores were lower and greater improvements in fasting glucose, average daily insulin concentrations, and homeostasis model assessment for insulin resistance (HOMA(IR)), T-cholesterol, low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol, C-reactive protein (CRP), tumor necrosis factor-α (TNF-α), and interleukin-6 (IL-6) levels were observed in comparison to controls. The experimental diet modified daily leptin and adiponectin concentrations compared to those observed at baseline and to a control diet. A simple dietary manipulation of carbohydrate distribution appears to have additional benefits when compared to a conventional weight loss diet in individuals suffering from obesity. It might also be beneficial for individuals suffering from insulin resistance and the metabolic syndrome. Further research is required to confirm and clarify the mechanisms by which this relatively simple diet approach enhances satiety, leads to better anthropometric outcomes, and achieves improved metabolic response, compared to a more conventional dietary approach.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  21. I saw that article referenced in last month's Muscular Development. Good read, and another one that goes against conventional wisdom.
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  22. You know MD has some really good info they put in between thier advertisements. I often don't put too much stock in the workout in them but the research info they provide is always good compared to the other mags.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  23. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Well we have a bunch of people running Lean Gains on DS and PH cycles right now. So you can follow along.

    My Current log FINAFLEX 1-Andro - KLEEN - Gets REDEFINE’D & grows to 6% w/ 1-Andro & PCT Revolution Black (Sponsored)

    DreamWeaver's current log - EpiStrong part starts about 2 weeks ago - Going to be a swole recovery.... with Lean Gains

    RickRock's current log Trenazone and Katana - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle...ippedrock.html

    The Progestin log I just finished when I bridged into the 1-Andro, has before and after pics as well.
    KLEEN - Takes the Bull by the horns! Taurus Nutrition's w/ WYKED & Beta TNP
    Very nice, great post! I'll be sure to check out the logs and see what's up with LG + AAS.
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September

  24. It's been years since I've posted on AM (I used to be a decently active member in 2006 or so... all the way since 2004). I left because there was a lot of elite bro-ness going on and I never thought anyone would adapt something like Leangains. Amazing to know that this has changed!!!

    As a present, I'd like to point out a blog that has dozens of gourmet LG recipes. Enjoy The Epicurean Bodybuilder

  25. Thanks for the recipes
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