The Lean Gains / IF learning and Discussion Log
- 08-03-2011, 07:40 PM
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- 08-03-2011, 09:36 PM
08-03-2011, 09:41 PM
I'm having some difficulty getting in good protein percentages with out drinking it down. I know Martin says drinking calories is a big No-No. Is anybody having the same issue? Is it really essential that I eat the protein and not drink it?
08-03-2011, 10:24 PM
Where is the problem ? 3 meals during your eat time, 60g protein each. What sort of macros/totals are you shooting for?Originally Posted by TurningGreen
08-03-2011, 10:31 PM
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08-03-2011, 10:34 PM
What sort of total calories each day too? Personally I'd hate trying to hit 50% from carbs workout days. Would be 400g or so. I hate more than 250-300Originally Posted by TurningGreen
08-03-2011, 10:35 PM
08-03-2011, 10:40 PM
2100 restOriginally Posted by EasyEJL
I've been trying to stay away from drinking the protein. If I drink it I really have no issue getting my macros. I was really questioning whether or not it really makes a difference what form the protein comes in.
08-03-2011, 10:56 PM
Well, the main reason drinking it sucks is the issue of digestion and clearance times, plus absorption and oxidation rates. Whey will provide increased animosity for no more than 3 hours, and only usable at 8-10 grams an hour. Casein may last 6-8 hours, but is only usable at 6g an hour. Beef and pork provide raised aminos for 5+ hours, and are usable in that 8-10g an hour range. Its not terrible to use 30g of whey as a drink along with also taking in solid protein but it being your major source is iffy
08-03-2011, 11:11 PM
Yes, this is what I was looking for. What I'm taking from this info is that it is acceptable to get a percentage of protein from powder as long as there is also consumption of actual animal protein. Thanks EasyEJL.Originally Posted by EasyEJL
08-04-2011, 01:07 AM
08-04-2011, 07:35 AM
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08-04-2011, 09:16 AM
08-04-2011, 09:44 AM
I find it pretty easy to get enough protein in by eating a LOT of meat! 12oz of meat twice a day gets a good amount, add in some high-protein PB, cheese, microwavable pork rinds (these are a new favorite of mine, high protein, low fat, and VERY tasty for a crunchy/salty snack), etc. Chicken is the cornerstone of my protein intake, and shakes are just for dessert with me!
The other thing I do is make either **** Better Protein Bars or Layne Norton Cheesecake, these both give a good dose of protein and are very healthy in a macro sense. Both are tasty too, and convenient.
08-04-2011, 11:18 AM
need some advice with my leangains setup guys
to start, I am 6'1", 200 lbs, and ~12-13% bodyfat
I have my maintenance set at 3000 cals, and trying to do maintenance on lifting days (3 days of DC style training) and -20% on non-training days (also will throw in 30min low intensity cardio on most non-training days prior to breaking the fast)
heres my current macro breakdown:
• Training days (high carb / low fat)
o Cal Target: 3000 cal
o Protein: 250 g / 1000 cal
o Carbs: 320g / 1280 cal
o Fat: 80g / 720 cal
• Rest days (low carb / high fat)
o Cal Target: 2400 cal
o Protein: 240g / 960 cal
o Carbs: 30g / 120 cal
o Fat: 145g / 1305 cal
my priority is to drop fat, so I wanted to know if you guys think my carbs and fats are at the right amounts on both days? if you had to change up anything, what would you change?
08-04-2011, 03:58 PM
read every single post of this and saw Rick's log. Absolutely amazing. I am currently 12 days in a Mstane/Tren E cycle and im thinking when im done with this and maintain the weight i gained throughout PCT i am going to start doing this to shed some BF. I love food and think consuming these big meals all while losing fat is going to really make my day haha. Until im done with this cycle i will keep checking back and looking at you guys amazing results. FYI im up 12 pounds on day 12 of this cycle and feel invincible. Im interested to see the changes when i add the tren on sunday.
08-04-2011, 10:25 PM
08-05-2011, 03:01 AM
I've been reading this log for the last two days and I'm amazed at how well it works. I want to go ahead and try it, but i do have some questions.
there is an 8 hour eating period does that mean, I can eat anytime within those 8 hours. for example my post work out is schedule at 2 pm and my last meal of the day at 10pm, so i eat at 2pm and can I also eat like at 5 then 10pm.
also Im oging to be taking ecdysterone(ECD russian extract natural) do i take that on the morning too, or do i wait for my post workout meal and then my other meal?
08-05-2011, 06:31 AM
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08-05-2011, 07:52 AM
I am losing weight very quickly doing LG...maybe too quickly.
I was trying out intermittent fasting for a week just to see if I could handle it, without really watching macros. On July 26th, I started watching my macros more closely, even entering every days food into fitday.com.
On July 26th I weighed in at 221 lbs. 2 days later after 1 day of high calories (3350) and 1 day of low calories (around 2200), I weighed in at 208. I accounted most of that weight loss to water. This morning I weighed in at 204.
I've been feeling great, but I'll see how my strength levels are at the gym today. It's a deload week for me so won't really be able to tell where my strength is at though. Will have to wait till next week.
08-05-2011, 09:05 AM
08-05-2011, 09:26 AM
I totally agree! I've always used Livestrong (aka The daily plate). It has much broader And mote accurate food listed.Originally Posted by Milas
08-05-2011, 12:27 PM
08-05-2011, 01:00 PM
08-05-2011, 02:35 PM
Just signed up for LiveStrong. Thanks.
Trying to figure out how to manually enter food. My PWO shake has like 7 different ingredients in there so rather then enter each one individually, I'd rather just do it once. Like on Fitday where you can go to your "custom foods". Anyone know how to do this?
I tried going to "my recipes" on LiveStrong, but it doesn't let me enter in the macros.
If anyone knows how, thanks. I'm sure it's probably really simple to do and I'm just not seeing it on here. lol
08-05-2011, 04:24 PM
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08-06-2011, 01:51 PM
Does anyone break the fast early in the day? I train at 6-630am, and after lifting/cardio I am usually home around 9ish. I am thinking about trying to have my large meal right then at 9-10am, and end the fast at 5-6 right after dinner.
Then on non-training keep from 12-8.
08-06-2011, 02:25 PM
Stay the same times every day, it makes a difference.
I train at 7am, and don't eat till noon
08-06-2011, 02:35 PM
08-06-2011, 02:36 PM
I suppose I could break it early on both training/non training days and see how it goes.
I was just thinking about trying to push my first meal a bit closer to post-wo to see if there was any noticeable benefits, or differences at all.
I have actually been adding 10-15g of carbs to my intra drink as well, as of late.
I am not thinking about breaking it early because it is hard to make it until noon, as I have fasted until 5:30 at one point. I am more interested in seeing if there is any benefit by doing it that way. I have no problem stopping my feeding at 6pm, as I go to bed by 9 anyway.
08-06-2011, 02:43 PM
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