how can I boost my LH levels?

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  1. how can I boost my LH levels?


    I have very low LH levels which is also causing very low T levels. I have heard of taking Tribulus but that this can also increase estrogen levels.

    Are tehre any natural ways?

    What if I took tribulus with a product liek inhibit E to keep the estrogen down?


  2. I believe Primordial's Toco 8 is supposed to work well for this.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    I have very low LH levels which is also causing very low T levels. I have heard of taking Tribulus but that this can also increase estrogen levels.

    Are tehre any natural ways?

    What if I took tribulus with a product liek inhibit E to keep the estrogen down?
    Adam is correct - Toco-8 sensitizes the testes to the effects of Lutelizing Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone, which can help with increasing Testosterone.

    However, you need to INcrease your Lutelizing Hormone as well - Lutelizing Hormone releasers include:
    * HCG
    * Forskolin at 50 mg/day of 100% extract (or equivalent lower dosage with lower extract) increases cAMP better than anything else available, thereby increasing lutelizing hormone secretion.
    * Resveratrol is a decent choice at 750 mg/day of the 100% extract for increasing cAMP, which in turn increases Lutelizing Hormone secretion

    Studies over Tribulus are conflicted and the research points more towards it having little effect on Lutelizing Hormone and Testosterone levels, so I would go with something else.

    ~Rosie~
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  4. Good to know about the forskolin and resveratrol. I could use this info, thanks Rosie.

  5. I'm surprised you guys didn't mention DAA. It raises LH levels a lot.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    Good to know about the forskolin and resveratrol. I could use this info, thanks Rosie.
    No worries
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  7. thans alot rosie....i see u all over these boards always giving out great advice i appreciate it, thanks alot ....reps

    im just worried cuz they wanna put me on TRT cuz my LH levels are so low which is making my T almost nonexistent and i jsut dont wanna do it i dont want to become infirtile and i just want to do it naturally if i can...i mean, im only 20

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    thans alot rosie....i see u all over these boards always giving out great advice i appreciate it, thanks alot ....reps

    im just worried cuz they wanna put me on TRT cuz my LH levels are so low which is making my T almost nonexistent and i jsut dont wanna do it i dont want to become infirtile and i just want to do it naturally if i can...i mean, im only 20
    You're welcome - I'm only here to help out

    Re the TRT, that is something you and your medical professionals will have to discuss (everyone knows that I am the last person likely to take the advice of a doctor and are of the opinion that more often than not they have no idea what they're talking about, regardless of their so called degrees and status) to make sure you know ALL about it, the ins and outs, pros and cons. If you don't have to do it, then for sure, I say no, and you can always try natural methods first before resorting to such drastic measures as TRT. Sounds like you need to do a lot more research and try a few things.

    ~Rosie~
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  9. anythign u would recommend?

  10. I'd take DAA with a natural AI.

  11. what woudl be a natural AI.........i have novadex xt, but ive heard bad things coming from that, what about inhibit E i also have that layin around

  12. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    anythign u would recommend?
    Try something that contains Forskolin and/or Resveratrol.

    A product that contains both Forskolin and resveratrol and covers all your bases re increasing cAMP levels, Lutelizing Hormone levels, total and free Testosterone is FREE TEST - this is actually the product I would recommend if you were going to just just ONE.

    Some information on FREE TEST:
    free and total testosterone output:

    * Contains a natural suicide inhibitor of aromatase, and will improve the Testosterone : Estrogen (T:E) profile while concurrently increasing testosterone levels
    * Increases NO/cGMP levels, which leads to increases in lutenizing hormone (LH) and greater endogenous testosterone production.
    * Increases testicular Acetyl L-Carnitine (ALCAR) levels. High testicular ALCAR levels are conducive to heightened spermatogenesis.
    * Lowers levels of cytokines IL-6, IL-1, and TNF-alpha- cytokines, which inhibit endogenous testosterone production by reducing levels of LH.
    * Lowers cortisol levels and heightens Testosterone : Cortisol (T:C) ratio via competitive inhibition processes.
    * Increases cAMP levels, which also increase LH levels.
    * Influences/Increases androgen receptor (AR) binding via altering receptor electro-negativity.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    what woudl be a natural AI.........i have novadex xt, but ive heard bad things coming from that, what about inhibit E i also have that layin around
    * 6,7 benzoflavone might be a good choice, as it antagonizes the estrogen receptor and can normalize the testosterone:estrogen ratio.
    * Icariin at 250 mg/day of 100% extract (or equivalent lower dosage with lower extract) is a strong flavone that acts as both a SERM and a selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) and antagonizes estrogen receptor, so in this case 500 mg of the 50%, 1,250/day of the 20%, etc. Icariin also inhibits PDE-5 and increases cGMP and therefore NOS and nitric oxide, allowing for increased lutelizing hormone secretion as well.
    * ALCAR or L-Carnitine at 2-4 grams per day will work wonders to get things up and running.

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  13. wow thats alot of info, thanks alot, now can u give me some moeny to get this stuff? lol

  14. Is teh Icariin the same as horn goa weed or shoudl i get a sererate product?

  15. I dont see how taking forskin will help with any thing .. lol

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    wow thats alot of info, thanks alot, now can u give me some moeny to get this stuff? lol
    No worries


    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    Is teh Icariin the same as horn goa weed or shoudl i get a sererate product?
    Epimedium which contains Icariin extract comes from Horny Goat Weed, so yes, they're "the same".


    Quote Originally Posted by STPlover View Post
    I dont see how taking forskin will help with any thing .. lol
    As mentioned above: Forskolin at 50 mg/day of 100% extract (or equivalent lower dosage with lower extract) increases cAMP better than anything else available, thereby increasing lutelizing hormone secretion.

    ~Rosie~
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  17. Hey, I had a similar situation....I am 24 and had LH levels of 2.3 with total T of 360 and my urologist wanted to put me on TRT....I refused and he was a cool guy so we talked about options - long story short I went on hCG for 2 months, have been off it currently for 6 months and my LH is now 5...and that is after 3.5 years of struggling with low T. Now I will also add that I was adamant that my low T was caused by supplement use and I do not mean steroids, I was overusing energy powders. They do not know why this works for some people (hCG actually suppresses LH further while you are on it) but there are some people who can be "restarted" from using a drug like this. However, I will add that it is likely important that I was young (like you) and that I was convinced that my T problems stemmed from supplement use. I do not know your specific situation but I agree, if there is a natural way, try to find it.

    One more thing to add - eventually you will figure this out, if this ends up being a long journey for you, that going on TRT is by far the lesser of two evils (if there is no other option)...using TRT to help you feel happy and horny (haha) will leave you sleeping better at the end of the day rather than live with yourself if you can't naturally produce enough T.

  18. These guys all have great suggestions, but if this isn't an isolated incidient due to toxicity, late-puberty, diet, or something like that, these things will increase your LH some, even to the point it is noticeable (at least in the libido department), but none of these things are something you would take forever. If you have some kind of pituitary pathology (which makes the most sense to me) once you discontinue any of these products your luetinizing hormone will drop back down. And if you truly have nearly non-existent Testosterone, none of these products will put you back into normal range consistently and long-term. I would highly, highly suggest continuing to consider and research TRT as it is really the only long-term solution. It sounds scary now, but you will feel infinitely better than you do having low T. I know it's a b*tch, but testosterone is an incredibly important hormone in the body and central nervous system and hey, there are guys creaming to get on TRT when they are older, I know that doesn't mean much now, but you'll be glad you corrected the problem in the future.

  19. I've heard of people trying both Clomid and/or HCG therapy before taking the plunge to TRT. Both things should be discussed with your doc, and if you don't have a good one, make sure you find one. Also, just noticing you were talking about inhibit-e. If you dont' have adequate levels of Testosterone, you could be estrogen dominant, but since testosterone is converted to estrogen via aromatase, taking an AI isn't going to just pump you back up to regular testosterone levels. Now if you do try a product like DAA or something, you will most likely experience a noticeable increase in estrogen (bloat, possibly gyno, etc.) so taking an AI with that would be advised.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by codered5 View Post
    Hey, I had a similar situation....I am 24 and had LH levels of 2.3 with total T of 360 and my urologist wanted to put me on TRT....I refused and he was a cool guy so we talked about options - long story short I went on hCG for 2 months, have been off it currently for 6 months and my LH is now 5...and that is after 3.5 years of struggling with low T. Now I will also add that I was adamant that my low T was caused by supplement use and I do not mean steroids, I was overusing energy powders. They do not know why this works for some people (hCG actually suppresses LH further while you are on it) but there are some people who can be "restarted" from using a drug like this. However, I will add that it is likely important that I was young (like you) and that I was convinced that my T problems stemmed from supplement use. I do not know your specific situation but I agree, if there is a natural way, try to find it.

    One more thing to add - eventually you will figure this out, if this ends up being a long journey for you, that going on TRT is by far the lesser of two evils (if there is no other option)...using TRT to help you feel happy and horny (haha) will leave you sleeping better at the end of the day rather than live with yourself if you can't naturally produce enough T.
    So are u saying that u had low lh because of alot of energy drinks and such, cuz I do take a lot of preworkouts....could that be a reason?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    So are u saying that u had low lh because of alot of energy drinks and such, cuz I do take a lot of preworkouts....could that be a reason?
    It could be a contributing factor, but everyone is different. I was using the pre workout energy powders, maximum dosage, sometimes more than once per day....I started having panic attacks, insomnia, heart palpitations and anxiety...so I stopped taking it and I never regained sexual function after that. About 2.5 years later I find out that my T was low. I had used to be the guy who could do it 5 times a day and at 21 that was all of a sudden gone..it was literally like a light switch was just flicked off. Like I said, I am MUCH better now the natural way, so if you have any of those symptoms please stop using those stupid supplements.

  22. ok so when u say ur better the natural way, what have u done/do you do?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    ok so when u say ur better the natural way, what have u done/do you do?
    I had my doctor give me hCG...he was not even familiar with the drug and I convinced him to research it.. he actually found out he had a couple of close friends who use it and sure enough the next week he was prescribing it to me. I took 400 iU E3D for 3 weeks, then he bumped it up to 500iU E3D for 3 weeks. I was not a strong responder, so he wanted to up my dosage to 600 iU but thanks to this board I knew that was not really a great idea and I was already having nipple pain from the estrogen conversion. I did 250 iU EOD for a final two weeks and then got off the hCG. No one knows why it works for some people, but my LH more than doubled a month off of the hCG and it has held steady for 6 months now. Natural testosterone production has gone up about 60 points as well....I am now trying to lose all the excess weight that I gained and going back to intense weight lifting to further my gains, which will hopefully help me even more. Matrix has been kind enough to point out some other issues with my blood work as well, such as low Vitamin D, which is directly related to low testosterone....I am trying to fill in the voids in my bloodwork with natural diet and vitamins.

  24. hmmm......well i knwo my vi D is good, i brought up HCG to the doc and he jstu said thats too expensive....... and i am only 21 i dont relaly ahve any money as is it, so he gave me androgel i do 5 g a day what u thinka bout that?

  25. wow, some amazing information in this thread!

    yeah, I love toco 8 and resveratrol! the transdermal delivery sysem used by SA really does the trick with resveratrol though!
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