Can Fast Food Really Be That Bad?
- 10-30-2010, 01:10 AM
Can Fast Food Really Be That Bad?
I've been lifting weights for about a year now...gettin pretty swoll. I know that everyone says stay away from fast food while bodybuilding or just to stay healthy. I've been reading a bunch of nutrition facts on fastfood products, and it doesnt seem that bad. Im a busy guy and dont always have time to cook a meal, i dont eat out much either. The Angus burgers from mcdonalds, is made from real meat, has 700 calories...plenty of carbs, and 50 grams of protein...which sounds like a perfect bulking burger imo. Im a full time college student, and money isnt my best friend at the moment...so eating a 5 dollar meal at tacobell, is sometimes my best option..rather than spending 50 bucks at the grocery store. Anyway..lookin at sum of these nutrition facts, sum of this food doesnt seem all that bad. Any opinions/facts?
Ps. I've ran 2 anabolic cycles..both with fastfood included on some days, and i have made great gains from both.
- 10-30-2010, 01:43 AM
I lived off of Tilapia, Tuna, Rice, Steamed Veggies, and Chicken Breasts while I was poor and broke in college. These are all healthy and very affordable choices (although canned mackerel is cheaper than tuna now lbs/lbs).
Fast foods tend to be high in sodium, fats, and preservatives.RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
- 10-30-2010, 01:46 AM
Fast food is bad because sodium and trans fats.. Which will raise your fat storage and bad cholesterol levels.. The protein is protein and carbs are carbs however.
10-30-2010, 01:51 AM
I will even disagree to an extent about the carbs just being carbs. There's likely going to be a lot of processed foods when eating via the drive through.
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
10-30-2010, 01:58 AM
10-30-2010, 02:04 AM
To some people it just won't matter as much. We're all genetically different. I've got a buddy who was a track star and could rock McDonalds as much as he wanted and still had the 6 pack. I always hated him for it, but it is what it is. We're all different and if it doesn't set you back, then more power to you.
But just remember that just because it's good on the surface doesn't mean it's the same underneath. As has already been pointed out, a lot of the problem is in the preparation - trans fats, more sodium and preservatives than necessary, etc. I'd recommend at the very least doing it in moderation.
Just my 2 cents.
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10-30-2010, 02:06 AM
Why not just eat Subway and Quizno's? That way you avoid most of the bad stuff that has already been mentioned.
You might want to think about taking Greens Plus or something like that if you are going to continue eating Burgers and such. It may seem like all the fast food is not bringing your body down now but most damage is done to the body well before symptoms appear.
10-30-2010, 02:07 AM
Most people eat fast food because it is much cheaper than eating bulk amounts of healthy whole foods.. Bulking real clean and healthy is real expensive..
10-30-2010, 02:14 AM
I make sure that i eat foods without trans fat. I eat regular chicken n steak...greens and fruits...but alot of times im at the drive thru (im at tacobell right now lol) It seems to be goin to the right places...thats with lifting heavy at the gym too ofcourse.
10-30-2010, 02:16 AM
10-30-2010, 02:22 AM
I dont for the life of me understand why if you are concerned about your body you would ever put that into it... Eating fast book and being healthy is loke putting soda in your car and expecting it to run correctly..
10-30-2010, 02:23 AM
as far as macronutrients go, no, there are many fast food options that would be adequate and pretty good on paper. But how do you feel after you eat a few mcdoubles? They use tons of artificial sweeteners, flavors, and preservatives (like MSG) which have known excitotoxicity effects among many other adversive situations they can promote in your body. Also, what you eat when you are our age really does affect your health in the future. Plus, the way the foods are prepared and stored depletes many of the necessary phyto-and micronutrients in the products. Having said htat, when I was younger I ate fast food once in a while and it definitely helped me put on weight because at the time I was a hard gainer. I also notice when I stop eating fast food for a week or so, I really dont' crave it and I'm not as hungry as I usually am. This could be good or bad obviously depending on your goals.
I would say McDonald's/other burger joints would be the worst option, but you can get a **** ton of relatively healthy food at taco bell for cheap like chicken burritos, that new chicken flatbread sandwich, fresco tacos, etc.
10-30-2010, 02:40 AM
Yes, and its a cheaper way to help keep up with my calories. If i ate 3-4 thousand calories from clean healthy food every day...i'd be broke all the time for sure...prolly wouldn't be possible at this moment.
10-30-2010, 03:54 AM
Just sounds like excuses to me. Its almost always cheaper to prepare your own foods, even compared to fast food. I can get 1lb worth of burger for 2-3 bucks a pound. Add in a dollar pack of buns and you have the making of 3 of your angus burgers. Just because you're too lazy to go to the store and buy food and then prepare it, doesn't mean you need to seek out others' verification that fast food is ok for you. It is not. McDonald's food will not mold for an extended period of time. Anything that doesn't go bad in a reasonable amount of time isn't something you want in your body. Man up and make your own food.
10-30-2010, 05:18 AM
It reminds me of a guy who took gear because he was "too busy to get in shape naturally".
Yes fast food is quick and easy, yes you can look at the macronutrient content and tell yourself it is ok. Look at the ingredients list from these places, some of the stuff they put in there is disgusting.
Getting in good shape is hard work, be prepared to put it in. Fast food isn't even a shortcut.
10-30-2010, 10:24 AM
10-30-2010, 11:06 AM
10-30-2010, 11:10 AM
I've been doing a mostly clean bulk to build some muscle, after years of dieting to maintain a 100 lb weight loss 5 years ago. Yesterday, for the first time in those 5 years, I had a whopper from BK. After I lost all that weight I avoided fast food like the plague. I've trained myself so well to avoid fast food and have so successfully connected fast food with negativity in my mind that my heart was racing as I ordered. It felt like I was doing something wrong, like buying drugs or shoplifting. It was trippy.
As was said, it's not necessarily about the macros or calories. It really has more to do with all the other crap. It's really like they go out of their way to add everything they can to create an exception to the calories in/calories out rule.
Even though my heart didn't explode, I'll still be avoiding it most of the time.
10-30-2010, 01:27 PM
If your getting enough cardio in their its all just putting wood into the furnace. I stay relatively healthy and i eat fast food on average 2-3 times a week. Yes it is the sodium that is a problem though... as long as you flush out with plenty of water and aerobic activity(backed up with multi) i think your fine.
10-30-2010, 01:42 PM
It is all very well looking at sodium and macronutrients but how long does it take to detoxify trans fats?
10-30-2010, 01:46 PM
10-30-2010, 01:47 PM
10-30-2010, 01:59 PM
Why do people feel so full after just a couple double cheeseburgers from mickey ds? All that fat slowing down the breakdown of the protein and carbs.
and what kind of carbs are in most of these fast food items? Not complex carbs that's for sure.
i see nothing wrong with indulging in something that TASTES good to you but isn't great for you. As long as it's in moderation. This thread reminds me of bodybuilding.com a whole bunch of ectomorphs telling eachother how many mcdoubles they can eat in a sitting and how they dirty bulk. dirty bulking for the most part is for IDIOTS who have no understanding of macronutrients and the benefits of eating whole food. that or just lazy lol
I agree that the sodium plays a big part. What happens when your blood pressure skyrockets for a long period of time? Can anyone answer that one? lol
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10-30-2010, 02:48 PM
After waking up beside my computer in a bloody mess, the result of repeatedly bashing my face up against the wall beside me, I decided to post in this thread.
Some of the comments in this thread are, at best, entirely misinformed and misleading, and at worst, idiotic and dangerous. Some of the worst are below:
Carbs are carbs are carbs. This is completely untrue, both categorically and metabolically. Carbohydrates can generally be considered in two categories, depending upon the level of complexity and organization of sugars in them. These are the oft-mentioned "simple" and "complex" carbohydrates, comprised by mono- and disaccharides, on the one hand, and oligo- and polysaccharides, on the other.
The type of carbohydrate being consumed ultimately dictates the rate of metabolism, and therefore the rate of insulin receptor activation, GLUT4 translocation, triglyceride formation, glycogen storage, and so and so forth. Though each gram of sugar is equal in the amount of kilojoules it disperses, the metabolic effects of carbohydrates which are independent of their caloric value will be different. This leads into the next point.
It's all wood in the furnace. No, wrong again. While this point seems lost in this discussion, I will generalize and then repeat what I said above: foods can and do have metabolic and physiologic effects independent of their caloric value.
While each and every gram of protein contains 16.8 kilojoules per gram, not every amino acid which comprises that gram of protein can be used for fuel in the body. Similarly with carbohydrates. Each gram contains 15.8 kilojoules of energy, though not all carbohydrates are metabolized and used in the same way - with some being metabolized quickly and used immediately for ATP production in skeletal muscle, others being used for storage, while others still are used for the production of triglycerides.
Finally, a gram of trans fat and a gram of polyunsaturated fat both contain 37.8 kilojoules of energy, but again: the body is almost completely unable to utilize those 37.8 kJ in the case of trans fat - which necessarily means it's not, "all wood in the furnace."
Also, what frightens me about the original poster's position is that he is increasing his LDL and reducing his HDL through the use of anabolics and the consumption of excessive amounts of saturated and trans fatty acids. This shows a complete lack of appreciation for basic and fundamental tenets of proper nutrition and training.
Now, I must excuse myself for another round of bashing.
10-30-2010, 04:02 PM
I eat fast food many times per week...but i also make trips to the grocery store. I go to the doctor once every 6 months for blood work, etc just to make sure everything is going well....he said im above average when it comes to health . When i go to Mcdonalds...i dont eat fries...i just eat the grilled chicken plain with the wheat bread. Tonite, im eating steaks, and some greens fresh from walmart. 2morrow ill prolly order dominoes lol.
10-30-2010, 04:15 PM
If you are a natural bber then I would say steer clear because it is going to be very hard to cut.
All in all, if you need a speedy meal with calories, a beef burger won't hurt, 3 a day is foolish.
10-30-2010, 04:48 PM
10-30-2010, 05:04 PM
10-30-2010, 05:05 PM
Bodybuilding as well as health dont mix with fast food.. If its a hbby its one thing but if its something that your passionate about it shouldnt be a question...
10-30-2010, 05:38 PM
For most people on this board, that means they will still eat fast food every once in a while and drink on the weekends.
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