brothers help! am i severely overtrained??
- 08-11-2010, 11:58 AM
brothers help! am i severely overtrained??
Ok im trying to figure out if im just overtrained or is there something else wrong. Ive been training very hard too often. just last week friday i lifted heavy, saturday 2.5 hrs muay thai, sunday lifted very heavy, monday was excessive i did at least 3.5 hrs muay thai because i was off from work... tuesday i woke up dead. i got much less energy, strength is way down, go no drive and feels like test is non existant. im not a super high test guy to begin with but now i feel like a 80 yr old man.
anyone ever do this to themselves? how long did it take to bounce back? im not too worried about it but i just didnt think i was training too much. any feedback is appreciated..
- 08-11-2010, 12:43 PM
Second, just sounds like a brief period of overreaching to me (and yes, there is a huge difference between overreaching and overtraining). If you're NOT used to training like that, then yes, it IS going to tax and fatigue your body somewhat. You need to make sure that you schedule in days off, even if you ARE used to training like that as well.
If you're not eating enough and training that much, then you could just be energy depleted and need to make sure that you eat enough to refuel yourself, and especially ON your training days.
If it's a simple matter of overreaching or not eating enough, then you should be fine in a few days. Make sure you give yourself adequate time to recover and replenish your glycogen stores.
- 08-11-2010, 12:54 PM
Time for a refeed Paleo style. This is mainly what I was referring to when I said that you can't eat straight Paleo and train this much. Every 2-3 days, eat some sweet potatoes with honey or raisins along with your lean protein.M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-11-2010, 01:05 PM
08-11-2010, 02:03 PM
08-11-2010, 05:04 PM
Sounds like you just over-worked yourself. When I've taxed my CNS, I've felt the same way. Rest,and food will get you back up and kicking ass.
08-11-2010, 05:17 PM
thanks guys thats what im gonna do. got this huge tattoo on my side finally filled in so cant really exercise for awhile anyway
08-11-2010, 06:14 PM
just for laughs
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remember that even in paleo diets, there were the root vegetables.
08-11-2010, 06:37 PM
ah cant watch it at work. yea im all for root vegetables, im gonna get my potatoes on as soon as i get home
08-11-2010, 07:43 PM
08-11-2010, 08:18 PM
that guy is refreshingly straightforwards, and does understand biochemistry pretty well. He was talking about high protein diets and how gluconeogenesis ends up with most of the proteins acting like carbs anyhow, except causing more liver + kidney strain in the process.
08-11-2010, 08:55 PM
I'm not trying to freak you out, but a word to the wise... Too much overtraining for too long can lead to serious problems. I was preparing for a spec ops program and kept training like nothing was wrong. I eventually found myself in an endocrinologist's office getting cosyntropin stimulation tests, cortisol measurements, all that great stuff because I just kept pushing till my body started breaking down. It took months off to recover. Best to take the time off early when you first start feeling it and manage your recovery so you can come back quickly.
Good luck to you!
08-12-2010, 11:09 AM
08-12-2010, 11:31 AM
Depending on your work load, sometimes it's better to train a little less in order to get a few more hours of sleep.
08-12-2010, 12:03 PM
Yep, rest up until you feel 100%...and don't lie to yourself. Take choline and GH boosters to speed recovery.
08-13-2010, 11:12 AM
08-13-2010, 11:30 AM
08-13-2010, 01:36 PM
08-13-2010, 02:27 PM
08-13-2010, 02:58 PM
i usually take days off here and there but I feel like not getting full sleep is what really ran me down. i dont remember last time i slept for 8+ hours for a week straight, and ive been training as hard as i can for a long time
08-13-2010, 04:14 PM
08-15-2010, 02:39 PM
08-15-2010, 07:14 PM
The doc basically told me that if I didn't stop training, I would cause permanent damage to my body. My cortisol level was 24 ug/dl, and I believe 3 ug/dl is considered normal. On top of that, my WBC was down like I had some kind of immune disorder. Natually, I didn't take the doc seriously and tried to continue with just strength work and nothing more. Then when bones started breaking, it was a real wake up call. Sustained high levels of cortisol are just as damaging to the body as sustained high levels of cortisone. Think about it this way, the doc gives you a cortisone shot so you can go out and finish training, but you know that the cortisone is actually weakening the tissues in that area. When your cortisol is topped out, it's like having cortisone through your whole body.
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