To Eat or Not to Eat, Before Bed?
- 03-19-2009, 12:10 PM
To Eat or Not to Eat, Before Bed?
After having a discussion with a biochemist and two doctors, I have personally decided to quit eating a protein meal before bed. Instead I am just taking glutamine to help keep the nitrogen levels up, and glycine, lysine and gaba. This way I do not have an insulin response. Eating before bed can also affect sleep, and be problems later in life with eating, I guess. Anybody have any educated comments? I do have a protein meal about 2 hours before this though.
- 03-19-2009, 12:23 PM
2 hours before is pretty close to being before bed. i consider the meal i have an hour before my "eating before bed" meal.
- 03-19-2009, 12:44 PM
Yeah, if I eat something like chicken, 2 to 3 hours before bed, it should be digested, then I take the BCAA's right beofre bed.
03-19-2009, 01:05 PM
Have a protein shake with a mixture of proteins. Eating before bed is not going to hurt you in any way. Your body digests your food, specifically protein, so slowly that you will not be able to avoid a catabolic state later the next day without having eaten before bed and upon waking. Think of it this way... when you eat your body is constantly breaking your protein down into amino acids. Those aminos are available for your body to use whenever it needs them. Your body won't let you know it needs them. If they are there... it uses them... if not it will break down some of your muscle tissue into amino acids for its current needs. This alone is reason enough to eat consistently and frequently throughout the entire day, including before bedtime. I hope this helps.
03-19-2009, 01:11 PM
03-19-2009, 02:05 PM
Thanks Wilder, for the reply. Sounds like you are informed. Do you have a link to any of those studies? I want to get my diet dialed in for the best gain possible, naturally. Thanks.
03-19-2009, 02:31 PM
I don't have the specific links, but I think you can find the references and exact studies on MD's website or possibly Dr. Scott Connelly's site.
03-19-2009, 10:19 PM
03-19-2009, 10:30 PM
03-19-2009, 11:31 PM
6am - meal 1
8am - aminos -Gym
10am post gym meal 2, then 30-60 minute nap
12 noon meal 3
2pm-aminos gym round 2
4pm-post gym meal 4, 30-60 minute nap
7pm -meal 5
9pm-aminos, then sleep
1am- meal 6, sleep
There were a myriad of other factors that came into play with retrospect to IGF, insulin acts directly on the muscle to drive amino acids into the muscle cells for protein synthesis. Your thoughts Beast?
03-20-2009, 04:00 AM
03-20-2009, 07:31 AM
I eat cottage cheese before bed, about 1 hr. I noticed results. I have no fancy studies to back it up tho.
03-20-2009, 07:36 AM
Well cottage cheese is good bc its more cassein than whey. If it was just whey then maybe 1 or 2 hours give or take it will be gone. Maybe something like a cassein shake or something like Syntha-6 or Mucsle milk would be great too before bed. Sometimes at night if I feel the need to eat again I would just do a shake really. Just so I can avoid carbs and feed what my body really wants...protein.
03-20-2009, 07:42 AM
03-20-2009, 09:28 AM
Dedlifter, I used to eat cottage cheese before bed too. I would go through over a big tub of it in a day. Still love the stuff, but was just worried about my sodium intake being too high, so I eat it only once a day now. I still wonder if taking the aminos before bed is better than the cottage cheese. I might not ever know. I miss my cottage cheese though. So quick and convenient. Very expensive though.
03-20-2009, 03:13 PM
Were you taking exogenous insulin, GH, of IGF-1, because that would make some degree of difference? However, immediately pre and post workout I agree that BCAAs are better than a meal. As a doctor he should also be aware that it is impossible to keep GH high 24hours a day, especially if you are increasing insulin levels, whether it be through natural or chemical means. Typically, when GH is high, insulin will be low and vice versa. My personal opinion is that it is optimal to maintain 6-8 protein meals per day and taking BCAAs between each meal and pre/post workout if you have the wherewithall to do so. Pre bed I still believe eating a protein meal vs. BCAA will keep your GH as high as possible, your protein synthesis and nitrogen balance optimal, and flow of aminos to the muscles throughout the entire night steadier.
03-20-2009, 09:05 PM
03-22-2009, 05:36 PM
03-22-2009, 06:18 PM
I ALWAYS eat before bed, even if its just cereal. and im at like 8% bodyfat. I do it because im a hard gainer and the more calories i eat the better. also my body can still get nutrients while i sleep. if i dont eat before bed i wake up starving and i feel like im anorexic.
03-22-2009, 11:00 PM
I eat about 2.5hrs before bed, then about 30mins pre-bed I take Somnidren GH, ZMK, Purple Wrath, ALCAR, and VitC.
03-22-2009, 11:16 PM
2 hours before bed and if im still hungry.. top it off with a protein shake with an extra scoop jus to fill me up
03-22-2009, 11:22 PM
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