The Refeed/carb up MEGA thread..

[WittyName]

FWIW I take NR-Ala during the load and I find myself being able to get more carbs and not feel the bloat.

[John Smeton]

Honestly i dont think it is a big deal.. I mean if i am eating 1500-2k gms of carbs, and 1-200grams of them are from fructose, i am not really worried about it..

I agree so many people overanlyze and confuse people when they themselves are going by studies what some geek that never competed , in this case writes for flex.

or with training some guy that does all the science studies and cant get big to save his life, but post the study that you have to get do this in order to get big but has been training a good amount of time and is a pencil neck geek.(again I'm not bashing people who don't train I'm bashing people who have been training 5 plus years and don't look like they even weight lift and telling me that i have to do this to get big) they overcomplicated things. one of my good friends is like this.

[pmiller383]

Do you guys prefer a liquid carb after your depletion workout or a solid meal?
I have been using 30-80g's of Dextrose + PeptoPro after my depletion workout and then eating a solid meal about 1 hour later, but I don't really know how much its helping me.

During my carb ups I go through a ton of Nature's Valley Granola bars, the things are awesome. I might try making my own Granola this week to see if I can save a little money and just make it taste better. What is everyone elses favorites for their carb-ups? Also how long do you usually have your Carb Up last?

[ThomasRivera]

Ive done about 5 of these in twelve weeks thus far.

good information in here.

The main thing is be lean enough when going into a competition so you don't have to go super low carb. the more your in shape the less you have to do the pre-contest diet or some of the methods Thomas is talking about either for competition or a photo shoot.

have you been on stage in a competition or done a photo shoot where you done what your saying Thomas

No, i've entertained the thoughts of getting on stage, I had bulked up to about 220 and I was starting on a cut, but my father passed away almost a year ago so I gave up training and dieting to deal with things.

[John Smeton]

No, i've entertained the thoughts of getting on stage, I had bulked up to about 220 and I was starting on a cut, but my father passed away almost a year ago so I gave up training and dieting to deal with things.

gotcha.

[John Smeton]

Do you guys prefer a liquid carb after your depletion workout or a solid meal?
I have been using 30-80g's of Dextrose + PeptoPro after my depletion workout and then eating a solid meal about 1 hour later, but I don't really know how much its helping me.

During my carb ups I go through a ton of Nature's Valley Granola bars, the things are awesome. I might try making my own Granola this week to see if I can save a little money and just make it taste better. What is everyone elses favorites for their carb-ups? Also how long do you usually have your Carb Up last?

I always get in fruit post training when going low carb . like an apple or banana..

[ThomasRivera]

I never got into that guy. too much for me to read. does he even look like he know whats hes doing i don't know I never saw him.

I don't think he's too big. The science behind his work is there. I've read through the book a few times by now.

I know a lot of people drink Gatorade to start off their carb-ups, which is a good source of liquid carbs, but do not drink powerade. Powerade is made with High Fructose Corn Syrup while Gatorade is made with sucrose, I believe.

I say forget that. Your favorite fruit juice mix, a few scoops of dextrose or malodextrin and a bit of lower sodium salt (contains potassium), thats home made gatorade/powerade for you.

Do you guys prefer a liquid carb after your depletion workout or a solid meal?
I have been using 30-80g's of Dextrose + PeptoPro after my depletion workout and then eating a solid meal about 1 hour later, but I don't really know how much its helping me.

During my carb ups I go through a ton of Nature's Valley Granola bars, the things are awesome. I might try making my own Granola this week to see if I can save a little money and just make it taste better. What is everyone elses favorites for their carb-ups? Also how long do you usually have your Carb Up last?

I prefer solid to be honest. Or a mix of the two. I like some lemonade and airheads maybe a few slices of bread.

I usually have my carb ups for 48 hours. I go all out usually. Eat whatever is low fat and high in carbohydrates. I do get cravings for weird things on my carb loads. But I think thats after going low carb for so long anything I eat with my normal meals I want to eat with my carb meals.

You haven't lived until you've eaten peanut butter banana and jalepeno sandwiches.

[Rhyno]

I never got into that guy. too much for me to read. does he even look like he know whats hes doing i don't know I never saw him.

Lyle McDonald definatly know's his sh*t. UD 2.0, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook, The Ketogenic Diet, Stubborn Fat Loss Solution...enough said.

[John Smeton]

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I just stared my refeed about an hour ago, and meal 1 is in the books, and looked like this(only tracking approximate carbs and fat, i dont count protein)

4x Rice Crispy Treats

4x Ego Waffles

1/4-cup maple syrup

1x Bagel with light smart balance butter

1x Mike and Ike

1x Sour Punch Straws

2x Baked Ruffles

2x- Reece's puffs cereal in whey isolate(water)

1x Oreo pudding pie(lowfat crust) 1/4 pie eaten

8oz-gatorade
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Fat-50.5
Carbs-525

I keep drinking liquids to a minimum.. I only drink very small amounts of liquid when thirsty as it really inhibits my ability to eat carbs, and bloats me up.

what is a Mike and Ike and Sour Punch Straws? are the sour punch straws like pixie sticks full on sweet multi-colored sugar?


do you drink 1-2 gallons the day before and the day after?

[John Smeton]

Lyle McDonald definatly know's his sh*t. UD 2.0, Rapid Fat Loss Handbook, The Ketogenic Diet, Stubborn Fat Loss Solution...enough said.

Good for him I'm glad he could sell his ideas in a book and make money off of them.

[Rugger]

FYI-

As warning, after following 6 weeks of bulking style ckd, I developed acid reflux. Be careful.

[Frank Reynolds]

FYI-

As warning, after following 6 weeks of bulking style ckd, I developed acid reflux. Be careful.

What do you attribute this to?

[AMTorres]

I'm doing a CKD recomp, can you point me in the right direction for a CKD bulk cycle?

[Frank Reynolds]

I'm doing a CKD recomp, can you point me in the right direction for a CKD bulk cycle?

It really is just a matter of total cals...

[AMTorres]

It really is just a matter of total cals...

So it's a cut and a bulk at the same time? If I use it as a bulk are there any supps you suggest not taking with it?

[JudoJosh]

FYI-

As warning, after following 6 weeks of bulking style ckd, I developed acid reflux. Be careful.

probably all the milk in ur body.. I sometimes get it and doc says milk..I sometimes get lil rashes and dry spots on my body if I eat too much wtuff with milk in it..

[John Smeton]

So it's a cut and a bulk at the same time? If I use it as a bulk are there any supps you suggest not taking with it?

there's a post Dante Trudel talks about this . that's the one post that helped me understand.i copy and posted it in the Dc thread. can we keep this on refeed/carb up topic like the title states?

awesome Thread Impres! just not that many people know what it is and they are missing out.

[WittyName]

During the NP sale I picked up some of bsn's cheat tabs, going to throw these in during my next load. When I get everything in I will be logging it. Will let you all know how it works along with my NR-ALA.

[ThomasRivera]

During the NP sale I picked up some of bsn's cheat tabs, going to throw these in during my next load. When I get everything in I will be logging it. Will let you all know how it works along with my NR-ALA.

Why would you want to use those with a carb load? That's pretty much the antithesis to what you want during a carb load.

[WittyName]

From me if I think to hardly about carbs I get fat and bloat. I think it will provide me a bit of a safety net as I have not fully mastered the load. I have noticed that the addition of ALA lets me eat about a 100 more grams without seeing or feeling the bloat. But Thomas you seem to have a pretty good grasp on this would you suggest foregoing these?