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    Quote Originally Posted by powerhouse21 View Post
    hmm so i should be fine adding about 3 grams of formestane to the abliderate and just shaking it up?
    3 grams should be fine to add and shake. See the Formestane thread for more info iff you have any mixing problems, but from straight saturation point you are good.
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    how long before i would start to see results in my abdominal region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerhouse21 View Post
    how long before i would start to see results in my abdominal region.
    For me, and the people I have recommended it to, reduction in waist size becomes apparent after 2-3 days, and begins to rapidly accelerate after 1 1/2 weeks.

    I am back down into 32 waist, at a bodyweight of 215...down over 2 inches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    For me, and the people I have recommended it to, reduction in waist size becomes apparent after 2-3 days, and begins to rapidly accelerate after 1 1/2 weeks.

    I am back down into 32 waist, at a bodyweight of 215...down over 2 inches.
    That's impressive!

    Are you/ do you think you'll be able to maintain the majority of it when you cycle off it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    For me, and the people I have recommended it to, reduction in waist size becomes apparent after 2-3 days, and begins to rapidly accelerate after 1 1/2 weeks.

    I am back down into 32 waist, at a bodyweight of 215...down over 2 inches.
    dsade,

    Is this with abliderate alone, or plus 11-oxo, or abliderate+form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    dsade,

    Is this with abliderate alone, or plus 11-oxo, or abliderate+form?
    yeah id like to know that and also how many pumps are you using per day?
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    I am using Abliderate alone. I stopped running 11-OXO for now.

    I am using 4 squirts in the morning (after shower) and 4 squirts before bed.
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    I just started yesterday and i noticed right after i apply it, my stomach gets warm... its not painful at all its actually kinda nice. I also applied a little to my chest and lower back to help out those areas as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    ok...

    8 ounces (240ml) of Abliderate contains 6 grams of 7OXO. Recommended dose is around 4 pumps. At 2ml per pump, this is 8ml per application.

    So each application should be around 100mg.
    Does this application apply with the 5gms of formestane in the abliderate?
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    If you wanted to add in capsacin to this mix could you just add normal powder that you can get from grocery store?
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    hey does anyone know if i can put ephedrine + caffiene inside abliderate or ephedrine in the bulk lipo-y to increase its effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    a frosted coating of flabby goodness.
    That's what I have not for long though! Me --><-- Fatty flabbinezz

    *P.S* Choose Abliderate or formestane? Which is better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I am using Abliderate alone. I stopped running 11-OXO for now.

    I am using 4 squirts in the morning (after shower) and 4 squirts before bed.
    Why did you stop using 11-oxo and how many mgs a day were you taking
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    Why did you stop using 11-oxo and how many mgs a day were you taking
    I stopped using 11-OXO because it had been a couple of years since I had used Ab...liderate. I wanted to give it a fair shake.

    I was pleased with 11-OXO, but I think too much systemic cortisol suppression is detrimental. I will be adding back the 11-OXO at low dosage soon.

    I was taking 3-4 caps a day, and notice reduction in waist size. When I went to Abliderate, the results were much more dramatic. I am now wearing my 32s, and they are loose in the waist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I stopped using 11-OXO because it had been a couple of years since I had used Ab...liderate. I wanted to give it a fair shake.

    I was pleased with 11-OXO, but I think too much systemic cortisol suppression is detrimental. I will be adding back the 11-OXO at low dosage soon.

    I was taking 3-4 caps a day, and notice reduction in waist size. When I went to Abliderate, the results were much more dramatic. I am now wearing my 32s, and they are loose in the waist.
    Will be starting monday with abliberate and 11-oxo,so at low dosage 2 caps a day ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post

    I was taking 3-4 caps a day, and notice reduction in waist size. When I went to Abliderate, the results were much more dramatic. I am now wearing my 32s, and they are loose in the waist.
    this is gonna be in my next order then, i haven't worn my 32s since probably 6th grade
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I stopped using 11-OXO because it had been a couple of years since I had used Ab...liderate. I wanted to give it a fair shake.

    I was pleased with 11-OXO, but I think too much systemic cortisol suppression is detrimental. I will be adding back the 11-OXO at low dosage soon.

    I was taking 3-4 caps a day, and notice reduction in waist size. When I went to Abliderate, the results were much more dramatic. I am now wearing my 32s, and they are loose in the waist.
    good damn it, i always read these good threads 20 mins after confirming an order....

    damn australian shipping fee's.

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    I recall that later versions of Absolved contained a certain amount of sesathin. Would it be useful to add some bulk sesathin to a bottle of Abliderate? If so, how much sesathin should be added?
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    I would add about 1/2 ounce per 8 ounces.
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    localized 7-oxo already has a pronounced PPAR-agonizing effect.
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    I got 2 bottles of abliderate and 5g of formestane and I was trying to think of what else would be and effective addition to the carrier... Yohimbine? Would it make sense to add ALCAR to a transdermal preparation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego View Post
    I got 2 bottles of abliderate and 5g of formestane and I was trying to think of what else would be and effective addition to the carrier... Yohimbine? Would it make sense to add ALCAR to a transdermal preparation?
    ALCAR might work...yohimbine won't...RKs WOULD work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    ALCAR might work...yohimbine won't...RKs WOULD work.
    Do you think it would make sense to add ALCAR, in other words... would you do it??? and if so, how much in the 8oz. bottle? Would RKs be better?

    Also, I live in Phoenix, AZ so naturally I sweat alot during the day. And I sweat PROFUSELY in the gym. Will this hinder the effectiveness of the TD? Will my sweat and my wet t-shirt in the gym wash off the product from my skin and diminish further absorbtion? I have never used a TD preparation before and am intrigued by the concept

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego View Post
    Also, I live in Phoenix, AZ so naturally I sweat alot during the day. And I sweat PROFUSELY in the gym. Will this hinder the effectiveness of the TD? Will my sweat and my wet t-shirt in the gym wash off the product from my skin and diminish further absorbtion? I have never used a TD preparation before and am intrigued by the concept

    Thanks
    I'm right there with you. I'm in AZ too and running some Lipo-RK. I just try to make sure I let it dry for about 15 minutes before putting a shirt on and about an hour or two, if I can, before sweating a lot(working or going to the gym).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    I'm right there with you. I'm in AZ too and running some Lipo-RK. I just try to make sure I let it dry for about 15 minutes before putting a shirt on and about an hour or two, if I can, before sweating a lot(working or going to the gym).
    Word thanks Ryan. You doing that Nov. 3rd show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego View Post
    Word thanks Ryan. You doing that Nov. 3rd show?
    Actually the Nov. 10th. The one on the 3rd is in Flag, but the one I'm doing the next weekend is in PHX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Actually the Nov. 10th. The one on the 3rd is in Flag, but the one I'm doing the next weekend is in PHX.
    Oh, my bad, I thought it was the other way around, LOL. Sweet, how's your prep coming along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego View Post
    Oh, my bad, I thought it was the other way around, LOL. Sweet, how's your prep coming along?
    Goin good so far, thanks for asking.

    Sittin at about 207 so I got a ways to go, but I'm trying to do it slower this time to hold on to as much muscle as possible. I started 18 weeks out, as opposed to 14 like the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Goin good so far, thanks for asking.

    Sittin at about 207 so I got a ways to go, but I'm trying to do it slower this time to hold on to as much muscle as possible. I started 18 weeks out, as opposed to 14 like the last one.
    Awesome! I'm sure you will place well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego View Post
    Awesome! I'm sure you will place well!
    Thanks brother, I'll let you know how it's goin as I get closer to showtime.
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    So this comes as a kit right, with the 5g 7oxo on the side?

    I'm hoping so , I ordered it with the intent on adding 5g formestane and some RK's and leaving out the 7oxo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    So this comes as a kit right, with the 5g 7oxo on the side?

    I'm hoping so , I ordered it with the intent on adding 5g formestane and some RK's and leaving out the 7oxo
    Actually, for these first batches they are premixed...but you should have plenty of room to add the form and some RKs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Actually, for these first batches they are premixed...but you should have plenty of room to add the form and some RKs.
    I should have asked before ordering i guess

    There's plenty of room though? Thats awesome!

    I was looking to add like 5g of formestane, do you still think I can squeeze in some RK's?

    I just don't want to oversaturate and have to buy an additional batch to make up for it.

    from my research it looks like the 5g form will be hard enough to get in there, let alone adding RK...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    I should have asked before ordering i guess

    There's plenty of room though? Thats awesome!

    I was looking to add like 5g of formestane, do you still think I can squeeze in some RK's?

    I just don't want to oversaturate and have to buy an additional batch to make up for it.

    from my research it looks like the 5g form will be hard enough to get in there, let alone adding RK...
    Just an update for anyone wondering about how much actives you can get into this stuff....

    On top of the 6g 7oxo, I added 5g Formestane and another 1.5g Raspberry Ketones already with no problems, and no added heat (just shaking). Looks to be fine, I'm even thinking of adding a little more RK to the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    Just an update for anyone wondering about how much actives you can get into this stuff....

    On top of the 6g 7oxo, I added 5g Formestane and another 1.5g Raspberry Ketones already with no problems, and no added heat (just shaking). Looks to be fine, I'm even thinking of adding a little more RK to the mix.
    RKs are hard to get into solution but, in my experience, they can sit in suspension just fine and still be effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    RKs are hard to get into solution but, in my experience, they can sit in suspension just fine and still be effective.
    dsade / anyone esle.........im a 33 yr old male. What would u suggest if i were to buy the ABLIDERATE? Should i buy additional actives such as RK, form. , 7oxo, etc.

    What results have you had and what are u currently using in your ABLIDERATE. Should i just go with the straight abliderate, or go ahead and really ramp it up by purchasing simple actives such as form. & RK?

    thanks man
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    Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    dsade / anyone esle.........im a 33 yr old male. What would u suggest if i were to buy the ABLIDERATE? Should i buy additional actives such as RK, form. , 7oxo, etc.

    What results have you had and what are u currently using in your ABLIDERATE. Should i just go with the straight abliderate, or go ahead and really ramp it up by purchasing simple actives such as form. & RK?

    thanks man
    I added 5 grams of Form and had exceptional results with chest and ab fat. I just placed another order. Can't go wrong with this stack. I'll try RK with the next purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGSky View Post
    I added 5 grams of Form and had exceptional results with chest and ab fat. I just placed another order. Can't go wrong with this stack. I'll try RK with the next purchase.
    Agreed...this is a winning combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGSky View Post
    I added 5 grams of Form and had exceptional results with chest and ab fat. I just placed another order. Can't go wrong with this stack. I'll try RK with the next purchase.
    Like i said 1.5g RK in there along with the 7oxo and 5g form.

    how much RK will you be adding?
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