Havoc dosages for Dsade

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  1. Havoc dosages for Dsade


    Dsade,

    Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

    Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious


  2. Good question....i was thinking of running it as high as 50 or 60.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Dsade,

    Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

    Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious
    whoa 100mg.. I think it really depends on the bodyweight, there has to be a point where such a high dose dose not have such positive effects as you would expect.
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  4. yeah, I think that would be pushing it a little bit too high and would do nothing but give your liver more hell that it deserves. every prohormone converts in the body via anenzymatic reaction to some active target hormone. the body has only a limited amount of enzymes to convert a single type of PH to an active form of a hormone. your body can only use what it can actually convert so a lot of those 100 mg would go to waste and just tax your liver.

  5. I got to 40mg for a few days and the back pumps sucked ass. I dropped it back down to 30mg and I was fine and I'm about 270. Just my .02

  6. I didn't have any side effects or problems running it at 40mg for 2+ weeks. My bw is about 210 right now

  7. i usually dont get back pumps :knockonwood: I plan on pushing the threshold with this havoc/epi compound.

  8. "40" mgs gave me horrendous back pumps. Everything else felt great.

  9. Could it be people are more sensative to say 40mg and others are not? Could it mean it works better for others or the same..I got good results off 40mg and I really wanted to try 50mg

  10. Quote Originally Posted by 2fresh View Post
    Could it be people are more sensative to say 40mg and others are not? Could it mean it works better for others or the same..I got good results off 40mg and I really wanted to try 50mg
    Could be. 30mg seemed like it was plenty for me. At 40mg it was tough to move around without getting back pumps. Plus I didn't use any taurine either. Taurine will be included with all future PH cycles I do.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Dsade,

    Tried to PM you but your inbox is full!!

    Has anyone tried a higher dose of Havoc yet? Somewhere between the 70-100 mg/day mark? Just curious
    Sorry for missing this. If you know the nature of my personality and curiosity, you can bet that "someone" has gone with insanely high dosages.

    This will have to be taken private, due to my position with the company and the fact that soime people will misinterpret this as "recommendation".
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  12. BOOOOO I applaud grexx for the question though. Hey Dsade could you pm with the same info...

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Apowerz6 View Post
    BOOOOO I applaud grexx for the question though. Hey Dsade could you pm with the same info...
    Me as well

  14. also a bit interested..

  15. Quote Originally Posted by 2fresh View Post
    Could it be people are more sensative to say 40mg and others are not? Could it mean it works better for others or the same..I got good results off 40mg and I really wanted to try 50mg
    Hmm...thats a good point, I ran 40 for 3 weeks, and felt great, no back pumps, no real sides other than some aggression, strength was up, weight was up, lost some fat, diet was poor, drank tons of water, definitely gonna run it again, and wouldnt start with less than 40 ed.

  16. Edited for Safety.
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  17. Dsade, have about 12 bottles sitting in your closet?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    Dsade, have about 12 bottles sitting in your closet?
    I thought you brought them with you when you came out of the closet?
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  19. I was so excited I left them behind.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I was so excited I left them behind.



    I am actually on havoc right now as we speak and have upped it to 50mgs with no problem so far. I have a whole extra bottle outside of the one i just opened so maybe ill play with this a weeeee little bit :-D..

  21. I loved the stuff 100% but my budget read:wife only allows me to get so much, so often. I'll be taking a break after this Jungle Warfare blood test run and then running Havoc again.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    wife only allows me to get so much, so often.
    Always back to the sex talk.
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  23. You know me...My thirst is unquenchable.

  24. Sweet, I may get this up to 60mg if I am not having problems....obviously there is a balance in terms of gains vs sides but I'll judge that as I go.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Sweet, I may get this up to 60mg if I am not having problems....obviously there is a balance in terms of gains vs sides but I'll judge that as I go.
    There's also a limit of other factors in the equation. IMO there's no point in pushing the envelope on higher dosages if you're getting good results with the lower ones. It is much more feasible to just eat more food! Steak will put mass on you in a way steroids only dream they could.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    There's also a limit of other factors in the equation. IMO there's no point in pushing the envelope on higher dosages if you're getting good results with the lower ones. It is much more feasible to just eat more food! Steak will put mass on you in a way steroids only dream they could.
    Agree 100%. Its always hard to tell. I wonder if I could run it at 20mg for 4 weeks and get the same results. Often you get impatient b/c your not "feeling" anything right away so your first idea is to just raise the dosage....which may not always be necessary. But then say you only run it at 20mgs and dont gain much then you have to start pct and time off just to wait to run another cycle. Bit of a catch 22...im rambling...

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    Agree 100%. Its always hard to tell. I wonder if I could run it at 20mg for 4 weeks and get the same results. Often you get impatient b/c your not "feeling" anything right away so your first idea is to just raise the dosage....which may not always be necessary. But then say you only run it at 20mgs and dont gain much then you have to start post cycle therapy and time off just to wait to run another cycle. Bit of a catch 22...im rambling...
    It's best to start (IMO) with a medium-sized dose. I like to start low when running a completely new compound. However, there's no point (IMO) in trying to push it too far: you're just run the risk of buring out your receptors (making it harder to gain in future cycles) just to try and gain an extra 1/2 pound.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    There's also a limit of other factors in the equation. IMO there's no point in pushing the envelope on higher dosages if you're getting good results with the lower ones. It is much more feasible to just eat more food! Steak will put mass on you in a way steroids only dream they could.
    This is entirely the point, and my posts here should be considered academic only.

    I don't think I will post again in this thread, since it seems to be being taken exactly as I did NOT want it to.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    This is entirely the point, and my posts here should be considered academic only.

    I don't think I will post again in this thread, since it seems to be being taken exactly as I did NOT want it to.
    Yeah, the last thing ANYONE needs is to hear of someone running their first ever cycle with a daily dose of 120mg of Havoc. That just opens doors wide open for health problems, lawsuits, and not-so-clever puns involving "Wreaked Havoc"

    So (on a serious note) if you're reading this thread in thoughts of taking Havoc, please, DON'T BE STUPID!
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  30. I deleted my post above. Any mature, scientific questions should be directed to me via email at mpearson@recomp.com.
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  31. And any porn of women on women or anything with an amputee.

  32. Preferably Amputee women on women action, with stump-penetration.
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Preferably Amputee women on women action, with stump-penetration.
    Stump-to-Rump!!!!!!!!!

    Nothing like some hardcore STR to get me revving.
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Stump-to-Rump!!!!!!!!!

    Nothing like some hardcore STR to get me revving.


    Wow, that was amazing.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dsade again.
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  35. stump penetration......this is a sick sick world....

  36. you guys are hilarious

    Yes, this topic was not taken as I orginally intended it to be. Just curious for the compound, not the whole receptor safety issue

  37. grexx, I've taken it upward of 50mgs for a week and 60mgs for a day. I'd be more then happy to share with you. Shoot me a PM if you want.

  38. Next time around Im deff thinking about running it 40/40/50/60 depending on how the end of the 2nd week feels..

    Note I ran Havoc at the end of my cycle and I didn't have ANY side effects. Just benefits..

    I've ran Superdrol twice before and handled 30mgs for over 2 weeks without any problems just mild lathergy/pumps.

    I really wonder how these orals are effected by how good someones digestion system is...For me it seems wierd cause I take Digestive enzymes/Probiotics blahh blahhh almost every day and still don't notice a diff till get off something. If there is a diff it doesnt seem to be very great..

    Next time I'll try being more aware and write down some stats

  39. Quote Originally Posted by 2fresh View Post
    Next time around Im deff thinking about running it 40/40/50/60 depending on how the end of the 2nd week feels..

    Note I ran Havoc at the end of my cycle and I didn't have ANY side effects. Just benefits..

    I've ran Superdrol twice before and handled 30mgs for over 2 weeks without any problems just mild lathergy/pumps.

    I really wonder how these orals are effected by how good someones digestion system is...For me it seems wierd cause I take Digestive enzymes/Probiotics blahh blahhh almost every day and still don't notice a diff till get off something. If there is a diff it doesnt seem to be very great..

    Next time I'll try being more aware and write down some stats
    Were you taking with food or an on an empty stomach?
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  40. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Were you taking with food or an on an empty stomach?
    id like to know as well.
  

  
 

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