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    DCP / BERBERINE The Gut-B-Gone Log


    Well I will officially start tomorrow with more detailed info but we"ll start now!

    Weight 226lbs AM
    Height 5'9" all the time


    waist 38" at button
    thigh 25 1/4"
    bicep 17 1/2"
    chest 49"
    All will be cold flexed.

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    2) Concentrated fish oil 2gmx3
    3) Taurine 2gmx3
    4) AlCar 1gmX3
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    8) ALA 300mg X3
    9) BCAA 5gm X2 WO only
    10) DCP 3x3 1st wk then 2X3 remainder
    11) Berberine 300mg X 3

    Routine= Mid to low volume 3way split (3x5 & 4x6 compound movements) 4x8-10(iso movements)

    Diet= Eating 5 meals a day 300-350gm protein multiple sources the rest hasnt changed still eat what I want as to be more objective.That being stated Ill still be eating crap whenever I want.Ill try to keep a calorie count.

    I will be doing no cardio.

    Im 4lbs lighter now than in these pictures.

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    Looking huge man, I think you have the perfect base phys to see just how well DCP will be.
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    If youre implying plenty of fat over muscle youre correct!

    In all seriousness Thanks for the complement.


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    Naaa man never that. I'm implying that you have a lot untouch aesthetic capabilities that will make it easy to gauge DCP/Ber effects.
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    Pretty bold of you to post a mug like that! lol, j/k. Good luck with your DCP man, we gotta all help each other out! BTW your gonna sweat your ass off when you eat!
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    Dont let the MUG SHOT fool you Im much better looking at a distance.

    Also I know that theres alot of untouched asthetic potential under my winter coat.Cant wait to see it.

    Thanks guys.


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    Good luck bro. Watching your log along with the others very close...
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    Woke up dosed my supps waited 30 min ate breakfast and waited to lift.

    heart rate

    AM 70-75 bpm

    after 3 DCP 90-100bpm

    during training 140-150bpm (NO CARDIO)

    Now still 100 bpm

    After taking my initial dose of DCP/BERB (1/2hr) started to feel energized.Kind of like I wanted to smash something(ephedra like BUT without the shakes)

    Went into my gym and started to train-the weights felt light endurance was very good(never got winded and didnt feel fatigue until my last 3 of my final set of skull crushers.)Very impressed.

    Part way into the session the sweats started;BTW in my basement where my power rack and weights are its 60 degrees.It was a good sweat not profuse but very good none the less.

    Right now I feel very warm especially my face it feels wind burned. Im not sweating but I also work amongst racks of equiptment(air comditioning runs 24/7) and its only 65 degrees and Im in a t shirt.

    I feel very alert and clear but not euphoric.Im liking this combo.Ill take my body temp tomorrow if I remember.

    Tomorrow im upping my dose of DCP to 4X3 as Im jealous of the others who are disguistingly persperating while doing nothing.LOL

    SO IN A NUTSHELL
    strength is up.
    endurance is up
    motivation(agression) and energy are up.
    mental focus is up.
    body temp is up.
    BMR is up 20% +

    This ought to be able to do some damage to the fat stores in a short amount of time and pack on some lean mass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    Woke up dosed my supps waited 30 min ate breakfast and waited to lift.

    heart rate

    AM 70-75 bpm

    after 3 DCP 90-100bpm

    during training 140-150bpm (NO CARDIO)

    Now still 100 bpm

    After taking my initial dose of DCP/BERB (1/2hr) started to feel energized.Kind of like I wanted to smash something(ephedra like BUT without the shakes)

    Went into my gym and started to train-the weights felt light endurance was very good(never got winded and didnt feel fatigue until my last 3 of my final set of skull crushers.)Very impressed.

    Part way into the session the sweats started;BTW in my basement where my power rack and weights are its 60 degrees.It was a good sweat not profuse but very good none the less.

    Right now I feel very warm especially my face it feels wind burned. Im not sweating but I also work amongst racks of equiptment(air comditioning runs 24/7) and its only 65 degrees and Im in a t shirt.

    I feel very alert and clear but not euphoric.Im liking this combo.Ill take my body temp tomorrow if I remember.

    Tomorrow im upping my dose of DCP to 4X3 as Im jealous of the others who are disguistingly persperating while doing nothing.LOL

    SO IN A NUTSHELL
    strength is up.
    endurance is up
    motivation(agression) and energy are up.
    mental focus is up.
    body temp is up.
    BMR is up 20% +

    This ought to be able to do some damage to the fat stores in a short amount of time and pack on some lean mass.
    So far so good!!
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    GREAT log so far.
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    Thanks


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    Looking good!
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    And thank you also kind sir.


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    Dude - You are huge. Nice!
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    Thanks haiz69 Ill be huger and leaner by time this is done!


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    Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns
    Looking huge man, I think you have the perfect base phys to see just how well DCP will be.

    I was about to say the samething..
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    Thanks you guys are makin me blush.......oh Im sorry thats the wind burnt feeling my face gets on DCP


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    do you notice anything on the BERBERINE?? I was thinking of getting some since ap is taking so damn long to come out.
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    Well I definatley notice a fullness in my muscles not like your typical two hours after pump.Its been 15 hours since training and I still feel full in the muscles.Also Im CRAVING protein and not sugar (although I did have a 3 pack of HoHos at work tonite just for testing purposes of course)


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    mmowry you did you the yg powder,correct? if so this should be interesting seeing you compare this to berberine
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    Quote Originally Posted by wojo
    mmowry you did you the yg powder,correct? if so this should be interesting seeing you compare this to berberine
    No YG .Im just going to rely on my feel and others logs to see the similarities or differences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wojo
    mmowry you did you the yg powder,correct? if so this should be interesting seeing you compare this to berberine
    I got bereberine on the way, I'll be able to make a good a comparison. I like the hoho test. I did a pumpkin pie shake test, from Jack n the Box, I may have to recreate the experiment.
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    Cool you go cat go!!!------all in the name of science


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool
    I got bereberine on the way, I'll be able to make a good a comparison. I like the hoho test. I did a pumpkin pie shake test, from Jack n the Box, I may have to recreate the experiment.
    nice..i got like 150 grams left of YG to go through before i can try this myself..lol
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    Just an update~didnt train today only took my supps.

    DCP-observations

    Energy up
    agression up
    clarity up
    Heart rate up
    Body temp has leveled out(still warm but not on fire)

    FWIW I am extremely resistant to thermos.

    On to the Berberine-

    Took my second dose here at work got side tracked and couldnt get any food into the gullet for almost an hour.Result the body wants to run through a wall=the brain wanted to shut off.Conclusion Hypo effects are very apparent and 5 minutes after eating my brain turned on.So its doing what its claimed to do!

    Also My muscles stayed full all day as opposed to 1-2hrs.
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    I think DCP is really DNP, the sweats are the same. lol.
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    Id love to have DNP for a reference point as thermos have had little to no effect on me.This is 1 of only 2 that have ever raised my temp at all!


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    Dsade would a shift to less carbs be more advantageous to thermogenesis?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    On to the Berberine-

    Took my second dose here at work got side tracked and couldnt get any food into the gullet for almost an hour.Result the body wants to run through a wall=the brain wanted to shut off.Conclusion Hypo effects are very apparent and 5 minutes after eating my brain turned on.So its doing what its claimed to do!

    Also My muscles stayed full all day as opposed to 1-2hrs.
    I retested this twice since and got all kinds of foggy and tired but directly after administration of carbs all was normal again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    Dsade would a shift to less carbs be more advantageous to thermogenesis?
    to thermogenesis, yes....to fatloss, depends on total calories and macro breakdown.
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    When I lost weight the best I was at a 40/20/40 breakdown at maintenance level.Ill switch over and only use carbs post workout and after admin of Berb.Also yesterday was lower carb higher fat so thats what Ill do.Thanks!


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    Hey bro...good log so far. Could you talk about when you're taking the DCP and Berb? I assume on an empty stomach, but timimg wise how does it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    Thanks haiz69 Ill be huger and leaner by time this is done!
    Might I suggest you adopt the well thought out and safety concious protocol being followed by Ray "The Angry Indian" Sausage-Coleman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rampage jackson
    Hey bro...good log so far. Could you talk about when you're taking the DCP and Berb? I assume on an empty stomach, but timimg wise how does it work?
    You got it. Empty stomach first thing in the morning DCP/BERB @8:00 breakfast 8:30 or so. 2nd dose @13:00 followed by food 1/2hr later.Im also going to add a dose 300mg Berb to my Post work out shake/meal.And final dosing @18:00 followed by more food 1/2hr later.

    Ill be weighing myself weekly with final measurements at the end.So far Im liking what Im feeling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau
    Might I suggest you adopt the well thought out and safety concious protocol being followed by Ray "The Angry Indian" Sausage-Coleman?
    Well I was going to administer napalm chasers and sulphuric acid enimas to try to up the effectiveness but Im not quite upto Anal male I mean Alpha male status yet...........but we can dream cant we!


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    DCP-observations

    Aggression up
    heart rate up
    body temp up
    energy/endurance up
    mood/ focus up

    Trained today in the aftrenoon as opposed to evening.Blew through the weight.Major jump in rack deads and jumped weight in all other lifts.Again I only started to fatigue on the last 3 of my last set of rope hammer curls but never got winded.Still very impressed!
    I really heat up when training on this stuff and for a few hours afterwards/far beyond what Im accostomed to.

    I did a little experiment last night and ate 3 DCP before bed on an empty stomach.DO NOT DO this!I slept verywell but when I awoke I had quite q tummy ache


    BERBERINE-observations

    Well Im still feeling full with no fatigue. Dosing 300mgX4 @8,1,6 and post.I took in enough carbs close enough to dosing timeas to not go hypo.Recovery seems to be good now lets just see how much fat gets traided for muscle!
    Earlier I posted I was going to shift my macros well sorry I realized thats unfair to the test and Ill just keep the protein up and eat whatever/whenever I want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    When I lost weight the best I was at a 40/20/40 breakdown at maintenance level.Ill switch over and only use carbs post workout and after admin of Berb.Also yesterday was lower carb higher fat so thats what Ill do.Thanks!
    I'm curious as to how this will work for you. You stated that you felt foggy until you consumed carbs. My question is, is this product basically for someone who be consuming mucho carbs? Would this product work for someone looking to run a low carb diet with a calorie deficit?
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    From what Ive gathered its more a matter of the timing than anything.Ive not cut back un my carbs at all but IM makin sure that I take them in 1/2 hour after administration.So my carbs whether good or bad are added to my protein source which wasnt necessarily my standard practice until now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    From what Ive gathered its more a matter of the timing than anything.Ive not cut back un my carbs at all but IM makin sure that I take them in 1/2 hour after administration.So my carbs whether good or bad are added to my protein source which wasnt necessarily my standard practice until now.
    Yeah that was I'm thinking. So DCP might pose a problem for someone looking to carb cycle on a hypocaloric diet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott72
    Yeah that was I'm thinking. So DCP might pose a problem for someone looking to carb cycle on a hypocaloric diet..
    Im thinking this result is from the Berberine as the DCP frees up fatty acids and uses them as fuel where as the Berberine Jacks up your insulin sensitivity and glucose uptake in muscle.


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