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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs
    We ditched it for a reason.
    Could someone please elaborate on this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebo
    Could someone please elaborate on this??
    IIRC, I heard rumour that they were concerned that 'it' is going the way of Cissus, ie being copied by competition. So, they switched to an 'undisclosed herb' to get the same 'Saponis'. Like I said, it was just hearsay and rumour..

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    I've tried the old powerful and loved it.Deeper sleeps,higher libido,solid pumps and good strength increases.

    But this new powerfull with the 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol(3,4-diol) on the label sure has me wondering. Using it just the same as the old version.But if I have some before hitting the sack (2 caps ) it keeps me wired like I've been drinking coffee or been on the stims.

    Anyone else had this happen? And I'm sure its the powerfull cause it started the first day I started dosing it.

    When are you expecting your muira puama Sam?. Cause I'm keen to try it and see if my deep sleeps return.
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    Basso has also noticed that TSB4me, like you he is a little...older than most though. I've not had that effect with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSB4me
    I've tried the old powerful and loved it.Deeper sleeps,higher libido,solid pumps and good strength increases.

    But this new powerfull with the 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol(3,4-diol) on the label sure has me wondering. Using it just the same as the old version.But if I have some before hitting the sack (2 caps ) it keeps me wired like I've been drinking coffee or been on the stims.

    Anyone else had this happen? And I'm sure its the powerfull cause it started the first day I started dosing it.

    When are you expecting your muira puama Sam?. Cause I'm keen to try it and see if my deep sleeps return.
    Try again and report back please. This should never happen nor has ever happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs
    Try again and report back please. This should never happen nor has ever happened.
    Maybe hje's dosing with REM? I find too much REM, or too much REM/PowerFULL late at night does the same thing to me. I just adjusted the dosage down as I think you advised in another thread. Problem solved, sleep is back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    Maybe hje's dosing with REM? I find too much REM, or too much REM/PowerFULL late at night does the same thing to me. I just adjusted the dosage down as I think you advised in another thread. Problem solved, sleep is back.
    I can second that. I think that's the various doseages of Bacopa at work. I have noticed that low doses of Bacopa can have a stim effect and higher doses seem to knock me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSB4me
    it keeps me wired like I've been drinking coffee or been on the stims.

    Anyone else had this happen? And I'm sure its the powerfull cause it started the first day I started dosing it.
    Dude...i'm out like a light..gonzo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas
    I can second that. I think that's the various doseages of Bacopa at work. I have noticed that low doses of Bacopa can have a stim effect and higher doses seem to knock me out.
    Correct on Bacopa and most adaptagens in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    Maybe hje's dosing with REM? I find too much REM, or too much REM/PowerFULL late at night does the same thing to me. I just adjusted the dosage down as I think you advised in another thread. Problem solved, sleep is back.
    tsb4me isn't using REM, we train together sometimes at the same gym and it ain't REM

    he sez that with the old powerful it was lights out when it came to sleep but with this new powerful its not happening in the sleep dept at all, he's wired bigtime!
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    The Muira Puama came in today. It should be up shortly, along with a few other items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    The Muira Puama came in today. It should be up shortly, along with a few other items.
    Excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs
    Correct on Bacopa and most adaptagens in general.

    So are you saying that I should up the dose at bedtime ?

    Cause apart from the sleep issues everything else is on par with the old powerfull ie strength,pump,libido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSB4me
    So are you saying that I should up the dose at bedtime ?

    Cause apart from the sleep issues everything else is on par with the old powerfull ie strength,pump,libido.
    there is not bacopa in powerfull. If you get excelerated by PowerFULL, Please do not up the dose. You are the first to report a caffiene like effect...Anything is possible so not denying the your report.
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    Sorry for any confusion...I was referring to the REM posts when I posted about bacopa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs
    there is not bacopa in powerfull. If you get excelerated by PowerFULL, Please do not up the dose. You are the first to report a caffiene like effect...Anything is possible so not denying the your report.
    Are you ever going to help us figure out what is in PowerFULL?

    Or are you just telling us to take a hike... ?
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    What is a good starting dosage? Five grams in divided doses on an empty stomach?
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    IIRC, I think 4 grams divided is recommended starting point. Price is good enough to increase, but keep in mind the points about adaptogens and increased dosage not yielding better effects, rather the inverse.

    That said, your starting point looks reasonable. Mind posting some feedback when you get a chance?
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    Will do. Thanks for the reply.
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