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    Quote Originally Posted by custom View Post
    To be perfectly honest, though, I do not see how this is superior to Propionyl-L-Carnitine.

    PLCAR costs less and requires less of a dose to be active.

    With GPLC, the Glycine is going to cleave off of the PLCAR and too much Glycine all at once can make people overly drowsy, hence why you may see some companies over-compensating with stimulants when using GLPC in a blended pre-workout product.

    I mean, to each his own, but I'm just not seeing why people want to pay almost double for essentially PLCAR + Glycine.

    If I'm missing something, someone please enlighten me. Everyone knows I've been wrong before.
    This is some VERY good food for thought. I have just been reading through all the published studies listed directly on the GPLC official website, and even though Sigma has been the leading research firm regarding Carnitine, I have never seen such a dramatic 'push' and science-backed campaign paired with hugely positive user feedback before - as we are seeing with GPLC. I am definitely one of the many who would be ecstatic to implement a supplement as effective at half the price, but for now I have yet to see any true definitive lines and comparative analysis drawn between these two versions.

    From my short lived (about 2 months) experience with GPLC, it has been absolutely fantastic - seriously eye opening. It has been such an effective supplement, as my supply dwindles, I am actually hoarding away the remaining dosages for certain muscle groups, because it is truly THAT good. It is so rare that I can feel a supplement work, I have never really taken price into consideration as a drawback.

    I would LOVE to know how the other iterations and bonds of Carnitine perform and exhibit their specific set of actions vs. GPLC; such as the prop version you mentioned above, as well as the L-Car-L-Tar and even the Acetyl type. Does each newer and more stable version simply climb up the rankings in efficacy with a linear pattern, concerning androgen receptor modulation, endurance and fat burning support, blood flow augmentation, vascularity and muscle load capacity, etc? I would find this to be nearly impossible, and would tend to think each version has its own strengths - where as GPLC has the demonstrated affinity to exert its actions within muscle tissue (which is why it might be a superior choice in the realm of bodybuilding specific intent and usage)

    Along with the above information and comparative analysis between two or all of the Carnitine varieties... I would also like to try a gram for gram identical dosing protocol pre-workout to come to a better conclusion.

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    [QUOTE=custom;2415257]To be perfectly honest, though, I do not see how this is superior to Propionyl-L-Carnitine.

    PLCAR costs less and requires less of a dose to be active.
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    WOULD LOVE TO SEE LCLT/PLCAR IN BULK.ANY CHANCE?
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    I've seen it for $120 for 300 grams and that's coming from Australia so who knows the shipping $40 for 100grams IS fair, this stuff is expensive and I have no problem supporting NP, just be realistic about this one guys it's PRICEY.
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    Any updates on this?
    I would love to try this out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    I've seen it for $120 for 300 grams and that's coming from Australia so who knows the shipping $40 for 100grams IS fair, this stuff is expensive and I have no problem supporting NP, just be realistic about this one guys it's PRICEY.
    Were you looking at this on Bulk Nutrition's Australia site? I saw that too... wonder why their main domestic site doesn't carry it yet?

    Also... sadly... anything with true science behind it (GPLC, na-r-ALA, Pycnogenol etc) will always be pricey, because they actually work

    The only exclusions to this rule, would be Creatine and BCAAs as they have been widely available for decades and the raws are easier to manufacture.
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    stuff isnt cheap!!


    My stash of Superior Nutraceuticals GPLC is going for 90 dollars a 250g tub on the web.

    And I have another pile of RPN LCLT that is OOS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Were you looking at this on Bulk Nutrition's Australia site? I saw that too... wonder why their main domestic site doesn't carry it yet?

    Also... sadly... anything with true science behind it (GPLC, na-r-ALA, Pycnogenol etc) will always be pricey, because they actually work

    The only exclusions to this rule, would be Creatine and BCAAs as they have been widely available for decades and the raws are easier to manufacture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    My stash of Superior Nutraceuticals GPLC is going for 90 dollars a 250g tub on the web.

    And I have another pile of RPN LCLT that is OOS.


    I have not heard anyone talk about Superior for a long time... I used to buy from them a long time ago when they were one of the only ones with na-r-ala, along with Life Extension I believe. I was going to swing over by their website and see what they have going on these days, they don't carry GPLC anymore? Ha, actually I don't even know if they're in business... they were a good company from all my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    My stash of Superior Nutraceuticals GPLC is going for 90 dollars a 250g tub on the web.

    And I have another pile of RPN LCLT that is OOS.


    PP's price is still cheaper at 29 cents per gram vs 36 cents per gram at Superior Nutraceuticals.
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    Update?
    I would love to buy some Ultima and GPLC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I have not heard anyone talk about Superior for a long time... I used to buy from them a long time ago when they were one of the only ones with na-r-ala, along with Life Extension I believe. I was going to swing over by their website and see what they have going on these days, they don't carry GPLC anymore? Ha, actually I don't even know if they're in business... they were a good company from all my experience.
    I think they are still up and running.

    I wont mention the name, but an online retailer carries alot of SN powders.

    Not sure where they got the raws from, but the stuff is legit. I have to pound the hell out of water or I get the sinus side effects from the massive Nitric Oxide release.
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    I would even bet that we could find PLCAR for cheaper than what RPN offered if we looked hard enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    I would even bet that we could find PLCAR for cheaper than what RPN offered if we looked hard enough.
    rpn has quality product.
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    any updates?
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    Acetyl L-Carnitine Arginate Dihydrochloride is another one that would be cool to see
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiegoodfellar View Post
    any updates?
    looking into this as we speak. Once I know, I will post it up here
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    tried it for the first time this week.

    Legs day was never so good.

    Get it in and i'll buy it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmate View Post
    tried it for the first time this week.

    Legs day was never so good.

    Get it in and i'll buy it!!
    EXACTLY... something as usually mundane (regarding the absence of the usual pump and instant gratification of an upper body workout) as legs can become an amazing experience with GPLC. I have NEVER had a poor workout while using GPLC! I cannot say that for any other form of carnitine by a long shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    EXACTLY... something as usually mundane (regarding the absence of the usual pump and instant gratification of an upper body workout) as legs can become an amazing experience with GPLC. I have NEVER had a poor workout while using GPLC! I cannot say that for any other form of carnitine by a long shot.
    The different advanced carnitine forms, whether they are chemically bonded to amino acids or Krebs Cycle intemediates, possess specific differentiating pharmacological effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    The different advanced carnitine forms, whether they are chemically bonded to amino acids or Krebs Cycle intemediates, possess specific differentiating pharmacological effects.
    Agreed - such as LCLT and recovery/receptor proliferation. GPLC's affinity to exert its effects within muscle tissue makes it all the more impressive and worthy of inclusion in any serious and dedicated athlete's supplement stratagem.
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    I think I like ARGINOCARN better. Any chance of getting this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smutty View Post
    I think I like ARGINOCARN better. Any chance of getting this?
    From PP, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smutty View Post
    I think I like ARGINOCARN better. Any chance of getting this?
    For what purpose? Energy support and enhanced fat oxidation during calorie restriction? Only reason I ask, is because Arginocarn or any other bonded iteration of Carnitine can't be compared one to another, as they all offer specific purpose and activity in vivo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    For what purpose? Energy support and enhanced fat oxidation during calorie restriction? Only reason I ask, is because Arginocarn or any other bonded iteration of Carnitine can't be compared one to another, as they all offer specific purpose and activity in vivo.
    ArginoCarn would be more for supporting the regrowth of neurites and the protection of the structural integrity of neural membranes, as well as the inhibition of neurotoxic beta-amyloid-related degenerative processes, in addition to the classic cardiovascular-mitochondrial benefits of carnitine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    ArginoCarn would be more for supporting the regrowth of neurites and the protection of the structural integrity of neural membranes, as well as the inhibition of neurotoxic beta-amyloid-related degenerative processes, in addition to the classic cardiovascular-mitochondrial benefits of carnitine.
    Thank you very much for the explanation
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    I'm down for some bulk PLCAR-which would be great
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    I definitely have more energy and feel more alert when using ARGINOCARN. GPLC leaves me feeling foggy headed. I am unable to concentrate on things.
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    Just a quick update:

    We are currently in discussions with one supplier in particular that does look quite promising. I will let you know as soon as I hear something
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    Thank you, for the update.
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    no worries.......once I know more I will let you all know
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    The different advanced carnitine forms, whether they are chemically bonded to amino acids or Krebs Cycle intemediates, possess specific differentiating pharmacological effects.
    Nicely put. I've been using different carnitines in stacks as well as on their own and I'm convinced these should all be carried at NP. Great natural products with real

    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Just a quick update:

    We are currently in discussions with one supplier in particular that does look quite promising. I will let you know as soon as I hear something
    Hopefully you guys can fit LCLT, plcar and carnitine taurinate in your budget too. If i remember correctly RPN's PLCAR and LCLT moved pretty quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    no worries.......once I know more I will let you all know
    Are you guys also looking into maybe lclt/plcar? I know they would seel well, as they never really stayed in stock too long
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    Quote Originally Posted by smutty View Post
    I definitely have more energy and feel more alert when using ARGINOCARN. GPLC leaves me feeling foggy headed. I am unable to concentrate on things.
    This is why we need PLCAR. Glycine makes people tired.
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    I'd buy it.

    I'd also buy a robot that makes me sandwiches...

    If you are thinking of expanding your market that is.

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    Finding the right supplier is not as easy as one would hope. However, it is all still in process
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    You could start with NOWS GPLC until you get the bulk supplier figured out?

    https://www.nowfoods.com/Products/078381.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    im still trying to move a couple of these stacks. very firm on price.

    for what your getting this is an absolute steal.

    the 250g's of SN GPLC alone is worth 75 shipped. I think its 90 from the one online retailer that has it, unless you buy a 3 pack.

    Remember kids. When NP comes through on the GPLC dont expect it to be dirt cheap, just isnt going to happen.
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