Congrats--I can't believe you have this available already. What are the recommendations on dose? Just jump to the 3g in the Italian Study? Or start lower?
I'm very interested in this one. Looking forward to some user feedback on this.
I'd like to know about this too. Some research indicated that this increases prolactin? There's a thread around if you search for it.
G.E.T., AX, and Muscle Warfare have just come out with different products with DAA. None of them come even close to the 3g dosage. Muscle Warfare has NMDA (N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid) which is supposed to be much stronger. The whole point of supplementing DAA is the conversion TO NMDA.
Anyway, I have the Muscle Warfare Product NMDA (which has DAA, NMDA and a couple of serms and cofactors) and a bulk DAA product in capsule called DAA Pure on the way. So in a week or two I'll be trying whichever comes first and comparing the two.
Muscle Warfare is doing in house testing on MMA fighters in their gym and are seeing nearly instant increases in Test, Gh, and Dhea levels. Their documentation impresses me. I don't expect Clinical Controlled Trials--that would make a our supplements $150 a bottle. But doing simple, in house testing is something most companies are not doing. Claiming a test boost is one thing, actually demonstrating it is another.
I'll be coming off Natadrol to try DAA. I doubt this stuff could touch how incredibly well, even unbelievably well Natadrol works for me.
I wonder if this means more D amino acid supplements are in our future?
what "co factors" to regulate the prolactin since this is plain DAA
edit: Did a quick search and came up with this bit of info from 2 seperate posts -
"vitex and definitely vitamin b6 p5p"
"Vitex is used to normalize excessive Prolactin levels. Women use it because it helps deal with a lot of female issues, among which can include excessive Prolactin levels and infertility. There is no reason why men cannot use it if they are simply looking to decrease Prolactin levels."
Can this stuff take the place of HCG!?!?
nothing replaces the real deal.
I dont think this should be taken as a stand alone, L-dopa(Powerfull) for prolactin/Test/HGH and anti estrogen( PP Sustain or IBE 6 bromo) would be great. The studies show this stuff raises Test rapidly and to high levels, so precautions should be taken.
It also raises IGF-1 and HGH, so adding HGHup should make for one hell of a stack.
Also, this converts through a methyl donor process into NDMA, so you might want to look into adding something that increases this conversion. Muscle Warfare has really addressesd a lot of these issues but bulk would allow you to play with a lot of different stacks.
EST is releasing a D-aspartic acid product. its the new Propadrol , it has the same AI component the 3-ohat like methyl mass and it has 3 grams of a prop blend of D-aspartic and NMDA, plus some 7,8 benzo or 7methoxy cant remember which one
TMG trimethylglycine yeilds 3 ( hence tri ) donors. Its an excelent methyl donor. 100 grams powder is less than 7 bucks at beyond a century. It helps lower homocystine as a added bonus. Animal studies show increase meat production with less fat in farm animals. not bad for the price. taste is tolerable as well
The above mentioned methyl donors all work well but you can also look at DMAE or SAMe.
DAA has also been reported to improve mood, so stacking it with SAMe would be an interesting combo.
One thing about the studies, they were ran at 3 grams, so it is very possible that a lower dose could produce similar increases as the 3 gram dose. I believe Muscle Warfare said they found it to be just as potent at lower doses.
Patrick Arnold said on another board that he knows guys running up to 8 grams a day with no sides.
Dont know if I would go that far considering your body has a limit on how much it can convert DAA into NMDA and of course you would be increasing any possible sides.
I would play with dosing, start maybe at 1 gram and increase as needed. In fact, now that it is in bulk, I may just have to give it a try.
My Stack: DAA, Powerfull, PP Sustain/PP Form, SAMe,TMG. Maybe through in HGHup for its HGH increasing effects and Olive Oil, its cheap and its supplies the fats needed to build test.
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Okay, I was just making sure. I mean, $70 is quite steep for something of this nature without proven test-runs.