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Old 04-14-2005, 04:51 PM   #1
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Ephedra will be back ???
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7504443/




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Old 04-14-2005, 05:26 PM   #2
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Hell Yeah!! Not such a big deal just because Ephedra is still readilly available, but its a good blow against the government during these hard times of supplements.
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:32 PM   #3
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i felt a funny rush while reading that article haha.. like a 'how you like it now FDA??' hahaha...
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:39 PM   #4
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Hell Yeah!! Not such a big deal just because Ephedra is still readilly available, but its a good blow against the government during these hard times of supplements.
Well the Ephedra thats available now is the Ephedra HCL, which is not as potent as the Dietary supplements that contain a source of ephedrine alkaloids, such as ephedra, Ma huang, Sida cordifolia, and pinellia
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:42 PM   #5
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wow....im not a criminal anymore!
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 06:44 PM   #6
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Well the Ephedra thats available now is the Ephedra HCL, which is not as potent as the Dietary supplements that contain a source of ephedrine alkaloids, such as ephedra, Ma huang, Sida cordifolia, and pinellia
Its Ephedrine HCL. Also I believe its much more potent than just the extracts. You may be a bit confused on this.
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:43 PM   #7
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Its Ephedrine HCL. Also I believe its much more potent than just the extracts. You may be a bit confused on this.
Honestly, I see all these people talking about Ephedrine HCL being more potent than Ma Huang standardized for the same mg of Ephedrine, but I’m not convinced.

People who've tried both seem to say that the Herbal version was stronger. I know, for me, you can feel the herbal version much more – I can’t really say for fat burning. I’m sure it’s also likely that there are compounds in the herbal extract that aide in fat loss aside from Ephedrine. This is why I’d like to see the herbal version back.
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:55 PM   #8
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Its Ephedrine HCL. Also I believe its much more potent than just the extracts.
I seem to get the same results from Ephedrine HCL as I did the Herbal standardized extract. I seem to like the ephedrine hcl much better for some reason. Maybe it's the price.
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:07 PM   #9
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Well maybe because of either the other active ingredients in the fatburner or the fact that there is a scarce find for PURE ephedrine hcl without expectorant which does have an effect on the ephedrines potency
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:13 PM   #10
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I was just saying it was my experience, i don't know why - and that's all.
 
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:11 PM   #11
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Epedra ban done! I assume there is no such hope for pro-hormones.
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 02:10 AM   #12
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not that i use ephedra, but it's good to know that these supp. companies are fighting back.
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:08 AM   #13
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the banner on the MSN ad says--Ephedra linked to 155 deaths--hmm I wonder what the banner's ad would have said about cigarettes?
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:23 PM   #14
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Epedra ban done! I assume there is no such hope for pro-hormones.
No, theres not. The FDA used its authority over dietary supplements to ban ephedra. Congress created legislation that added prohormones to the banned substance list (aka the same list as steroids and other illicit drugs).
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 01:58 PM   #15
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Epedra ban done! I assume there is no such hope for pro-hormones.

I wouldn't say it was done. The fda is "reviewing the decision"

Luckily for people in Utah. I wouldn't expect it to be back as a dietary supp any time soon.
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 02:42 PM   #16
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I live in Utah. I hate herbal E though. I like the HCL
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 03:59 PM   #17
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Check out the last paragraph in the article:
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Campbell’s ruling sends the matter back to the FDA “for further rulemaking consistent with the court’s opinion� and keeps the agency from enforcement action against the companies.
Does this mean retailers are free to sell ephedra-based supps again?
 
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:25 PM   #18
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even if they are..they would probably be hesitant

I mean they probably have **** sitting there..but to go into restocking shelves..bottling...marketing..etc. Probably wouldn't rush to get em back on the shelves right away.

I mean personally I like the HCL myself.

but we shall see
 
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Check out the last paragraph in the article:


Does this mean retailers are free to sell ephedra-based supps again?
I just got my email from D&E yesterday evening. They have already capped them up and are ready to ship as the orders come in.

http://www.dnepharm.com/cgi-bin/dnestore/B10028884.html
 
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:29 PM   #20
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It's funny how expensive everything gets..
 
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