[Aggie2012]

So my first natural bodybuilding contest is next year. April 6 to be exact. I have 8 weeks left of bulking before I do a 4 week transition to cutting for 12 weeks. I currently weigh 195lbs and plan to reach 200lbs by the end of my bulk. When it comes to contest weight, I'm going to shoot for 170lbs by the show. What are some good tips and advice for the rest of my bulk phase, transitioning phase, and cutting phase? Also what are some decent supps and training routines for the cut? Any particular Diets? Ill be posting updates as soon as I can. Thanks for anyone who helps me out.

[jdg76]

Your asking for a whole lot of info to answer at once. I've only competed once but am more than willing to help. Skim down thru some of the other threads here first and you can get a lot of info. Then if you are still confused I'll see what I can do. ;-)


jdg76
team APPNUT

[Aggie2012]

Will do man thanks.

[mazzaiii]

I've done a few and I haven't come in lean enough In either. I started my prep nov 1, I'm losing about 35lbs for mine. Also for a ahow in april. If you're doing a natty show I would just cut down now. You can try some things when you're leaner too like dry runs with water intake and sodium. See what you like better.

[EBroser]

You may want to consider using my PRRS training protocol for your contest. Nothing retains muscle better on a diet.

h t t p://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/217588-original-power-rep.html

[mazzaiii]

You may want to consider using my PRRS training protocol for your contest. Nothing retains muscle better on a diet.

h t t p://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/217588-original-power-rep.html

ill check that out too. thanks man

[EBroser]

ill check that out too. thanks man

This is what I have all my clients use before shows (and most of the year with some modifications).

[Luke_PNI]

I have had my best gains using the power rep-range shock, highly recommend it !

[hossjob]

A couple of things:

1) Try P/RR/S - It's legit.
2) 12 weeks is not enough, prep for 16 and don't worry about the scale too much. Do not say to yourself "I want to be 170 on show day" It's a trap. YOu need to get more peeled than you think.
3) Find someone to help do your prep. Hire a coach or at least find somone that will be an extra set of eyes. It's an overwhelming process. I see so many people try to do it on their own and end up having a bad experience. If you get a good coach it will be easier.
4) Diet is CRUCIAL. No amount of training is going to make up for a diet that is not spot on.

& Ask TONS of questions on forums like this. People are here to help!

[mazzaiii]

A couple of things:

1) Try P/RR/S - It's legit.
2) 12 weeks is not enough, prep for 16 and don't worry about the scale too much. Do not say to yourself "I want to be 170 on show day" It's a trap. YOu need to get more peeled than you think.
3) Find someone to help do your prep. Hire a coach or at least find somone that will be an extra set of eyes. It's an overwhelming process. I see so many people try to do it on their own and end up having a bad experience. If you get a good coach it will be easier.
4) Diet is CRUCIAL. No amount of training is going to make up for a diet that is not spot on.

& Ask TONS of questions on forums like this. People are here to help!

Couldn't agree more with you man.

[EBroser]

Luke and Hoss are amazing examples of what PRRS can do. In fact, Hoss was the athlete I used in my PRRS DVD.

w w w.prrsdvd.com

[Aggie2012]

Thanks hossjob! I've started cutting last Sunday. I'm seeing progress already. But as the best say preparing for a contest is a marathon not a sprint. I don't have the money to afford a coach but I have a coworker I've been lifting with and he keeps me up. He make sures I don't eat crap and motivates me to get going hard in the gym. Next Sunday I'll post some pics! My macros currently are pretty even 33/33/33.

[Aggie2012]

Not to mention I'm 17weeks 4 days out. Weighing roughly 184.5 lbs.
Current supplements:
Pre-workout: Im using up all my free samples I have.
Post-workout: carnivor w/ aminos, and glutamine.

I take zma before bed. Also 2 hgh up.
I take 3 hgh up and one of the free sample fat burner in the morning.

Next week I start my new BSN stack:
NO Xplode.
Cell mass.
AminoX.
HyperShred.
Syntha-6 Isolate.
Nitrix.
Thermonex.
Epozine-o2.

Other:
Opti-Men.
Zma.
Vit-C.
Calcium & Magnesium.
Glucosamine & Chondroitin.
Hgh Up.

[grandroid828]

Not to mention I'm 17weeks 4 days out. Weighing roughly 184.5 lbs.
Current supplements:
Pre-workout: Im using up all my free samples I have.
Post-workout: carnivor w/ aminos, and glutamine.

I take zma before bed. Also 2 hgh up.
I take 3 hgh up and one of the free sample fat burner in the morning.

Next week I start my new BSN stack:
NO Xplode.
Cell mass.
AminoX.
HyperShred.
Syntha-6 Isolate.
Nitrix.
Thermonex.
Epozine-o2.

Other:
Opti-Men.
Zma.
Vit-C.
Calcium & Magnesium.
Glucosamine & Chondroitin.
Hgh Up.

Im not at all a contest bodybuilder bro, but cellmass is pretty sugary, and syntha 6 is quite high calorie for a daily post wo protein. Just a thought brother. Killer products! Just, not something i personally would put on my list for precontest. Amino X watermelon is literally the most delicious supplement in the world. And i hate watermelon lol

[Aggie2012]

If you don't mind me asking, what Post-Workout set up would you use? And would the sugar really matter after an intense workout?

[grandroid828]

Not to mention I'm 17weeks 4 days out. Weighing roughly 184.5 lbs.
Current supplements:
Pre-workout: Im using up all my free samples I have.
Post-workout: carnivor w/ aminos, and glutamine.

I take zma before bed. Also 2 hgh up.
I take 3 hgh up and one of the free sample fat burner in the morning.

Next week I start my new BSN stack:
NO Xplode.
Cell mass.
AminoX.
HyperShred.
Syntha-6 Isolate.
Nitrix.
Thermonex.
Epozine-o2.

Other:
Opti-Men.
Zma.
Vit-C.
Calcium & Magnesium.
Glucosamine & Chondroitin.
Hgh Up.

Oh and thermonex, hypershred, and no xplode stacked together is gonna be bad. Full dose of hyper shred and noxplode alone is 900 mg caffeine :/ muchless the thermonex. And people normally have heart problems around 1200, tho i find i can take 1200 with minimal sides.

[grandroid828]

If you don't mind me asking, what Post-Workout set up would you use? And would the sugar really matter after an intense workout?

Well it is good after an intense workout yes, but it still matters. The "insulin spike" im assuming youre after can be triggered with just a few grams of plain sugar, and i havent checked cellmass 2.0 but im assuming its probably upwards of 20, which is, considerably more than necessary. But it wont be detrimental. And post workout while in precontest mode, either a beef protein like dymatize primal, cuz that lets u get beef aminos with zero fat, or just like whey gold standard by ON. Super low calorie and fat but still pure whey.

[Aggie2012]

I'm currently using Carnivor by musclemeds, and that's full of amino's itself. I hate to ask again, but for my goal and contest what would you recommend as a full pre-contest stack?

[Aggie2012]

I took these October 1st. I started my cut last Sunday. Faces are terrible! Haha but here you go.
I'll post current progress pics next sunday!

[grandroid828]

I took these October 1st. I started my cut last Sunday. Faces are terrible! Haha but here you go.<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 334"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 335"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 336"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 337"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 338"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 339"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 340"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 341"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 342"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachment****71 343"/>
I'll post current progress pics next sunday!

Looks great brother. Youre definitely going in with much more developed legs and calves than most. And thatll give u a huge advantage.

And as far as precontest natty, just make sure you taper carbs correctly, loads of protein and bcaa to prevent loss, and maybe a fat burner to help with water and calorie burning. Doesnt have to be too complicated bro. Diet should be the super complicated part

[Aggie2012]

I agree. I'm kinda worrying too much about supplements. I should just do what you said. I plan to only buy protein, bcaa's, fat burner, and a pre. I'm still confused on which ones to buy. I've been reading forums all day and talking to people at my gym and no luck.

[grandroid828]

I agree. I'm kinda worrying too much about supplements. I should just do what you said. I plan to only buy protein, bcaa's, fat burner, and a pre. I'm still confused on which ones to buy. I've been reading forums all day and talking to people at my gym and no luck.

Fat burner- original oxyelite WORKS. But. Its very stim heavy. Pes alphamine, pes erase pro, lecheek nutrition alpha t2 (throid stimulator), and usplabs compound 20 would be a KILLER leaning and hardening stack. I mean killer. Any one of those products on their own are good. Muchless stacked

[Aggie2012]

I'll have to look them up, when I get off work tonight. I'm excited. I had cardio/ calves/ abs today, it was awesome. I got my conditioning back so I actually enjoyed the stairmaster. I could've done better I think for abs, but I don't want to overtrain them to the point I just have a belly of muscle.

[grandroid828]

I'll have to look them up, when I get off work tonight. I'm excited. I had cardio/ calves/ abs today, it was awesome. I got my conditioning back so I actually enjoyed the stairmaster. I could've done better I think for abs, but I don't want to overtrain them to the point I just have a belly of muscle.

Thas definitely possible. But highly unlikely if youre natural. Which i assume you are since youre looking at fat burners instead of steroids that are cutters lol. That ronnie coleman type belly youre referring to is typically indicitave of certain types of steroids, and/or genes. Youd be quite hard pressed to acheive that natty. But thats awesome bro

[Aggie2012]

Haha thanks man!