The Super Duper X Factor testing stacking thing: Part 2

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  1. Awesome, I might have to put in an app, still am yet to try x-factor. I am thinking eith the AN or DS stack.. I could probably add my own DCP too.

    Also jj is the AX stack going to be female friendly?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Indeed! 43 members viewing WOW!
    Timing on this is perfect as well, for those that want to be in GREAT shape for Spring AND the Arnold!!
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  3. I'm already planning on logging Drive/RPM and X-factor.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    Awesome, I might have to put in an app, still am yet to try x-factor. I am thinking eith the AN or DS stack.. I could probably add my own DCP too.

    Also jj is the AX stack going to be female friendly?
    I know there will be more than 1 product out for AX, it will just depend when it will be released. I am also not sure if it will be female friendly, but I am sure Mace will come in to give us some more details! You can just edit your post on what you'd like to test when the time comes

  5. - Age: 22
    - Sex: Male
    - Height: 5’7”
    - Weight: 174 at 10% bodyfat
    - Body type: Mesomorph
    - Training Experience: I’ve been training or over 6 years, since freshman year in high school
    - Current Training Schedule / Protocol:
    Monday - Chest
    Bench Press 4x5, Dumbbell Incline 3x10, Dumbbell flys 2x20, Cable Crossovers 2x20

    Tuesdays - Legs
    Squat 4x5, Leg Press 3x10, Leg Extensions 2x20, Lunges 2x20

    Wednesdays - Arms
    Barbell Curl 4sets at 8,5,5,3 reps, Decline Skullcrushers 3x12, Preachercurl w/ hammer grip 3x12, Closegrip Benchpress 3x10, Incline Curl 3x20, Tricep Pushdown 4x8

    Thursdays - Back
    Deadlift 5 sets at 12,8,5,5,2, V-Bar Pulldowns 3x8, Barbell Rows 3x12, Seated cable rows 4x8

    Friday - Shoulders
    Dumbbell Military Press 4x5, Lateral Raises 3x8, Dumbbell Front Raises 3x12, Bentover Lateral Raises 4x12, Shrugs 3x20

    Saturday/Sunday - Rest

    - Cardio Schedule/Protocol 1 Mile run every Saturday morning and all the crazy stuff they have us do during rugby practice
    - Current Sport Played Muaythai, Rugby
    - Current Supplements: Animalpak, Animalpump, Optimum Nutrition’s Fish Oil and Amino 2222 tabs, Cytosport’s Cytogainer, Universal Torrent


    Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs NONE
    Are you currently being treated for any known medical conditions? NO
    Current Diet & Macros: 10am 2cups of oatmeal, 4 eggs, and a Weight Gainer Shake, Postworkout, Universal Torrent for Protein and Chicken breast with a cup of rice. 8pm Chickenbreast and a cup of rice. Then the weight gainer befor bed.
    Current Daily Water Intake 1 gallon a day
    Why should you be selected as a tester? Well I never get picked for these things and I’m positive I’ll be able to provide your company with quality feedback from an experienced lifter.
    Last edited by Behemoth1; 01-21-2008 at 02:52 PM. Reason: update my app
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Timing on this is perfect as well, for those that want to be in GREAT shape for Spring AND the Arnold!!
    You read my mind!

  7. DCP/Xfactor for me! Who ever gets the Xfactor/RPM/Drive stack is in for a special treat as well!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    I know there will be more than 1 product out for AX, it will just depend when it will be released. I am also not sure if it will be female friendly, but I am sure Mace will come in to give us some more details! You can just edit your post on what you'd like to test when the time comes
    okay !

  9. I would love to give this a try a! I have like most others struggled to find the balance between bulking and staying/getting lean. This past year I have finally found what seems to be working for my body at a slow and steady pace. This sounds like something that I could try to put me over the top and see my gains enhanced.

    About me:

    Age:30
    Height: 5'8
    Weight: 183lbs
    BF: approx 13%

    Training:
    Mon: Legs
    Tues: Chest,Tri's
    Wed: Off or cardio only
    Thurs: Shoulders,traps
    Fri: Back, Bi's
    Sat: - Off or cardio only
    Sun: - Off or cardio only

    Other than training I also play loads of rec. league sports. Winters I play indoor flag football. Summers I play fast pitch softball in 3 or more leagues. As you can see I am pretty much active all the time.

    Diet: Is pretty clean no fast foods ever. take in about 2800k cals currently trying to get leaner... eat fresh turkey, chicken and mostly lean meats with veggi's, brown rice, whole wheat bread and whole wheat pasta.. when I do eat carbs.

    Daily Suppliments:
    Multi-Vitamins
    Bcaa's
    Fish oil
    Flaxseed oil
    Protein - Shakes and bars about 270g a day
    Hydroxycut/Lipo-6
    BSN No-xplode
    BSN Cell Mass

  10. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Timing on this is perfect as well, for those that want to be in GREAT shape for Spring AND the Arnold!!
    For sure. The quest for 210 by the arnold would certainly be aided by a little XF!

    BTW JJohn. If I have an extra bottle of XF (I have one laying around), could I do 60 days at 1.25 if selected?
    NSCA-CSCS and CPT - Pursuing DPT Degree

  11. Quote Originally Posted by haiz69 View Post

    BTW JJohn. If I have an extra bottle of XF (I have one laying around), could I do 60 days at 1.25 if selected?
    Yes no problem!
  12. Ab's application


    Vital stats: 22/Female/5"5'
    Weight: ~128lbs

    Goals: Been adding a little bit of mass for the past few months, eating a lot and keeping training/cardio at decent levels. Now since it is summer, time to eat a little less and workout a little bit more ==> recomp/fat loss - I love lifting and cardio , but something to make my sessions go breezier, whilst helping me augment my body would be great too.


    Training
    5 days per week
    Chest/Shoulders
    Legs
    Back
    Arms
    Legs

    Cardio:
    8 times per week - includes high intensity, moderate intensity, intervals: Spinning, boxing, high and impact aerobic classes, GPP, step, skipping, cardio machines.

    Diet: 1600-2000 cals (carb cycling) + 2 cheats per week.. 6 meals:
    Oats/whey
    Pwo stuff
    Carb (eg rice)/meat/veg
    Fruit/nuts
    Meat/veg/fat
    Casein shake.

    Current supps: Been taking a bit of a hiatus wrt supps to give my body a break.

    Multi, Calcium, Gut Health, Green tea, Bcaas.

    Red acid on occassion.

    Logs:

    Haven't done any for a while because I haven't seen anything take my fancy.. in the past I have a stack on bb.com,

    My current workout journal is here:


    The Body is Evil and Must be Punished - Forums

    Logs on AM:


    ab + dcp = :D
    asianbabe's PAL transformation
    be my PAL!
    asianbabe gets down on red acid v2

    Preferred stacks:
    (I'll add in my own DCP because I think DCP + Xfactor will be siick!)


    MN + AN - coz of all the hype !!
    or MN + AX (Depending on what AX has)
    MN + DS also looks interesting but looking for feedback by people who have tried this, since I haven't used either, not sure if it would be too much on the joints?

    Thanks!


    -Liv

  13. Wow this is like Anabolic Minds role call. LOL
    Muscle Pharm Rep

  14. I would jump all up in this.... except logging is not my forte. I am a busy man these days.......

    Best of luck to all applicants.

    P.S.~ You WANT that AN/MN stack..... trust me....

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    I would jump all up in this.... except logging is not my forte. I am a busy man these days.......

    Best of luck to all applicants.

    P.S.~ You WANT that AN/MN stack..... trust me....
    Pfffffftt Busy man :P

  16. Maybe 3rd time is the charm to log XF??

    I train MMA, but still embrace a hybrid BB/PL training style. I run between 15-25 miles a week and have been training seriously for 4 years now.

    Training
    Mon-Chest, Back, Biceps/MMA
    Tues-Legs, Abs/BJJ
    Wed-Cardio/MMA
    Thur-Chest, Back, Abs/BJJ
    Fri-Cardio
    Sat-Triceps, Delts, Traps
    Sun-Off

    Diet
    200-215g Protein
    250-400g Carbs
    50-80g Fats

    I vary my macros depending on the intensity and volume of the day along with my relative energy levels.

    Staple Supps
    BCAAs
    SuperCarb
    BA
    Egg/Casein Protein


    I would prefer to run either the XF/RPM/Drive stack or the XF/DCP stack since I have previously used these supplements, except for the XF, and know what effect they have on me. I will also be using my own Napalm during the stack to lower my abdominal fat.

    Previous Logs
    My training/supps leading to 155
    Rodja's PAL Sponsored Transformation
    Rodja's Activate Extreme Test
    Rodja's JW/Pro-Anabol Log
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  17. Since I'm already running X you should hook me up with some other goodies to add in

    Supps-
    X Factor
    Xtend
    ON Whey
    Casein
    White Flood

    Diet-
    Morning- 2 cups oats in skim milk
    Mid morning- 1 turkey sandwich on whole wheat bread with lettuce
    Lunch- protein shake and another turkey sandwich
    Pre workout- White Flood+ 2 X
    During workout- Xtend
    After workout- 2 scoops protein+glutamine+2 X
    Dinner- salad+ either canned turkey, canned tuna, or chicken breasts
    Bed- casein

    Workout plan-
    Monday Chest
    Tuesday Bi's
    Wedsday Shoulders
    Thursday Tri's
    Friday Back
    Saturday Legs
    Sunday off

  18. Wowzers nice! I'm officially putting in an application too. I'll update this post with my full app. I might have to withdraw though if I win some X Factor from your picture contest JJohn I think, because I might start it before

    Alright here`s my application:

    Age: 19
    Height:
    6`0
    Weight:
    155 at 6%ish bf
    Current Phase:Lean Bulk

    Background: I started weight training for fun starting at 14, and did competitive rugby and soccer during high school. In my freshman year at university things went downhill because I was forced to go on a mealplan with terrible options that caused a lot of weight loss. After finishing my year and getting off the meal plan I`ve been lean bulking. It took me over 2 months to figure my personal nutritional requirements along with alot of online reading and questions, and I still am constantly tweaking and experimenting. After this phase I started lean bulking, up from 3% to my current 6.5%. I`ve had the chance along the way to log a few products, and started a few more bulk products at the end of 2007 including Yellow Gold, Beta Alanine, Green Tea and Powerful.

    I of course agree to all the conditions JJohn ,and I have progress pics from the last 8 months and a food log of my last year straight (and it is interesting how it has changed), as well as body scans done atleast once a month (i.e. I can get one pre-log, midway and post).

    Diet
    3000 cal daily (Maintenance + 500).
    40% Carbs (300g ) 30% Protein (225g) 30% Fats (100g)

    Pre-WO Meal 1: 7h00 100g Steelcut Oats, Scoop Whey, 2 Tbsp Flax
    8h15-9h15: Workout with 2 scoops Lemonade Xtend
    Meal 29h20 Scoop WPI,Ground Oats,100g Frozen Banana
    PWO Meal 310h20 70g Complex Carbs (Usually sweetpotato + Biscotti) 100g Chicken Breast
    Meal 4 13h30 Beef Chili with Extra Frozen Veggies (Staple frozen in tupperwares), Tsp Fish Oil
    Meal 5 16h30 Grilled Wholewheat Salmon Wrap, Broccoli
    Meal 6 19h302 Egg 0.5cup Eggwhite Omelette + Lowfat Cheese,Tsp Fish Oil, Carrots
    21h20 1.6g bulk 1-Carboxy,2 of Nutraplanet`s ZMT,2.5g GABA
    Meal 7 If hungry, will have some fats from nuts of fish oil + clean protein like chicken breast

    I really find the porridge 1.5hours before working out gives me the energy to make it through the workout. If I have to workout within 1hour of my breakfast, I skip my post-WO shake and have a solid meal with almost no fats because I find my breakfast is still mid-digestion giving me the required energy.

    In general my diet follows the guidelines suggested by Dr. John Berardi, with carbs and fats being separated, and my carbs meals are earlier in the day. I almost always train in the morning, or by noon at the latest.

    I also understand the nutritional requirements to properly run an X Factor log having done considerable reading into this product, and am willing to follow the diet exactly as required. I`ve actually gotten to know my local butcher so I can get some pretty good deals on meat now! Switching my salmon wrap for a beef or chicken wrap is no problem at all. I have grown very used to my high omega-3 intake which I find helps with mood and energy, but I am quite willing to switch out my omega-3`s to see the potential of AA instead.

    Current Supplements
    Daily Multivitamin, Vitamin C (500mgx5), Green Tea Extract (2x400mg), Whey Protein Concentrate and Isolate, Tricreatine Malate (Bulk 2x2.5g), Beta-Alanine (2x2g), Yellow Gold (600mg 15mins pre high-carb meals)

    Training

    Weights (6 day cycle)
    Day 1- Lower Body
    Squats- 4 x 8 (2,0,2)
    Seated Leg Press- 3x12 (3,0,3) no lockout
    Leg Extensions- 4x10 supersetting with Leg Curls- 4x10
    Machine-Squat- 4x10 (3,0,3)
    Calf Raises and Calf Presses 3x10
    Barbell Lunges 3x10 supsersetted with Front Squats 3x10

    Day 2- Upper body Horizontal
    Widegrip Bench Press- 4x8
    Widegrip Barbell Row- 4x10
    Incline Bench Press 4x10 Supersetted with Low Row 4x10
    Preacher Curls - 4x10 Superseeted with Skullcrushers 4x10

    Day 3- Abs or rest
    Depending on how sore I feel and my school schedule, this is either an abs workout or a rest day.

    Day 4- Legs Similar to Day-1 replacing squats with abs
    Stiff-Leg Deadlifts 5x7
    Calf Raises and Seated Presses
    High Leg Presses 4x8 Supersetted with Cable Crunches
    Leg Curls 4x10 Supersetted with Leg Extensions 4x10
    Machine Squats 4x10 Supersetted with Leg Raises (lower abs)
    Swiss Ball Ab Work

    Day 5- Upper body vertical
    Shoulder Press 4x10 Supersetted Isolateral Pulldowns 4x10
    Dips 4 Sets to exhaustion
    Pullovers 4x10 Supersetted with Shrugs 4x10
    Back Fly 4x10 Supersetted with Pec Flyes 4x10
    Pullups 4 sets to Exhaustion

    Day 6- Rest

    Stack Choice:
    I am very interested in logging the X Factor + Drive + RPM stack. I followed cellar`s log carefully and was really interested in the results (I thought cellar would have increased his PR`s more though judging by all the green lights :P ). It took me a while to get my diet in check, then once I had that I got a few basic supplements in and now over the last few months I`ve really dialed in and tried a few different supplements. By the end of this month I will have been on these staples for 3 months with almost no change in my diet or training except minor tweaks, and I`m interested in trying something new. From my samples of RPM I found it was hit or miss; some doses I felt had no effects meanwhile I remember two times having the best workouts ever on RPM so I believe if I figure out the proper dosing I will be able to have some great workouts. I also like how RPM doesn`t have too much caffeine in it. I found when logging white flood for 50 days (200mg of caffeine approx.) I started having problems falling asleep over time. My experience from the Drive sample is non-conclusive, I didn`t feel anything but I think it`s because it is a cumulative effect like cellar noticed and 6 caps over 3 days didn`t really cut it. I am interested in seeing if this combo can produce the safe effects for me, another university student, as it did for cellar.

    My previous logs of mine on AM:
    YELLOW GOLD - Is it Magic? (Unsponsored Log)
    DIESEL: Trib Test Extreme and Coq Diesel Log (Sponsored)
    Steveo's Sponsored White Flood + Green Mag Log
    IntraXcell (Beta-Alanine) Sponsored Log
    Steveo's Axis Labs SMASH Log

    Now that I have my diet and nutrition dialed in, I feel ready to try something a bit different. I`m a sucker for mystery items, so the Anabolic Xtreme products are something I`m also very interested in, but I don`t know exactly if these mystery products are for me. Also having no affiliations with any company I give honest reviews (If it tastes bad, IT TASTES BAD! If I thought it tasted like dish detergent I`ll tell you (lol that`s from an old review of I think 1st gen Steeledge) ) and I know how important it is to be consistent. Hope that`s enough info for you , and best of luck to all loggers, there`s going to be a lot!
    Last edited by Steveoph; 01-12-2008 at 02:54 PM. Reason: Updated info!
  19. BOHICA's Application


    I am applying for either the X-Factor + Drive + RPM or the X-Factor + AX Unknown Product

    Background:
    I have been lifting weights for ten years now and in the past 4 really gotten my nutrition down. I have taken myself from 145lbs to 235 (currently sitting at a lean 210)while still keeping myself in shape for athletics. I am a strength and conditioning coach with a certification in nutrition that has been developing collegiate and pro athletes the past 3 years.

    Previous Logs
    I logged the original superdrol and the Beta of Activate from Designer Supplements, Mega Dosed Excell from Anabolic Innovations.

    Training Knowledge
    I have been trained by both Doggcrapp, and Bobo; and have implemented a lot of Bobo's nutritional information into my diet and DC's training into my routines. Not to mention things I have learned and discovered during my certifications, internships, and strength and conditioning positions.

    Supplements:
    Team Skip True Protein
    Whey Ion True Protein
    Douglas Lab's Fish Oil
    Douglas Lab's Ultra Preventive X Multi-Vitamin

    Training:
    Monday: Chest & Biceps
    DB Bench Press - Work up to 1x4-6 Reps
    Hammer Strength Incline - RP Set of 12-18 Reps
    Bench Press - 1x15-20 Reps
    Blast Strap Pushups - 2x12-15

    Barbell Curl - Work up to 1x4-6 Reps
    Curl Machine - RP Set of 10-15 Reps
    Bicep Body Drags - 1x15-20

    Weighted Cable Crunches: 3x10

    Tuesday: Legs
    Squats - Work up to 1x4-6 Reps
    Front Squats - RP Set of 10-15 Reps
    One Legged Squats - 1x15-20 Each Leg
    SLDL - 2x10-12
    Seated Leg Curl - 2x10
    Calf Raised - DC style 2x12-15

    Wednesday: Cardio & Sauna
    30 Minutes low intensity cardio
    20-30 Minutes in sauna

    Thursday: Shoulders & Triceps
    DB Overhead Press - 1x4-6 Reps
    Hammer Shoulder Press - RP Set of 12-18 Reps
    Laterals - 1x15-20

    DB Overhead Extension - 1x4-6
    Dips - RP Set of 12-16 Reps
    Overhead Rope Pulls - 1x15-20

    Friday: Back & Grip
    Deadlifts - 1x4-6
    Reverse Grip Lat Pulldowns - RP Set 10-16 Reps
    Wide Grip Seated Rows - RP Set 10-16 Reps
    Blast Strap Pullups Neutral Grip - 2x6-10

    Farmer's Walks - 2x Max Time/Distance

    Ab Circuit - 20seconds each station 3 stations - repeat 3x

    Sat & Sun: Off

    Diet:
    Wake Up:
    Cup Coffee
    1 Scoop Whey Shake
    1 Piece Fruit

    Post-Workout:
    2 Scoops Whey
    2 Cups FF Milk
    2 Cups Rice Crispies blended up (I'm poor )

    Breakfast:
    Multi-Grain Bagel
    4 tbsp. Natural PB
    1 Bananna
    2 Scoops Team Skip Protein

    Lunch:
    All I Can Eat Sushi (Company pays for it)

    Snack:
    Turkey Chilli no Beans w/Multi-Grain Goldfish
    Salad

    Dinner:
    Deer Steak (12oz)
    Salad with Feta Cheese & Olive Oil

    Bed Time Snack:
    Cottage Cheese
    Natural PB
    Team Skip Protein

    Goals:
    I want to be back up to 220 and lean by beginning of April. I want to get my max back up to:
    Bench: 405x2
    Squat: 500x2
    DL: 575x1

    I have previously reached those before, except DL which my PR is 550.

    I have had a difficult past 2 months and am really hit it hard again this past week and will continue now that I have everything worked out.

    I really want to post more on AM and need a reason to
    So let me help.
    Last edited by BOHICA; 12-31-2007 at 06:24 PM.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Wowzers nice! I'm officially putting in an application too. I'll update this post with my full app. I might have to withdraw though if I win some X Factor from your picture contest JJohn I think, because I might start it before
    Okay no prob!

  21. Well JJohn you know im in bro. Diet is on point. I have my first fight in may so id love to stack X-factor DCP as ive used em both seperately before and loved it. Before and After pics can most definately be posted ( ill make sure of this ). Diet will be low carbs high protein and healthy fats. Training is crazy atleast 5 days a week in the gym and 3 days a week mma!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Well JJohn you know im in bro. Diet is on point. I have my first fight in may so id love to stack X-factor DCP as ive used em both seperately before and loved it. Before and After pics can most definately be posted ( ill make sure of this ). Diet will be low carbs high protein and healthy fats. Training is crazy atleast 5 days a week in the gym and 3 days a week mma!
    Good stuff! Please include some details if you have time, macros etc.. It's always nice to know what background you come from

  23. DAMNN I want in on this!!!

    I'm a long time member at Bodybuilding.com...Dedicatedfo rlif...Holla!

  24. SUP GUYS.

    I guess ill put down an application to see how it goes. Im intrested in that AX product. I was the original tester to X-factor and Drive with some RPM. I looooooved it

    I hope AX has more than one product stacked with X-Factor cause that would be truely awesome.

    My stats are here.

    18 years old
    16-17% body fat?
    209 pounds (still gaining after X-Factor baby )
    My goals are to gain some lean mass while cutting out some fat. I had great success with my last x-factor stack and I look forward to this. Everyone knows im good for some detailed quality logging right?

    Edit:

    If picked, I will run X-Factor on a cut most likely. Ive bulked with X-Factor and I loved it. Id love to use a supplement to help keep gains on my cut. A stack consisting of AX (which Ive been DYING to try. John would know and X-Factor would be superb!) Im hoping to make some decent steady gains while on X-Factor on a cut. I think the combination of X-Factor with the new and upcoming AX products is just what I need.

  25. he he he

    for the record I'm 23 in case there might be legal issues

    B-day was November 24th.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by BOHICA View Post
    Lunch:
    All I Can Eat Sushi (Company pays for it)
    you lucky bastard!!!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Hank Vangut View Post
    you lucky bastard!!!
    lol it's about all they pay for, so I have to maximize it. I moved my lifting time to the morning to really benefit of cramming down that much sushi into my mouth.

  28. I'm in....I'm on Winter Break right now and having nothing to do but hit the weights. I'm trying to gain mass....I was going to do the xfactor, rpm, drive stack...

    Diet:
    Eating 160-200 g of protein a day (weigh 160). Med-High Carbs. I eat about 5-6 small meals a day, rougly 3000+ calories.

    Workout:
    Just started a 4 day Split (Upper Push, Lower heavy, Upper Pull, Lower moderate)

    current stats:
    bench: 290lbs
    squat: 380lbs

  29. Quote Originally Posted by BOHICA View Post
    lol it's about all they pay for, so I have to maximize it. I moved my lifting time to the morning to really benefit of cramming down that much sushi into my mouth.
    Haha! Sushi is great stuff! Just be carefull, and if you get selected, you'll have to slow down on some fatty fishes. Something to consider.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Haha! Sushi is great stuff! Just be carefull, and if you get selected, you'll have to slow down on some fatty fishes. Something to consider.
    I vary it up now. I can only eat so much tuna or salmon sushi. I get a lot of eel, yellowtail, or shrimp now. It also depends on where I choose to take people to lunch, a lot of people really like free sushi meals, so I end up there a lot.

    That is another reason I am wanting to run one of these stacks so I can cut down on the fish oil and see how my body goes.
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