wow thats funny i can just picture chuck practicing that in sparring sessions. it does look like there is intent to gouge. I still like chuck tho but he needs to fight rampage, shogun and vandi
So you are saying he intentionally pokes eyes? You sure are implying that by calling him dirty. And saying he intentionally does that is 100% baseless crap. Well its based on your irrational dislike for the guy. You must be a Tito fanboy. That explains it. Tito fanboys are as classless as Yankees and Lakers fans.
Once is an accident, twice is bad training, third and on is either intentional or criminally negligent technique, the results the same, the repeated use of a dangerous and forbidden street technique, dirty.
I'm a Pride Nuthugger, not a Tito Fanboy. Irrational is the namecalling you use, not suprising for someone into Walker worship, rationale is the reasons I've stated why Liddell is not the best until he fights the best.
Believe it or not, I've told other fighters what I thought of there conduct and pronouncements. I would/will say the same to Liddell if and when I see him in Vegas. I state it rationally without aggression, there choice on how they take it, it's a fan's right if not abusive and I'm a fighter too, this dog is uncowered by anyone.
You can have the last word, your need for childishly churlish noncontribution satisfied until the next unreasoned outburst spews forth to add nothing but noise from the ranks of been said a thousand times before and usually said better.
Against White he caved in his orbital socket, but that was from a punch directly on the eye. Open finger gloves make the eye susceptible to injury. Chuck is not the only one to ever have a fight change because of an eye-poke, either. Vitor/Randy II ended because of a cut on the eyelid, although it should have been an NC.
Thanks, now I'm going to have that picture in my head the rest of the day. That was one nasty cut!Originally Posted by Rodja
Originally Posted by CNorris
I don't know about White or Horn. I haven't seen any evidence on those and would say that Chuck just dominated them. I thought that he just caved in White's orbital socket as Rodja said. He definitely poked Randy and Tito. The video of Tito is clear evidence of it. You can't tell me that's not intentional. I noticed on one of his punches on Babalu that he appeared to have his thumb out, but he was going to TKO Babalu anyway, and I didn't see an actual poke.
Intentionally poking someone in the eye is about as low as it gets and puts Chuck in the same class as Keith Hackney. Gerard Gordeau blinded someone in one eye from poking it, and we don't need that again.
Its a F@$king Fight! Criminally Negligent LOL! WOW.
Why dont the refs warn him if its such a problem? I think you are just over blowing a few incidents. Randy Couture even said its part of the sport and it happens.
And Walker is a joke, as is your obsession with hating Liddell.
If you are a homer thats one thing. But I have seen people from the midwest that cheer for the Yankees and Lakers. That just shows low class bandwagon disease.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
lol, doesn't bother me. grew up a yankees fan in VA. as for liddell, he's a great fighter and accidents do happen. as cnorris pointed out, if it were such a concern, a bigger deal would have been made about it. so far, the only naysayers are anti-liddell fanatics.
As much as I like Rampage right now I don't think he could beat Chuck. I've been around both in person in Lemoore at the WEC fights. Very nice people in person when there away from the autograph seekers. Rampage sat with me and my friends and I kept thinking I know that guy from somewhere. DUHHHHOriginally Posted by ripped218
A little bit different subject but did anyone hear them mention Rampage and Pride at the last UFC PPV? I thought I heard them discussing this, but I was at a loud bar and couldn't fully hear. It would be odd considering how they've made an effort to refer to Pride as "fighting in Japan" and not name any non-UFC stars like Rampage.
Thats because he fought Lindlind in the WEC,who is an extremly boring fighter.Thats Rampages style he has the tendency of fighting at the pace and level of the opponents he is facing,If you have seen the fight with Liddell,it wasn't just a loss but a lesson of whoop assness(haha,made that up)He totally destroyed Chuck.I think we need to see a rematch,which ever way it were to go.That is the only loss he needs to redeem,and probably the worst loss by ass beating he has had.Originally Posted by mp5man1
The more I watch these things the more I appreciate good submission skills and the ability to escape submissions. Not everybody needs to become a knockout artist just to please the crowds. Seems like guys just quit trying to take chuck down since he has such great defense against it.
He fought Lindland in World Fighting Alliance. Styles make fights, I think Rampage would win again if he was in the right mental state.Originally Posted by ripped218
I just watched Liddel vs Ortiz again, and that eye poke was pretty blatant. The worst part about it is that as Tito stepped back and began rubbing his eye (which Liddel had to know was not a reaction to a strike, b/c Chuck's hand was wide open), Chuck unleashed the barrage to finish the fight.
If it was an accidental eye poke, fine. Tito and Randy were both willing to call it an accident, despite occurring (at least) twice in a short time span. Chuck's bad: be a man and let the guy recover from the illegal blow. Chuck's response is basically the same as finishing a guy after a
Chuck is a great fighter, but this definitely compromises his champion qualities. Aside from a great sequence at the close of Rd 1, the fight was very close until this point. Tito caught Chuck a few times, and he was fighting Chuck's fight.
totally agree beo. i think the next time tito and chuck meet, the outcome will be different, pending tito doesnt get too caught up in his porn star girlfriend Jenna...
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lol, just like this time would have been different with sobral? chuck will knock tito out again and again.
hopefully we'll get a chance to see in December.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
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Maybe Liddell is secretly studying JKD where the eye gouge is a nice little tool.