Royce Gracie back in the UFC

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  1. I'm still waiting to hear if any special "Gracie" rules will be added to this match, i.e. no time limits, restrictions on ground striking, and not making them stand up if it gets boring.
    This was the only way Royce would agree to fight Yoshida(220lbs and damn good on the ground) and Yoshida agreed to the rules just to get a chance at a legend. Hughes, IMO, would also agree for the same reason, to legitamitly beat the man who made mma famous in the USA, and in same octagon he did it in. If it was under current ufc rules, I dont think Royce would do it.


  2. this is for the title right? It's not just an exibition match.
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  3. Don't sugar coat it Rogue....tell us how you really feel

    I think that the new rules are in Hughes' favor.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by fbxdan
    When the wrestlers first came on the scene they started killing the bjj guys.
    .....umm vice versa

  5. I want to see Rickson fight a current "star".
    Ive been out of this for a while.....he's been kinda inactive as far as competition goes hasn't he
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Whiskey Steve
    I want to see Rickson fight a current "star".
    I kind of felt the same way when I heard about this fight. I would much rather see Rickson than Royce. No, what I really want to see is Rich and Matt say to hell with the camp BS and do their jobs as competitors and paid entertainers and fight eachother.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by BingeAndPurge
    I kind of felt the same way when I heard about this fight. I would much rather see Rickson than Royce. No, what I really want to see is Rich and Matt say to hell with the camp BS and do their jobs as competitors and paid entertainers and fight eachother.
    Now that would be a fight. I'd like to see that too.

  8. Rickson will never fight any of the top guys now...I don't even think he's fought anyone good in the last few years.
    Was his last MMA Fight against Takada?!

    Thats not because he isn't good....its because they have such different styles....I have seen Sakuraba trashed in fights too.
    I think it's more that Royce never improved his standup. You can't be successful in MMA without knowing everything, standup (kickboxing), grappling (submissions, escapes). Renzo is more of a complete fighter than Royce.
    Silva obviously has Sakuraba's number...also, I think Sak's prime is over. (he's still one of my favs though)

    Very much looking forward to Penn/St. Pierre

  9. What stinks about this fight is that it's another novelty match that further delays GSP and Penn getting a shot at the welterweight belt.

    yup i'm pretty sure its due to the fact they made hughes one of their stars by putting him on the TUF 2 show and want to make sure he stays at the top at least for a while. thats why hes gonna prolly end up fighting riggs, royce, and karo (all guys they dont expect him to have much problem with) before fighting either of the two guys all the hardcore fans know theres a great chance of him losing to (gsp and penn). my prediction is hughes by decision over royce. hughes definitely isnt 100% submission proof though. hallman subbed him twice in like 20 seconds but i'll give it to hughes that was a while ago hes improved since. however other submission guys he's had trouble with recently charuto (i still think charuto beat hughes in that fight) and bj penn (where bj tapped hughes out in the first round). of course bj penn is a lot more well rounded then royce though and thats the difference maker.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by deebs
    Looks like that will be in May. Probably want to milk that for all its worth!

    http://www.ufc.tv/

    The card for the Feb PPV looks sharp though, should be entertaining

    still coming down for it ?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    I don't like it, but I agree with your analysis of the situation. UFC wants to keep well mannered and well spoken cleancut guys like Hughes, Franklin and Couture in front as long as possible. Same with Arlovski, handsome, buff and personable unlike Tim Heehaw Sylvia.

    Closet business *** Dana White has probably been wishing someone would hug Arlovski's waist Like Sylvia's, pull down those knickers and reveal the Moscow Moon for all to appreciate.

    Arlovski will mop the floor with Sylvia....I just don't see that being that great of a fight.

    I want to see GSP AND BJ get a shot at Hughes.....I think that either one of them could beat Hughes and all of those fights will be good ones. At that level of competition, you just never know what will happen. They all possess the ability to win IMO.

  12. someone is feeling "American"

  13. I don't know Hughes had a lot of trouble with Verissimo's jiu-jitsu(should've lost the decision), and Royce has even better jiu-jitsu then Verissimo. Have you guys seen Royce vs. Yoshida 2? I mean Royce pretty much handled Yoshida(albeit Yoshida was not at his best) and he's a 220 pound Judo GOLD MEDALIST. Royce may get tossed around a bit, but I think he'll come out on top. Don't forget that Hughes' weakness is his sub defense, can anyone say Dennis Hallman.

  14. Taken from UG Forum

    From: RoyceGracie
    Date: 01/18/06 12:02 AM
    Member Since: 01/01/2001
    1024 Total Posts Ignore User


    OK, lets put this to rest right now. You want to know my rationale for taking this fight. Because I like challanges, and this will be a challange. People on here sit around and talk a lot of sh*t, Akebono is a chump and anyone with a blue belt level can beat him, really - 320 over my weight, and I submitted him in 2min 13 sec, untill you have tryed that do not talk. The guys I beat in the UFC any blue belt can beat them, well next time you see Ken or Kimo or Dan Severn or Patt Smith, I suggest you bring that up to them, and hope you have your blue belt on, its not going to help you.
    I like challanges, and this is a challange that is why I took the fight, I am taking a pay cut to fight this one, and also fighting under standard UFC rules, I can't even wear gi pants.

    Royce
    Damn, I am starting to like him more and more. The guys has got heart thats for sure.

  15. He must of spent alot of time mastering the ancient art of **** talking. However, he apparently missed the day they covered the sweet science of spelling.

  16. LCSULLA, what forum is that?

  17. A guy from jiujitsugear.com copied it from MMA.tv.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    still coming down for it ?
    yeah im in

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    I don't like it, but I agree with your analysis of the situation. UFC wants to keep well mannered and well spoken cleancut guys like Hughes, Franklin and Couture in front as long as possible. Same with Arlovski, handsome, buff and personable unlike Tim Heehaw Sylvia.

    Closet business *** Dana White has probably been wishing someone would hug Arlovski's waist Like Sylvia's, pull down those knickers and reveal the Moscow Moon for all to appreciate.
    I disagree. UFC has always like big smack-talking sluggers who put on exciting matches despite all the talk about bring the sport into mainstream.

    Baroni and Riggs get plenty of chances at title shots while UFC did alot to keep the title away from Lindland and finally fired him. It might interest you to know that for a time UFC had problems with Couture who was kept out from 97-2000. And Randy had to walk thru some really tough guys to get to the top. Apparently one soft-spoken balding champ is more than enough.

    Franklin and Arlovski are primarily strikers which is what UFC and SpikeTV prefers.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by drunk
    No Gi will not be a problem for Royce. Nobody wore a gi in the early UFCs except for Royce. So he is used to fighting peole without a gi.

    I've never seen him have a problem taking someone to the ground either, except now they'll stand them back up if nothing is going on. My only concern is that Royce hasn't fought for a few years, but you know he'll be ready.
    Royce is past his prime for sure. He got dominated and would've lost a fairly close decision against a 145 featherweight Tokoro 3 weeks ago at K-1 bye. Tokoro had barely 1 week notice to replace Aikiyama who was supposed to fight Royce. Luckily Royce had special rules (no judges) and a 30lb weight advantage so the fight was a automatic draw.

    On the other hand Hughes has had alot of trouble with subs.

    Sure Royce had no problems taking people down in the old days of UFC when there were tons of really clueless 'fighters'. Royce started the myth that being on the bottom is actually advantageous.

  21. I have not seen the Tokoro fight yet, but if you say he got dominated I guess he did. I guess it depends which Royce shows up, If its the Royce that dominated Yoshida, then it should be a great fight. Does anyone think Hughes is gonna keep it standing? I think they'll tie up, it'll go to the ground(hughes on top obviously) and stay their. Should be a great fight. Not necessarily judging by this fight, but the UFC seems to be stepping it up again. I can't wait for GSP vs Penn. I'd really like to see BJ get punished.

  22. striking - hughes
    wrestling - hughes
    submissions - royce
    strength - hughes
    cardio - ??
    takedowns - hughes

    on paper, hughes should win this fight, but you never know. he has had problems with jiu-jitsu fighters in the past. but bj and charuto are better jiu-jitsu artists than royce especially bj.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by tiqdude808
    striking - hughes
    wrestling - hughes
    submissions - royce
    strength - hughes
    cardio - ??
    takedowns - hughes

    on paper, hughes should win this fight, but you never know. he has had problems with jiu-jitsu fighters in the past. but bj and charuto are better jiu-jitsu artists than royce especially bj.
    Im thinking opposite

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Whiskey Steve
    Im thinking opposite
    Whaaaaat?
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