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  1. forrest griffin


    Wtf. Did he throw the fight, or did he actually take n.o. Explode? Lol would explain a lot.


  2. Seems to me like he got knocked out by one of the greatest fighters alive. I didn't see the fight but from what I heard Silva toyed with Griffin and then knocked him out. Just look at what happened to Franklin, and he was an amazing fighter. I think that Anderson Silva is just one of, if not the, best fighter in the UFC right now.
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  3. Heard forrest dislocated his jaw on first knockdown

  4. i heard the jaw issue as well. Shame
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  5. Can anybody beat Silva? Nah
    Think training's hard,. try losing!

  6. It is hard to say how the fight would have played out w/o a dislocated jaw. You have a particular nerve with three roots that runs through your jaw, known as the "trigeminal nerve". Its three branches or "roots" - the opthalamic nerve, the mandibular nerve and maxillary nerves - are bi-functional nerves that are responsible for both motor and sensory function, and carry synapses to the brain. Given this nerve's pathway, acute trauma can cause temporary hearing loss, loss of facial sensation, inhibition of the mastecation muscles, and, finally, unconsciousness. If Forrest's jaw was dislocated by the first KD, and his trigeminal nerve was pinched, trapped or clamped in anyway, a strong wind may have put him down. The KO was neither sad or embarrassing, just very unfortunate due to the place of injury.

  7. Thank god. I really didn't think forrest gave a damn about being knocked out cause I've seen him take a lot more damage than that. Silva is a lot quicker though, and he caught his kick. Sigh

  8. I want to see silvia kick the dung out of the biggest douchbag in the sport... brock "douchbag" leznar.

  9. I would love to see Silva beat up on Rampage at 205 or even Rashad, I dont think either stand a chance. I think at the end of the day we need Silva v. GSP.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by codywaters View Post
    I want to see silvia kick the dung out of the biggest douchbag in the sport... brock "douchbag" leznar.
    agreed....he is nothing more than an oversized blockhead ogre with no class what so ever he is not what a true champion should be (his interview after the Mir fight proved that)

    give us Silva vs. GSP!!! i would love to see GSP own silva and shut this best pound-for-pound fighter in the world crap up for good.


    GSP FTW

  11. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I would love to see Silva beat up on Rampage at 205 or even Rashad, I dont think either stand a chance. I think at the end of the day we need Silva v. GSP.
    I concur. As I have said before, GSP's style is tailor-made to face Anderson, assuming the weight is balanced. Anderson's wrestling is suspect at best, and he only controlled Henderson on the ground b/c Hendo's jitz is not necessarily 'the best'. GSP has, IMO, better MMA wrestling than Hendo, and has the JJ savvy to avoid submissions and transitions from Silva on the ground. What would be the 'X Factor' is if GSP's chin can stand up to Silva's hands.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Bigblondekid View Post
    Seems to me like he got knocked out by one of the greatest fighters alive. I didn't see the fight but from what I heard Silva toyed with Griffin and then knocked him out. Just look at what happened to Franklin, and he was an amazing fighter. I think that Anderson Silva is just one of, if not the, best fighter in the UFC right now.
    you think?.............lol

    P4P spider IS the best, then GSP..........as far as UFC goes.

    I got free lunch, again.........lol

    thanks spidey......

    PS........GSP does NOT beat spider.......

    I will take ANY bet on this........

    if that fight ever happens.

  13. I think GSP and Silva would be a sick fight but silva might be to tall and long arms for GSP to handle but thats why they get in the ring you never know

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    you think?.............lol

    P4P spider IS the best, then GSP..........as far as UFC goes.

    I got free lunch, again.........lol

    thanks spidey......

    PS........GSP does NOT beat spider.......

    I will take ANY bet on this........

    if that fight ever happens.
    Okay, I will bet you a $50 NP gift card. You will be my third gift card won on sporting events on AM! That is, if your money can release its death-grip on Diesel's testicles.

    GSP's resume is more impressive and his skills more diverse, but they are 1a and 1b at this point.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Okay, I will bet you a $50 NP gift card. You will be my third gift card won on sporting events on AM! That is, if your money can release its death-grip on Diesel's testicles.

    GSP's resume is more impressive and his skills more diverse, but they are 1a and 1b at this point.
    Lol............

    nice.........

    I like your loyality to GSP....... I cant wait to see the beating he is gonna take................and i like GSP....... lol....... Silva is just a better fighter.

    But its on!

    Lets negotiate the wagers at a later date brah.......... like when the fight card is announced.......

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Lol............

    nice.........

    I like your loyality to GSP....... I cant wait to see the beating he is gonna take................and i like GSP....... lol....... Silva is just a better fighter.

    But its on!

    Lets negotiate the wagers at a later date brah.......... like when the fight card is announced.......
    Well, that is debatable at best. GSP's wrestling and mat prowess are literally tailor made for the massive hole in Anderson's wrestling game. GSP's disadvantage is not skill, but size - technically, Anderson only holds an advantage in the striking aspect. This being said, GSP has not shown a propensity to get hit, as never took a single strike of significance against Thiago, and has scarcely taken damage since Penn I. Broken down logically, GSP has an advantage, skill-wise, in almost every aspect of the game. The real 'X Factor' here, and the one that would determine the fight, is whether or not GSP can adjust to the size/weight differential of Anderson, given that he is a very large MW. While he easily controlled a bigger, stronger Thiago, that facet remains to be seen. The size differential could prove to stunt GSP's wrestling gameplan, and leave him susceptible to Anderson's better striking - however, normalized to a common weight class for height/weight/reach and so forth - what P4P actually means - GSP is tailor-made to beat Anderson. It is Anderson's ungodly striking that makes him 1b. At any rate, your point is dubious brotha.

    Anyway, we will bet either $50 or $100 gift cards - I mean, given your confidence that's nothing, right?

  17. In case anybody is wondering, Kris and I barb each other for fun.

    I found this article interesting:

    PHILADELPHIA – Hours after the most electrifying domination in a career filled with them, deep in a back hallway of the Wachovia Center, Anderson Silva was waiting for Dana White. Silva is the UFC’s middleweight (185-pound) champion but Saturday he boldly moved up 20 pounds and in a jaw-dropping exhibition, brutalized Forrest Griffin, who just nine months ago was the light heavyweight (205) title holder.

    Silva knocked Griffin down twice, offered a hand to help him up once and then promptly floored him again for good at 3:23 of the first round of UFC 101. Most remarkably, he did it with a punch he threw while backpedaling.

    It was a complete annihilation. Griffin failed to land a single punch and when he came to his senses, he sprung up and ran from the octagon, trying to push through a doctor’s examination.

    “He might be in Georgia by now, he ran out and I haven’t seen him since,” White, the UFC president, joked.

    That Silva could move up a weight class and not just win, but destroy with power, was a game-changing and perhaps UFC-altering moment. That’s what Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, wanted to discuss with White.

    With his arm wrapped around White’s shoulder, Soares leaned in and delivered a proposition. “Spider” Silva would move permanently to light heavyweight, even if it meant the unorthodox move of giving up his middleweight belt.

    “I can do that,” White smiled, a bit stunned at the offer. “I like that. We can do that.”

    Soares smiled and shook White’s hand. Silva had been accosted by a fan by then and couldn’t hear White, but it was presumably the news he was seeking. The man has such outrageous confidence in his abilities he’s willing to potentially toss away a championship he’s owned for almost three years to take a challenge outside his comfort zone.

    “I’d let him,” White said later, sitting in his quiet dressing room. “We’d put [the middleweight title] up for grabs.”

    The hour was late and everyone’s excitement was still high. Perhaps plans and goals change by morning, so White didn’t know what to say officially. This was still just hurried talk. He knew this much though, as a promoter there are more blockbuster fights for Silva at 205 than 185, where he’s beaten everyone of note.

    Silva’s next title defense was supposed to be against Dan Henderson, who Silva savagely choked out in March 2008.

    “Who knows,” White said, wheels already spinning. “We’ll see what happens. In the talks I’ve had with Anderson, he wants to take on the best in the world. He’s the most talented fighter in the world, the best pound for pound fighter and it’s a joke to say anyone else is. And he wants to continue to prove [it].”

    White thought for a moment.

    “He would jump in that mix [at the top of the light heavyweight division],” White said. “You’ve got Rashad [Evans], you’ve got Rampage [Jackson], [Lyoto] Machida is the champion. And Tito [Ortiz] is in the mix now.”

    If Silva did vacate the middleweight title to move up full time, the ironic thing is that he claims it wouldn’t be to pursue the light heavyweight belt. At least as long as it was held by Machida, a fellow Brazilian and training partner.

    “Lyoto is my friend, he is my brother and there is no way that fight will ever happen,” Silva said.

    White, coveting a clash between two men who are both unbeaten in UFC competition, brushes that talk aside.

    “I’ll make it happen,” White said winking his eye. “It’s not even about money. It’s about proving you’re the best, it’s about securing your place in history. It’s about putting on a super fight that fans want to see.

    “I’m all about making big fights that fans want to see.”

    Saturday was one of those fights. Silva was motivated by criticism that his last two fights – both victories mind you ¬– were dull, so he gladly moved up to take on a dangerous Griffin, who was known for his attack dog style.

    It was intriguing, at least until Silva started toying with Griffin. He knocked Griffin down at will, dared him to connect with a punch, challenged him to be as tough as his reputation and then finally just finished him.

    Coming in there was a “Rocky” element to the fight, Griffin the heavy underdog with the Philly crowd firmly behind him and booing Silva. By the end, Griffin was gone and Silva was being cheered. It was the recognition of brilliance overcoming any easy Hollywood storylines.

    “He wants to be involved in the biggest fights we can put together,” Soares said.

    The fact Silva took this fight is a testament to that. The Brazilian is 25-4 overall and has won all 10 of his fights in the UFC. At age 34, he could’ve sat at middleweight and potentially won 10 more, making nice money with relatively little risk in a division he’s been untouchable in.

    That isn’t him though. Not even close.

    So not long after stunning the sport with a legendary performance, there he and his manager were, trying to force a back-hall huddle with the UFC kingmaker. Move Silva to light heavyweight for good, they suggested to White.

    With nothing left to prove at middleweight, Anderson Silva now wants to lay waste to a whole new division of the UFC. He doesn’t need a belt to prove a thing.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Well, that is debatable at best. GSP's wrestling and mat prowess are literally tailor made for the massive hole in Anderson's wrestling game. GSP's disadvantage is not skill, but size - technically, Anderson only holds an advantage in the striking aspect. This being said, GSP has not shown a propensity to get hit, as never took a single strike of significance against Thiago, and has scarcely taken damage since Penn I. Broken down logically, GSP has an advantage, skill-wise, in almost every aspect of the game. The real 'X Factor' here, and the one that would determine the fight, is whether or not GSP can adjust to the size/weight differential of Anderson, given that he is a very large MW. While he easily controlled a bigger, stronger Thiago, that facet remains to be seen. The size differential could prove to stunt GSP's wrestling gameplan, and leave him susceptible to Anderson's better striking - however, normalized to a common weight class for height/weight/reach and so forth - what P4P actually means - GSP is tailor-made to beat Anderson. It is Anderson's ungodly striking that makes him 1b. At any rate, your point is dubious brotha.

    Anyway, we will bet either $50 or $100 gift cards - I mean, given your confidence that's nothing, right?
    We can do more brah, my pockets are not shallow..........(nor are they deep) But for this fight i can mortgage the farm

    I hear your argument on paper. Thats fine......It happens EVERY SUNDAY during football season....The team that wins on paper loses........

    That is a team loss, however, the analogy still holds merit in this argument. GSP on paper looks alot better,,,, except in raw instinct and striking. (training and experience are a given)

    I honestly dont think we have seen the spider actually challenged by any fight he has had in the UFC............Maybe, and thats a big maybe that GSP will actually deliver.....lol.........not likely.

    Make it $250 brah...............cash though..........I dont have the need for NP gift cards. Cash always stings a tad more as well......

    See you on fight night.........

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    I honestly dont think we have seen the spider actually challenged by any fight he has had in the UFC............Maybe, and thats a big maybe that GSP will actually deliver.....lol.........not likely.
    Very true, GSP has shown a proclivity of crumbling under the pressure as of late - you know, destroying Fitch, Penn and Thiago in a row without losing a round. And of course, Anderson's wrestling is top-notch. Apparently you just started watching MMA with TUF9?

    Make it $250 brah...............cash though..........I dont have the need for NP gift cards. Cash always stings a tad more as well......

    See you on fight night.........
    If you want to lose that much money, I can easily swing that. Make sure you provide collateral and/or a contract, though: I have had to harass the last two losers for three weeks until I was payed - and the last one, on GSP/Thiago, still hasn't payed.

    As I said, the fight plays out in a certain manner because GSP either masses properly, or he does not. This is a huge jump in weight for him, and it will dictate the fight. This being said, Anderson's wrestling game is suspicious at best, and GSP is the best wrestler in MMA, and has the most varied striking in MMA. As much as I appreciate Anderson, GSP matches up better with him than anybody else in MMA.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Very true, GSP has shown a proclivity of crumbling under the pressure as of late - you know, destroying Fitch, Penn and Thiago in a row without losing a round. And of course, Anderson's wrestling is top-notch. Apparently you just started watching MMA with TUF9?



    If you want to lose that much money, I can easily swing that.

    As I said, the fight plays out in a certain manner because GSP either masses properly, or he does not. This is a huge jump in weight for him, and it will dictate the fight. This being said, Anderson's wrestling game is suspicious at best, and GSP is the best wrestler in MMA, and has the most varied striking in MMA. As much as I appreciate Anderson, GSP matches up better with him than anybody else in MMA.

    Blah, Blah, Blah.............

    Next time you hear from me I will be saying.......

    Pay up trick.

    lol..........

    See you on the flip mullet............

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Blah, Blah, Blah.............

    Next time you hear from me I will be saying.......

    Pay up trick.

    lol..........

    See you on the flip mullet............
    Bye sweetie. Keep that money fresh for me.

  22. I would love to see Anderson at 205 full time and GSP full time at 185. Hell, make the winner of Nate/Maia fight Hendo for the belt. Give GSP a few tuneups at 185 then fight for the belt.

    Anderson has a wide array at 205 to fight. Winner of Jardine/Thiago, Rampage, Shogun and Tito.

    Would be great imo and open up better fights at 3 weightclasses (170,185, and 205).

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    In case anybody is wondering, Kris and I barb each other for fun.

    I found this article interesting:

    PHILADELPHIA – Hours after the most electrifying domination in a career filled with them, deep in a back hallway of the Wachovia Center, Anderson Silva was waiting for Dana White. Silva is the UFC’s middleweight (185-pound) champion but Saturday he boldly moved up 20 pounds and in a jaw-dropping exhibition, brutalized Forrest Griffin, who just nine months ago was the light heavyweight (205) title holder.

    Silva knocked Griffin down twice, offered a hand to help him up once and then promptly floored him again for good at 3:23 of the first round of UFC 101. Most remarkably, he did it with a punch he threw while backpedaling.

    It was a complete annihilation. Griffin failed to land a single punch and when he came to his senses, he sprung up and ran from the octagon, trying to push through a doctor’s examination.

    “He might be in Georgia by now, he ran out and I haven’t seen him since,” White, the UFC president, joked.

    That Silva could move up a weight class and not just win, but destroy with power, was a game-changing and perhaps UFC-altering moment. That’s what Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, wanted to discuss with White.

    With his arm wrapped around White’s shoulder, Soares leaned in and delivered a proposition. “Spider” Silva would move permanently to light heavyweight, even if it meant the unorthodox move of giving up his middleweight belt.

    “I can do that,” White smiled, a bit stunned at the offer. “I like that. We can do that.”

    Soares smiled and shook White’s hand. Silva had been accosted by a fan by then and couldn’t hear White, but it was presumably the news he was seeking. The man has such outrageous confidence in his abilities he’s willing to potentially toss away a championship he’s owned for almost three years to take a challenge outside his comfort zone.

    “I’d let him,” White said later, sitting in his quiet dressing room. “We’d put [the middleweight title] up for grabs.”

    The hour was late and everyone’s excitement was still high. Perhaps plans and goals change by morning, so White didn’t know what to say officially. This was still just hurried talk. He knew this much though, as a promoter there are more blockbuster fights for Silva at 205 than 185, where he’s beaten everyone of note.

    Silva’s next title defense was supposed to be against Dan Henderson, who Silva savagely choked out in March 2008.

    “Who knows,” White said, wheels already spinning. “We’ll see what happens. In the talks I’ve had with Anderson, he wants to take on the best in the world. He’s the most talented fighter in the world, the best pound for pound fighter and it’s a joke to say anyone else is. And he wants to continue to prove [it].”

    White thought for a moment.

    “He would jump in that mix [at the top of the light heavyweight division],” White said. “You’ve got Rashad [Evans], you’ve got Rampage [Jackson], [Lyoto] Machida is the champion. And Tito [Ortiz] is in the mix now.”

    If Silva did vacate the middleweight title to move up full time, the ironic thing is that he claims it wouldn’t be to pursue the light heavyweight belt. At least as long as it was held by Machida, a fellow Brazilian and training partner.

    “Lyoto is my friend, he is my brother and there is no way that fight will ever happen,” Silva said.

    White, coveting a clash between two men who are both unbeaten in UFC competition, brushes that talk aside.

    “I’ll make it happen,” White said winking his eye. “It’s not even about money. It’s about proving you’re the best, it’s about securing your place in history. It’s about putting on a super fight that fans want to see.

    “I’m all about making big fights that fans want to see.”

    Saturday was one of those fights. Silva was motivated by criticism that his last two fights – both victories mind you ¬– were dull, so he gladly moved up to take on a dangerous Griffin, who was known for his attack dog style.

    It was intriguing, at least until Silva started toying with Griffin. He knocked Griffin down at will, dared him to connect with a punch, challenged him to be as tough as his reputation and then finally just finished him.

    Coming in there was a “Rocky” element to the fight, Griffin the heavy underdog with the Philly crowd firmly behind him and booing Silva. By the end, Griffin was gone and Silva was being cheered. It was the recognition of brilliance overcoming any easy Hollywood storylines.

    “He wants to be involved in the biggest fights we can put together,” Soares said.

    The fact Silva took this fight is a testament to that. The Brazilian is 25-4 overall and has won all 10 of his fights in the UFC. At age 34, he could’ve sat at middleweight and potentially won 10 more, making nice money with relatively little risk in a division he’s been untouchable in.

    That isn’t him though. Not even close.

    So not long after stunning the sport with a legendary performance, there he and his manager were, trying to force a back-hall huddle with the UFC kingmaker. Move Silva to light heavyweight for good, they suggested to White.

    With nothing left to prove at middleweight, Anderson Silva now wants to lay waste to a whole new division of the UFC. He doesn’t need a belt to prove a thing.
    Someone needs to send this article to Fedor.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I would love to see Anderson at 205 full time and GSP full time at 185. Hell, make the winner of Nate/Maia fight Hendo for the belt. Give GSP a few tuneups at 185 then fight for the belt.

    Anderson has a wide array at 205 to fight. Winner of Jardine/Thiago, Rampage, Shogun and Tito.

    Would be great imo and open up better fights at 3 weightclasses (170,185, and 205).
    Totally agree. I'm actually unsure how GSP would fare against Silva, given the size disparity - I just like getting under Kris' skin.
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