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Wtf. Did he throw the fight, or did he actually take n.o. Explode? Lol would explain a lot.
agreed....he is nothing more than an oversized blockhead ogre with no class what so ever he is not what a true champion should be (his interview after the Mir fight proved that)I want to see silvia kick the dung out of the biggest douchbag in the sport... brock "douchbag" leznar.
I concur. As I have said before, GSP's style is tailor-made to face Anderson, assuming the weight is balanced. Anderson's wrestling is suspect at best, and he only controlled Henderson on the ground b/c Hendo's jitz is not necessarily 'the best'. GSP has, IMO, better MMA wrestling than Hendo, and has the JJ savvy to avoid submissions and transitions from Silva on the ground. What would be the 'X Factor' is if GSP's chin can stand up to Silva's hands.I would love to see Silva beat up on Rampage at 205 or even Rashad, I dont think either stand a chance. I think at the end of the day we need Silva v. GSP.
you think?.............lolSeems to me like he got knocked out by one of the greatest fighters alive. I didn't see the fight but from what I heard Silva toyed with Griffin and then knocked him out. Just look at what happened to Franklin, and he was an amazing fighter. I think that Anderson Silva is just one of, if not the, best fighter in the UFC right now.
Okay, I will bet you a $50 NP gift card. You will be my third gift card won on sporting events on AM! That is, if your money can release its death-grip on Diesel's testicles.you think?.............lol
P4P spider IS the best, then GSP..........as far as UFC goes.
I got free lunch, again.........lol
thanks spidey......
PS........GSP does NOT beat spider.......
I will take ANY bet on this........
if that fight ever happens.
Lol............Okay, I will bet you a $50 NP gift card. You will be my third gift card won on sporting events on AM! That is, if your money can release its death-grip on Diesel's testicles.
GSP's resume is more impressive and his skills more diverse, but they are 1a and 1b at this point.
Well, that is debatable at best. GSP's wrestling and mat prowess are literally tailor made for the massive hole in Anderson's wrestling game. GSP's disadvantage is not skill, but size - technically, Anderson only holds an advantage in the striking aspect. This being said, GSP has not shown a propensity to get hit, as never took a single strike of significance against Thiago, and has scarcely taken damage since Penn I. Broken down logically, GSP has an advantage, skill-wise, in almost every aspect of the game. The real 'X Factor' here, and the one that would determine the fight, is whether or not GSP can adjust to the size/weight differential of Anderson, given that he is a very large MW. While he easily controlled a bigger, stronger Thiago, that facet remains to be seen. The size differential could prove to stunt GSP's wrestling gameplan, and leave him susceptible to Anderson's better striking - however, normalized to a common weight class for height/weight/reach and so forth - what P4P actually means - GSP is tailor-made to beat Anderson. It is Anderson's ungodly striking that makes him 1b. At any rate, your point is dubious brotha.Lol............
nice.........
I like your loyality to GSP....... I cant wait to see the beating he is gonna take................and i like GSP....... lol....... Silva is just a better fighter.
But its on!
Lets negotiate the wagers at a later date brah.......... like when the fight card is announced.......
We can do more brah, my pockets are not shallow..........(nor are they deep) But for this fight i can mortgage the farmWell, that is debatable at best. GSP's wrestling and mat prowess are literally tailor made for the massive hole in Anderson's wrestling game. GSP's disadvantage is not skill, but size - technically, Anderson only holds an advantage in the striking aspect. This being said, GSP has not shown a propensity to get hit, as never took a single strike of significance against Thiago, and has scarcely taken damage since Penn I. Broken down logically, GSP has an advantage, skill-wise, in almost every aspect of the game. The real 'X Factor' here, and the one that would determine the fight, is whether or not GSP can adjust to the size/weight differential of Anderson, given that he is a very large MW. While he easily controlled a bigger, stronger Thiago, that facet remains to be seen. The size differential could prove to stunt GSP's wrestling gameplan, and leave him susceptible to Anderson's better striking - however, normalized to a common weight class for height/weight/reach and so forth - what P4P actually means - GSP is tailor-made to beat Anderson. It is Anderson's ungodly striking that makes him 1b. At any rate, your point is dubious brotha.
Anyway, we will bet either $50 or $100 gift cards - I mean, given your confidence that's nothing, right?
Very true, GSP has shown a proclivity of crumbling under the pressure as of late - you know, destroying Fitch, Penn and Thiago in a row without losing a round. And of course, Anderson's wrestling is top-notch. Apparently you just started watching MMA with TUF9?I honestly dont think we have seen the spider actually challenged by any fight he has had in the UFC............Maybe, and thats a big maybe that GSP will actually deliver.....lol.........not likely.
If you want to lose that much money, I can easily swing that. Make sure you provide collateral and/or a contract, though: I have had to harass the last two losers for three weeks until I was payed - and the last one, on GSP/Thiago, still hasn't payed.Make it $250 brah...............cash though..........I dont have the need for NP gift cards. Cash always stings a tad more as well......
See you on fight night.........
Very true, GSP has shown a proclivity of crumbling under the pressure as of late - you know, destroying Fitch, Penn and Thiago in a row without losing a round. And of course, Anderson's wrestling is top-notch. Apparently you just started watching MMA with TUF9?
If you want to lose that much money, I can easily swing that.
As I said, the fight plays out in a certain manner because GSP either masses properly, or he does not. This is a huge jump in weight for him, and it will dictate the fight. This being said, Anderson's wrestling game is suspicious at best, and GSP is the best wrestler in MMA, and has the most varied striking in MMA. As much as I appreciate Anderson, GSP matches up better with him than anybody else in MMA.
Bye sweetie. Keep that money fresh for me. :bling:Blah, Blah, Blah.............
Next time you hear from me I will be saying.......
Pay up trick.
lol..........
See you on the flip mullet............
Someone needs to send this article to Fedor.In case anybody is wondering, Kris and I barb each other for fun.
I found this article interesting:
PHILADELPHIA – Hours after the most electrifying domination in a career filled with them, deep in a back hallway of the Wachovia Center, Anderson Silva was waiting for Dana White. Silva is the UFC’s middleweight (185-pound) champion but Saturday he boldly moved up 20 pounds and in a jaw-dropping exhibition, brutalized Forrest Griffin, who just nine months ago was the light heavyweight (205) title holder.
Silva knocked Griffin down twice, offered a hand to help him up once and then promptly floored him again for good at 3:23 of the first round of UFC 101. Most remarkably, he did it with a punch he threw while backpedaling.
It was a complete annihilation. Griffin failed to land a single punch and when he came to his senses, he sprung up and ran from the octagon, trying to push through a doctor’s examination.
“He might be in Georgia by now, he ran out and I haven’t seen him since,” White, the UFC president, joked.
That Silva could move up a weight class and not just win, but destroy with power, was a game-changing and perhaps UFC-altering moment. That’s what Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, wanted to discuss with White.
With his arm wrapped around White’s shoulder, Soares leaned in and delivered a proposition. “Spider” Silva would move permanently to light heavyweight, even if it meant the unorthodox move of giving up his middleweight belt.
“I can do that,” White smiled, a bit stunned at the offer. “I like that. We can do that.”
Soares smiled and shook White’s hand. Silva had been accosted by a fan by then and couldn’t hear White, but it was presumably the news he was seeking. The man has such outrageous confidence in his abilities he’s willing to potentially toss away a championship he’s owned for almost three years to take a challenge outside his comfort zone.
“I’d let him,” White said later, sitting in his quiet dressing room. “We’d put [the middleweight title] up for grabs.”
The hour was late and everyone’s excitement was still high. Perhaps plans and goals change by morning, so White didn’t know what to say officially. This was still just hurried talk. He knew this much though, as a promoter there are more blockbuster fights for Silva at 205 than 185, where he’s beaten everyone of note.
Silva’s next title defense was supposed to be against Dan Henderson, who Silva savagely choked out in March 2008.
“Who knows,” White said, wheels already spinning. “We’ll see what happens. In the talks I’ve had with Anderson, he wants to take on the best in the world. He’s the most talented fighter in the world, the best pound for pound fighter and it’s a joke to say anyone else is. And he wants to continue to prove [it].”
White thought for a moment.
“He would jump in that mix [at the top of the light heavyweight division],” White said. “You’ve got Rashad [Evans], you’ve got Rampage [Jackson], [Lyoto] Machida is the champion. And Tito [Ortiz] is in the mix now.”
If Silva did vacate the middleweight title to move up full time, the ironic thing is that he claims it wouldn’t be to pursue the light heavyweight belt. At least as long as it was held by Machida, a fellow Brazilian and training partner.
“Lyoto is my friend, he is my brother and there is no way that fight will ever happen,” Silva said.
White, coveting a clash between two men who are both unbeaten in UFC competition, brushes that talk aside.
“I’ll make it happen,” White said winking his eye. “It’s not even about money. It’s about proving you’re the best, it’s about securing your place in history. It’s about putting on a super fight that fans want to see.
“I’m all about making big fights that fans want to see.”
Saturday was one of those fights. Silva was motivated by criticism that his last two fights – both victories mind you ¬– were dull, so he gladly moved up to take on a dangerous Griffin, who was known for his attack dog style.
It was intriguing, at least until Silva started toying with Griffin. He knocked Griffin down at will, dared him to connect with a punch, challenged him to be as tough as his reputation and then finally just finished him.
Coming in there was a “Rocky” element to the fight, Griffin the heavy underdog with the Philly crowd firmly behind him and booing Silva. By the end, Griffin was gone and Silva was being cheered. It was the recognition of brilliance overcoming any easy Hollywood storylines.
“He wants to be involved in the biggest fights we can put together,” Soares said.
The fact Silva took this fight is a testament to that. The Brazilian is 25-4 overall and has won all 10 of his fights in the UFC. At age 34, he could’ve sat at middleweight and potentially won 10 more, making nice money with relatively little risk in a division he’s been untouchable in.
That isn’t him though. Not even close.
So not long after stunning the sport with a legendary performance, there he and his manager were, trying to force a back-hall huddle with the UFC kingmaker. Move Silva to light heavyweight for good, they suggested to White.
With nothing left to prove at middleweight, Anderson Silva now wants to lay waste to a whole new division of the UFC. He doesn’t need a belt to prove a thing.
Totally agree. I'm actually unsure how GSP would fare against Silva, given the size disparity - I just like getting under Kris' skin.I would love to see Anderson at 205 full time and GSP full time at 185. Hell, make the winner of Nate/Maia fight Hendo for the belt. Give GSP a few tuneups at 185 then fight for the belt.
Anderson has a wide array at 205 to fight. Winner of Jardine/Thiago, Rampage, Shogun and Tito.
Would be great imo and open up better fights at 3 weightclasses (170,185, and 205).
I would love to see the fight, I do think Silva would most likely win, due to the size disparity and the fact he is still lightewning quick with the weight. However, take Silva out of 185 and move GSP in, and I love that weight class. There are a wide array of exciting fightsTotally agree. I'm actually unsure how GSP would fare against Silva, given the size disparity - I just like getting under Kris' skin.
The size difference really cannot be understated. While I think GSP is a superior athlete, competitor and fighter pound-for-pound, the fact that Silva can viably fight at 205 makes the divergence in poundage huge. In order to make that fight interesting, GSP would need to put on at least 20lbs of solid mass to reach a walking weight of ~210 or so. As I say, as long as the size is normalized, GSP's style is literally tailor-made to beat Anderson. I think it is safe to say Anderson has never faced a striker as varied or a wrestler as dominant as GSP [all respects to Hendo]. Again, though: the size difference is just massive.I would love to see the fight, I do think Silva would most likely win, due to the size disparity and the fact he is still lightewning quick with the weight. However, take Silva out of 185 and move GSP in, and I love that weight class. There are a wide array of exciting fights
i think gsp stands a very good chance if anderson and gsp were to fight i would not be surprised if it turned out alot like gsp alves... but if anderson hits gsp theres a very good chance he will go down... :18:lol at people who think gsp actually stands a chance against Silva.
Yes, well the issue is that GSP has never faced a bigger, accurate and brutal MT striker. And if he did, he probably would not out-point him on the feet and then take him down at will. Oh yeah, that just happened, ha.Anderson has some of the most accurate and deadly knees also in MMA which for a wrestler can be a monstrous detour. I have a very deep wrestling background and have been training for the past 2 years in MMA and I can assure guys with good knees make takedowns a LOT more difficult.
Theoretically, if Machida and Silva were in someway, somehow coerced to fight, it would be a super lame fight. At best it'd be a front seat to a sparring session, I don't think either one could bring themselves to finish off the other. It'd be a multimillion dollar sparring match in my opinion. Anything less then some sort of horrific, bad blood fall out, a Machida/Silva fight would not be exciting. The Brazilians are no joke when it comes to respect and loyalty for their brothers in arms (there are exceptions, but these two are the exceptionally loyal versions). Unlike Rampage/Hendo or Lidell/Ortiz fight, I don't think you'd have either Machida or Silva going in to finish the guy.I think GSP could beat Silva if they met at a catch weight, but it would be very difficult for him to do it. The size/strength advantage is hard to overlook. I'd love to see it though. I have a feeling Silva would not be doing his ****y showboat antics if he was in the ring with GSP.
Flip it to the other side, and I have zero doubts that Fedor would destroy Silva if they could ever fight. I'd rather see that than Fedor vs Lesner. Ok, destroy is not the right word, but rather the emotional word, lol. I'd pick Fedor to beat Silva, and I think it would be an awesome fight (and make them lots of $$$) too
Lyoto Machida vs Silva would be a very, very interesting fight. Too bad Silva says he won't do it - they are both extremely elusive and fast.
Which it will!Either way, a Fedor in the UFC fight is years off I'm sure, unless Strikeforce sinks prematurely.
I think you're right. Although Silva didn't go for blood with Forrest either. I could see a Machida/Silva fight looking more like a sparring session. Their promos would definitely be unhyped and clean.Theoretically, if Machida and Silva were in someway, somehow coerced to fight, it would be a super lame fight. At best it'd be a front seat to a sparring session, I don't think either one could bring themselves to finish off the other. It'd be a multimillion dollar sparring match in my opinion. Anything less then some sort of horrific, bad blood fall out, a Machida/Silva fight would not be exciting. The Brazilians are no joke when it comes to respect and loyalty for their brothers in arms (there are exceptions, but these two are the exceptionally loyal versions). Unlike Rampage/Hendo or Lidell/Ortiz fight, I don't think you'd have either Machida or Silva going in to finish the guy.
Fedor/Silva or Silva/GSP? I'm not thoroughly convinced Silva is in Fedor's league yet. I'd almost rather see Silva beat/fight GSP to see if he could handle Fedor. Silva's weak points are his TD defense and getting flustered fighting off his back and GSP happens to have the UFC's number one TD's, along with being able to control from the top like no one else. If Silva could overcome a fighter like GSP, where GSP's style would be his kryptonite, then I'd really want to see a Silva/Fedor.
In terms of skill sets, Fedor is complete, Silva is 90%, that lack being his TDD and working off his back. Plus, Fedor would have the power/strength advantage on top of his superior skill set.
I hate to break it to you, but they've been around just a tad longer than the Zuffa-owned UFC.Which it will!
All due respect to Silva's increasing talent, however, although I would favor Silva in a fight against GSP, in terms of style vs style and a very specific weakness to strength ratio that exists between these two particular fighters (Silva/GSP), it could actually be a very good fight, theoretically.silva would kill GSP. i dont think its a knock (no pun intended lol) on griffin, silvas just that good. hes the best in ufc, bar none. im drooling for a machida/silva show!
i can fully agree with that, then i think of silva and my mind tells me "gsp would get KO'd." :laugh2:in terms of style vs style and a very specific weakness to strength ratio that exists between these two particular fighters (Silva/GSP), it could actually be a very good fight, theoretically.
I have realized saying anything but, "With one arm tied behind his back, Silva would rape and murder GSP's entire camp" is unacceptable right now, V. You have to remember: we are talking about the guy who beat Chris Leben and was proclaimed P4P#1 right after.All due respect to Silva's increasing talent, however, although I would favor Silva in a fight against GSP, in terms of style vs style and a very specific weakness to strength ratio that exists between these two particular fighters (Silva/GSP), it could actually be a very good fight, theoretically.
The biggest mediating factor in a GSP/Silva fight would depend on how big of an issue Silva's size would be to GSP. Silva doesn't work well off his back and GSP specializes in putting people on their backs, along with one of MMA's most reputable ground control ability.
I'm not really a GSP fan, of the two, I actually like Silva better, but objectively speaking, the style of fighter GSP is, is the only real weakness Silva has (TDD, working off the back).
In theory, I would LOVE to see Silva and Machida go at it, but realistically, apart from Silva having already sworn he wouldn't fight his training partner, Machida, even if Dana managed to coerce them to fight, two inherently defensive and evasive fighters, who are reluctant to attack each other, makes for 5 rounds of pace checking pokes and foot work. I think it'd be worse then a Hapkido tournament (exaggerated analogy). I think a Silva/Machida fight would be the hottest fight in all of MMA right now, "on paper," but unless they have some sort of bad blood falling out, a Silva/Machida "fight," would be a very expensive sparring session at best, imo.
I am not knocking A. Silva; just pointing out how people are quick to either praise and/or dismiss a fighter, especially in light of KOs.chris leben as gay as he is have a decent track record. andersons pride record was good too. not HUGE names like fedor but good. i think that fight could go either way it all comes down to what guy shows up. fighting at 185 could be very hard for gsp tho. they should meet at 177 haha
Your dog picture is fricken awesome.I am not knocking A. Silva; just pointing out how people are quick to either praise and/or dismiss a fighter, especially in light of KOs.
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