BJ Penn vs GSP-The rematch

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Could be, though it is highly doubtful. Again, as I said above, there were even individuals in this thread who put forward the exact same argument for GSP/Penn II. I do not buy the, "BJ moved up a weight class" premise in any sense: BJ moved to 205 and gave Machida trouble.

    GSP is long enough and an accurate enough striker to stave off damage from Anderson; his wrestling is far better than anybody Anderson has faced, and would score him TDs; and I believe he would be able to GnP once it hit the ground.

    We can always bet $100 on the fight, though. It would add to my collection of winnings from "fighters that were better than GSP in all aspects aside from wrestling".

    If and when that fight comes to fruition, I am in on that bet.


  2. just as an fyi, GSP in an interview with yahoo said he walks only at 188. If that is so (right from the horses mouth) the size differential will be very large
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    On a side note, did anybody notice Gomi and Kid in attendance?
    Did not notice Gomi
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  4. Anyone else felt like Guida did NOTHING to diserve that decision win?

    I personally found it RIDICULOUS. He did NOTHING the entire fight. I don't think he ever landed a punch. All he did was hold him, hold him some more, then hold him more. He took NO advantage of any positions, he never tried to progress in the fight, all he did was hug Diaz, who on the other hand was just landing punches, doing transitions, taking him down, sweeping, etc.

    Guida controlled the ring but he did nothing besides that. Nothing at all.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Anyone else felt like Guida did NOTHING to diserve that decision win?

    I personally found it RIDICULOUS. He did NOTHING the entire fight. I don't think he ever landed a punch. All he did was hold him, hold him some more, then hold him more. He took NO advantage of any positions, he never tried to progress in the fight, all he did was hug Diaz, who on the other hand was just landing punches, doing transitions, taking him down, sweeping, etc.

    Guida controlled the ring but he did nothing besides that. Nothing at all.
    My only beef was with Karo's decision win.
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  6. I wasn't too sure about that one either, seemed to me like it was going to be an "easy" one after the fight.

    But I just think that UFC should be awarding victories to people who are doing the most, not for the ones who are preventing their opponents from doing anything while not doing any damage themselves. That's what I found ridiculous. The better man didn't win, the most aggresive didn't win, the guy who won was the one who tried to not let an actual fight happen. Horrible IMHO.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    just as an fyi, GSP in an interview with yahoo said he walks only at 188. If that is so (right from the horses mouth) the size differential will be very large
    Of course, as fighters never deliberately gain weight for a fight in a higher weight-class. He walks around at 188 for welterweight. If the fight took place, he would surely gain at least several pounds and cut down.




  8. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Could be, though it is highly doubtful. Again, as I said above, there were even individuals in this thread who put forward the exact same argument for GSP/Penn II. I do not buy the, "BJ moved up a weight class" premise in any sense: BJ moved to 205 and gave Machida trouble.

    GSP is long enough and an accurate enough striker to stave off damage from Anderson; his wrestling is far better than anybody Anderson has faced, and would score him TDs; and I believe he would be able to GnP once it hit the ground.

    We can always bet $100 on the fight, though. It would add to my collection of winnings from "fighters that were better than GSP in all aspects aside from wrestling".


    I totally agree and would add I've never seen GSP more focused and determined. He is intellingent, trains with the best.... and probably outworks, outsmarts and out-gameplans almost everyone out there. As of now he is 100% determined to be the best. His determination is very inspiring & motivating. I haven't been this motivated since the 1st Rocky movies came out watching Sylvester running and drinking those raw eggs. Just thinking of GSP training gives me goosebumps.

    P.S. I am not a GSP nuthugger! Just calling it the way I see it.

    Loved Machida's mastery the best!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Of course, as fighters never deliberately gain weight for a fight in a higher weight-class. He walks around at 188 for welterweight. If the fight took place, he would surely gain at least several pounds and cut down.



    That is great and all, however he better have other fights at 185 to get used to the weight,not jump in and fight the best in the world

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    That is great and all, however he better have other fights at 185 to get used to the weight,not jump in and fight the best in the world
    i agree with reaper in those one, if he goes up weight he should def fight a few before steppin to anderson. dont get me wrong i would love to see that fight just like the whole world does but its not time for that for either one of them. gsp if goes up has to get used to fighting heavier fighters before going all out. it would prolly be the biggest fight ever but i dont see it happing for a while. off the subject a miin but did you all hear this crap about jackson vs jardean. wtf who gives two ****s bout that fight, jardean got ko'd by silvia, jackson ko'd jardean so what dum**** reason is this fight happeining. dont get me wrong jardean is a warrior and beat forrest a long time ago but if they fought forrest would prolly domaniate. this fight to me is useless paperview. jus wanted to add that. but i give it to penn for not tappin out, he's a lot better at 155.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Anyone else felt like Guida did NOTHING to diserve that decision win?

    I personally found it RIDICULOUS. He did NOTHING the entire fight. I don't think he ever landed a punch. All he did was hold him, hold him some more, then hold him more. He took NO advantage of any positions, he never tried to progress in the fight, all he did was hug Diaz, who on the other hand was just landing punches, doing transitions, taking him down, sweeping, etc.

    Guida controlled the ring but he did nothing besides that. Nothing at all.
    I'm happy diaz lost.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post

    We can always bet $100 on the fight, though. It would add to my collection of winnings from "fighters that were better than GSP in all aspects aside from wrestling".

    Oh no you di'in't!

  13. Also, I was seriously impressed with John "Bones" Jones! That kid's (hopefully) gonna be a force to reckon with. That spinning elbow was sick!

  14. He is only 21 right?

  15. There's a bunch of my friends that are quite happy about the GSP win; I only caught snippits of it but most guys around here were watching it.

  16. That karo decision was garbage i cant stand that cocky crybaby prick.

    Jones was completely molesting Bonner in the first round, like real bad rapage imo. He gassed early tho, Bonner shouldnt be in the UFC.

    Its funny how BJ jumps from weight classes to fight the best but when we talk about GSP jumping weight class its more of a cautious deal where we have to work him into the class....thats not pound for pound. Im sure A. Silva would jump to a weight class to fight the best if given the chance....so why not GSP?

    Im glad Diaz lost, he was landing punches if you want to call them that. The kid couldnt hurt my grandma come on those were like open handed sparring strikes.

  17. IMO GSP gets KOed by Silva but my opinion means nothing

  18. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    IMO GSP gets KOed by Silva but my opinion means nothing
    Agreed Silva would beat his ass

  19. The fight was absolutely amazing! From start to finish GSP DOMINATED.

  20. Fight pretty much went as expected. However, GSP seemed very apprehensive to stand in the first round. BJ showed real good take down defense on that round too. However, GSP just took over came second round and really got aggressive. BJ does not have the stamina at that weight, and he clearly stopped fighting and just started defending at some point in the fight after getting tired.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post

    Jones was completely molesting Bonner in the first round, like real bad rapage imo. He gassed early tho, Bonner shouldnt be in the UFC.
    I was thinking the same thing, WRT hopefully seeing Bonnar for the last time!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    IMO GSP gets KOed by Silva but my opinion means nothing
    I agree. I also would love to see it happen, however, I think GSP needs a few fights at 185 before fighting Anderson, or else it will be a long night

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Emerge View Post
    Fight pretty much went as expected. However, GSP seemed very apprehensive to stand in the first round. BJ showed real good take down defense on that round too. However, GSP just took over came second round and really got aggressive. BJ does not have the stamina at that weight, and he clearly stopped fighting and just started defending at some point in the fight after getting tired.
    thats why i believe GSP won with his superior strength, he was clearly just wearing down Penn in the clinch against the fence, dude has some massive legs! I was thinking BJ mustve been thinking in his head "damn this dude is strong" thats what broke his spirit imo and thats how GSP made BJ fight his fight, pure physical advantage even with the heavier Penn showing his speed at that weight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    I agree. I also would love to see it happen, however, I think GSP needs a few fights at 185 before fighting Anderson, or else it will be a long night
    lol, long night indeed. Doesnt Silva have some KO's from opponents shooting for takedowns?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    So much for BJ saying GSP is the quitter, when BJ quit.....

    He didn't quit. Dr looked at him and his corner stopped it. Not saying he didn't get beat I gotta give it to GSP he is a hell of a fighter but did you see all those hits GSP was landing right on BJ's head and BJ still didn't tap??? that was a hell of a beating. GSP was just too Big and thats not a knock on GSP. Now I can see why my coach want's to cut down more.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    Im glad Diaz lost, he was landing punches if you want to call them that. The kid couldnt hurt my grandma come on those were like open handed sparring strikes.
    I know we rarely disagree but trust me those punches got something behind them. (Remember who's flag i fly LOL)

  26. It did not appear as if the Doctor mandated the fight be stopped, as his brother ultimately made the call it seems.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It did not appear as if the Doctor mandated the fight be stopped, as his brother ultimately made the call it seems.

    Oh yeah i agree corner made the call but not BJ himself even when he was getting wailed on HARD he didn't tap. I mean GSP had him in a type of cruifix at one point and was just landing clean shots to his head and he kept going. I think GSP is just an animal at Welterweight he deserved it

  28. I think they were referring to his will to fight. Like I said, he stopped attacking at some point. I would imagine that having his guard not only nullified but passed with ease was probably the most frustrating experience for BJ.

  29. whats up peoples?..no links yet?..LOL...
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It did not appear as if the Doctor mandated the fight be stopped, as his brother ultimately made the call it seems.
    Exactly! And no one knows what BJ was saying. He may have said to throw the towel in. With all his power, it seems odd that GSP wasn't able to take him out during the round.
  

  
 

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