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  1. Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens
    Really? Hemavol is a strong, pump-heavy, product. That's very strange, I was expecting you to at least say Citruvol, but I guess not :/

    Maybe you just react well with arginine


  2. I would like to see a protein mix with an RPG or Rag flavor. If I have a long day ahead I like to make my own sports drink with almost all MST products.

    20oz bottle
    1 scoop RPG
    2 caps Athlytes
    2 caps Carnage
    1 scoop ISO-Pure tastes bad but when it is mixed with RPG it is drinkable.
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  3. This ^^^^
    nice concotion TM
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  4. I love it how it work but the ISO-Pure just tastes bad. 6 hours at a hard effort with no bonk. If needed I'll mix the second bottle twice as strong and divide it once I use up the first bottle and get a chance to top off at a water stop. I'll throw in some coconut water on the really hot days. I was a huge Accelerade fan until I found MST and ISO-Pure.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG
    I love it how it work but the ISO-Pure just tastes bad. 6 hours at a hard effort with no bonk. If needed I'll mix the second bottle twice as strong and divide it once I use up the first bottle and get a chance to top off at a water stop. I'll throw in some coconut water on the really hot days. I was a huge Accelerade fan until I found MST and ISO-Pure.
    Very nice!!!
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  6. Hmm, I've put some thought into it, and I feel another agmatine containing product would be good for the industry. I've been looking for what would act in a synergistic fashion with the agmatine, as just another pure agmatine product is not necessarily needed, and the only thing that would really act in such a way, would simply be a carb source. A carb such as a homopolysaccharide, fractionated barley amylopectin, or another novel carb would definitely be interesting. Something else that hasn't been done, that imo should be, is the bonding of agmatine and something else. Agmatine nitrate (would be expensive, but a good seller I'm sure), agmatine malate, and agmatine gluconate would all be solid.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    Hmm, I've put some thought into it, and I feel another agmatine containing product would be good for the industry. I've been looking for what would act in a synergistic fashion with the agmatine, as just another pure agmatine product is not necessarily needed, and the only thing that would really act in such a way, would simply be a carb source. A carb such as a homopolysaccharide, fractionated barley amylopectin, or another novel carb would definitely be interesting. Something else that hasn't been done, that imo should be, is the bonding of agmatine and something else. Agmatine nitrate (would be expensive, but a good seller I'm sure), agmatine malate, and agmatine gluconate would all be solid.
    gluten free though...
    would love a carb source post workout to drop cortisol levels after running. and gluten and wheat eff me right up
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  8. I love RPG and I love the current flavor but something like blue rasberry or the warrior melon would be a nice change, even something like lemon....

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    just tossed an idea towards big M regarding rpg as a flavor option, if he rolls with it, i think everyone will be very happy.
    nothing crazy, but it would be so fitting.
    For? Protein?

    One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    For? Protein?

    One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.
    This would be the ultimate carb to muscle supp evar~~ lol
    RecoverBro ELITE

  11. also, maybe creatine nitrate in the cre-02 for more of a pump and endurance?
    i like the suggestion by ryan and CDMMA. diff flavours will be great. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba would be so so good.
    a glucose disposal agent (better than n2slin and anabolic pump!!!!)
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    For? Protein?

    One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.
    MAN rolled with a product almost exactly like this and it died out fairly quick.
    Agmatine, Grape Seed, Icariin would be sweet though

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    MAN rolled with a product almost exactly like this and it died out fairly quick.
    Agmatine, Grape Seed, Icariin would be sweet though
    Hmm, they did have Blue Print (which was only agmatine + R-ala), but I'm pretty sure they discontinued it, for whatever reason.

    It would actually be like Blue Print + Slin Slane (which seems to sell very well).

  14. thats a good combo there bro!!!
    alpha yohimbine (rauloscwine, sp?) in something?
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  15. Hmm, the endurance product that I mentioned could be BA, (whatever) nitrate, malic acid (or CM), and OxyCeps ATP

    Actually, now that I think about it, agmatine could also be incorporated in a product such as this. Would be a solid product. Hell, you could even add electrolytes to the blend, AthLytes-ATP would work

    At that point, it would essentially be Citruvol + nitrates + agmatine + AthLytes. You guys already have most of the raws, now all you need is the nitrates and agmatine

    Clearly I don't like agmatine

    Yet another product that I've been pondering on, is a stim-free energy product.
    It could contain glucuronolactone, PLCAR and/or ALCAR, mb12, and DMAE.

    One last idea (for now at least), which is quite simple actually, is an electrolyte (carb) mix. That's it. No BCAA's. It could be flavored exactly like RPG, and it would be affordable for everyone. I personally don't use a BCAA product, and mainly because of the price. It would be nice to have something beneficial to sip on during a workout, that isn't loaded with sugars. Plus, people could use it to mask the taste of bulk powders.

    So much for my last idea
    These are really more so thoughts than ideas.
    • While Cre-02 is a solid product, and has a good profile, it is relatively pricey. Here is what I was thinking: a.) the MSRP could be lowered, likely resulting in the retail price to drop as well, b.) a separate formula could be released, where some of the more expensive ingredients were excluded and c.) there could be a powder form, that could have a different profile (if so desired), and the resulting price would likely be considerably lower.

    • Idea C from the previous snippet could be implemented to all/most of the capped products, hopefully resulting in a lesser price, or more servings for the price.

    • Finally, I like how MST has bulk capped beta alanine at a great price. It would be nice to see other bulk products added to the line as well. Though Citruvol is solid, a bulk 2:1 citrulline malate product would be great, or better yet, a separate citrulline and malic acid product. Other products such as: creatine (sort of like the first thought), PLCAR/LCLT/ALCAR (in that order ), nootropics (such as vinpocetine, CDP choline/alpha-GPC, tyrosine, DMAE, theamime (or sulbutiamine), galantamine, etc. etc.), mb12, cissus, and (Na-)R-ala would all be nice to see.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG View Post
    I would like to see a protein mix with an RPG or Rag flavor. If I have a long day ahead I like to make my own sports drink with almost all MST products.

    20oz bottle
    1 scoop RPG
    2 caps Athlytes
    2 caps Carnage
    1 scoop ISO-Pure tastes bad but when it is mixed with RPG it is drinkable.
    So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?


    Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    Hmm, I've put some thought into it, and I feel another agmatine containing product would be good for the industry. I've been looking for what would act in a synergistic fashion with the agmatine, as just another pure agmatine product is not necessarily needed, and the only thing that would really act in such a way, would simply be a carb source. A carb such as a homopolysaccharide, fractionated barley amylopectin, or another novel carb would definitely be interesting. Something else that hasn't been done, that imo should be, is the bonding of agmatine and something else. Agmatine nitrate (would be expensive, but a good seller I'm sure), agmatine malate, and agmatine gluconate would all be solid.
    If that were the case, we'd certainly toss some Cordygen in there since it aids each supplement you take by pumping more oxygen into your blood stream.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA View Post
    For? Protein?

    One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.
    When I use Cre-02 I feel the Poria Cocos acts as a nutrient partitioner fairly well. I feel Cre-02 is a supplement far beyond it's years.
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  17. [QUOTE=CTDeuce;3048789]So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?

    Something like the Ragnorok but without the NO2 would be great. This can be used as the base then you can add what ever else you want to it. Like an Athlyte powder.
    I like the Ragnorok but endurance athletes suffer from the NO2. The motocross racers here hate the NO2 products on race race day. It causes the muscles to fatigue faster or pump and get heavy.
    Athletes are very picky about their drinks. If you can tune your own drink that would be awesome.

    Powder Athlytes
    Powder Carnage
    Powder Protein

  18. [QUOTE=TMCCLUNG;3048910]
    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?

    Something like the Ragnorok but without the NO2 would be great. This can be used as the base then you can add what ever else you want to it. Like an Athlyte powder.
    I like the Ragnorok but endurance athletes suffer from the NO2. The motocross racers here hate the NO2 products on race race day. It causes the muscles to fatigue faster or pump and get heavy.
    Athletes are very picky about their drinks. If you can tune your own drink that would be awesome.

    Powder Athlytes
    Powder Carnage
    Powder Protein
    I know personally what you mean. Ive played tennis at very high levels and have competed nationally in kettlebell competitions. On those days I can't take anything at all that might give me a pump, which is why I usually lure athletes away from citruvol outside of the weight room. I like this line of thinking though...this is definitely something I personally stand behind for sure. I wonder if this is already nin the works...... , who knows.
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  19. looks promising.
    athlytes and c5 in one?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by TMCCLUNG View Post
    So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?

    Something like the Ragnorok but without the NO2 would be great. This can be used as the base then you can add what ever else you want to it. Like an Athlyte powder.
    I like the Ragnorok but endurance athletes suffer from the NO2. The motocross racers here hate the NO2 products on race race day. It causes the muscles to fatigue faster or pump and get heavy.
    Athletes are very picky about their drinks. If you can tune your own drink that would be awesome.

    Powder Athlytes
    Powder Carnage
    Powder Protein
    Hmm, good call for sure, and in this case, they should add back the nootropics, plus others

    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    If that were the case, we'd certainly toss some Cordygen in there since it aids each supplement you take by pumping more oxygen into your blood stream.
    Hmm, that would definitely be nice, but would be on the costly side, that's for sure.

  21. MST cordyceps is worth every penny!!!!!!!!!
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    MST cordyceps is worth every penny!!!!!!!!!
    Haha, the base cost of both agmatine and Cordygen would be pricey though, you can't deny that.

    Not sure how I forgot this, but another addition in my endurance product mentioned earlier, could definitely be COP. A few others could be rhodiola rosea, gynostemma, ginseng/suma root, ashwagandha, arjuna, shilajit/moomiyo, PLCAR, and possibly echinacea, resveratrol, and quercetin.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by CDMMA

    Haha, the base cost of both agmatine and Cordygen would be pricey though, you can't deny that.

    Not sure how I forgot this, but another addition in my endurance product mentioned earlier, could definitely be COP. A few others could be rhodiola rosea, gynostemma, ginseng/suma root, ashwagandha, arjuna, shilajit/moomiyo, PLCAR,and possibly echinacea, resveratrol, and quercetin.
    Now that's a pill that could almost sedate you and make you so mellow. COP is great.
    MST, looking forward to it
    Any Hints Chuck?
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  24. One thing I can tell you....lol.

    We have released a product that right now is just an Australian release, but if we see enough feedback in the states could be out soon. I personally have used it and it's AWESOME.

    Mycogreen powder!! Its the strength of 7 caps in a small scoop you mix with 8-10oz of water or juice. Its freaking amazing.
    Millennium Sport Technologies Representative/Sponsored Athlete
    www.millenniumsport.net
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