While I can't divulge into anything being worked on for release right now at camp MST...what are some things you'd like to see from us in the future?
These would be nice.A nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
For the Win with adaptogenic herbs and someThese would be nice.
stim free and creatine free = citruvolA nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
A drink to chill out...stim free and creatine free = citruvol
you could always add in a nootropic.
Sharing is caring RyanI know what's in the works and I'm not saying a word......everyone here will dig it, trust me.
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good call man. I think a lot of people would agree with you here!A nootropic/focus stim free supplement without creatine. Basically like a creatine and stim free ragnarok...oh how wonderful that would be for late afternoon uni classes...
Thanks for the suggestions. I personally feel like mvp when taken in conjunction with zmk is strong enough for anyone reading these forums. I mean, realistically, if there are top tier division I athletes (which there are), professional triathalon competitors, and professional athletes from various different sports using this combination...it's highly unlikely anyone on these forums is pushing themselves at a stronger rate and needs something with any items left out.Hmm, let's see.
I'd like to see BA and/or CM added to RPG, either, especially both, would make it a fantastic formula. A separate formula could be released, could be called RPG Ultra
Even though you guys already have Enzy-M, it would be nice to see a probiotic as well.
A product combining many different endurance geared ingredients would be cool, such as malic acid, beta alanine, cordyceps, nitrates etc. etc.
While you guys already have CLomega, it would also be nice to see an omega-3 high EPA/DHA fish oil.
On the same level, it would be nice to see a higher tier multi, that included other complexes, the ones that were initially left out.
Two other formulas/products that I would like to see, would be a properly dosed joint formula, along with a test-booster.
One more thing that is not necessarily a product that would be awesome, would be larger bottles, containing at least 2x as many caps.
That's all I have for now, about to eat.
Oh, I'm in no way saying either the multi or the mineral formula is weak in anyway, just when reading the write-up/FAQ I noticed that other complexes that could have been added to MVP, such as a joint blend, didn't make the cut. I was just saying that it would be cool to see an additional multi that included said complexes.Thanks for the suggestions. I personally feel like mvp when taken in conjunction with zmk is strong enough for anyone reading these forums. I mean, realistically, if there are top tier division I athletes (which there are), professional triathalon competitors, and professional athletes from various different sports using this combination...it's highly unlikely anyone on these forums is pushing themselves at a stronger rate and needs something with any items left out.
I'm also not sure why you'd like to see another fish oil product that would rival CLOmega? If you could explain to help me out that would be good so I can field that better.
Im sure plenty would agree with you on the joint formula as well as the test booster.
and as far as the 2x size bottles go, we actually tried that for a long time with C-V02 and some other products and they sat on the shelves at NP and other companies because people would say they couldn't afford to spend that much at one time
A nootropic would be good. Wasn't suggesting like focus XT but more along a rag type with ALCAR or some carnitines form in it and drop the dmae and gluc yeahOh, I'm in no way saying either the multi or the mineral formula is weak in anyway, just when reading the write-up/FAQ I noticed that other complexes that could have been added to MVP, such as a joint blend, didn't make the cut. I was just saying that it would be cool to see an additional multi that included said complexes.
Same goes for the omega-3 recommendation. In no way was I knocking CLOmega, I was just suggesting a omega-3 specific product, opposed to three EFA's.
In regards to the bigger bottles, that is very unfortunate, it was worth a shot though.
One more idea that I slept on, initially I did not agree with runner's idea (with Focus XT on the market), however, after some thought, I too agree that another nootropic blend would be great to see, additionally, it would be nice to see some more nootropics added to RagNOrock, in light of the glucoro, and dmae that were taken out.
Ahh I see.A nootropic would be good. Wasn't suggesting like focus XT but more along a rag type with ALCAR or some carnitines form in it and drop the dmae and gluc yeah
It would be nice to see it re-added, along with the DMAE. ALCAR and PLCAR would both be great additions, as would LCLT. Some other nootropics that I would like to see added, would be tyrosine, CDP choline/alpha-GPC, huperzine a, vinpocetine, and even sulbutiamine. If there's any chance a -racetam could be added, that would be insane!Oh ok.
Gluc gives me energy.
ALCAR and PLCAR for mood and cognition. And some rhodiola, ashwangha, maca or suma root for test all in one. Wow
Sounds good, stoked to see what comes out of MST!the blends are broken down more than most other prop blends you see out there.
i like the product suggestions, and you'll be happy with the additions
with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens[*]Referring back to my "endurance" product, I was thinking, it could be like the Hemavol of endurance products. Because lets be real here, Hemavol is easily one of, if not the best pump product on the market, not to mention all of the other benefits that come along with the pumps.
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Cvol with Cre02 does a bang up job for me.with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens
Really? Hemavol is a strong, pump-heavy, product. That's very strange, I was expecting you to at least say Citruvol, but I guess not :/with ABSOLUTELY no bias whatsoever, I can honestly say that using Nitroceps in conjunction with Cre-02 gives me better and longer lasting pumps than hemavol ever did. I am obviously just one person but if you ever have a few bucks to spend and want to give it a shot, dose both of them 45 mins pre w/o and see what happens
Very nice!!!I love it how it work but the ISO-Pure just tastes bad. 6 hours at a hard effort with no bonk. If needed I'll mix the second bottle twice as strong and divide it once I use up the first bottle and get a chance to top off at a water stop. I'll throw in some coconut water on the really hot days. I was a huge Accelerade fan until I found MST and ISO-Pure.
gluten free though...Hmm, I've put some thought into it, and I feel another agmatine containing product would be good for the industry. I've been looking for what would act in a synergistic fashion with the agmatine, as just another pure agmatine product is not necessarily needed, and the only thing that would really act in such a way, would simply be a carb source. A carb such as a homopolysaccharide, fractionated barley amylopectin, or another novel carb would definitely be interesting. Something else that hasn't been done, that imo should be, is the bonding of agmatine and something else. Agmatine nitrate (would be expensive, but a good seller I'm sure), agmatine malate, and agmatine gluconate would all be solid.
For? Protein?just tossed an idea towards big M regarding rpg as a flavor option, if he rolls with it, i think everyone will be very happy.
nothing crazy, but it would be so fitting.
This would be the ultimate carb to muscle supp evar~~ lolFor? Protein?
One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.
MAN rolled with a product almost exactly like this and it died out fairly quick.For? Protein?
One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.
Hmm, they did have Blue Print (which was only agmatine + R-ala), but I'm pretty sure they discontinued it, for whatever reason.MAN rolled with a product almost exactly like this and it died out fairly quick.
Agmatine, Grape Seed, Icariin would be sweet though
So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?I would like to see a protein mix with an RPG or Rag flavor. If I have a long day ahead I like to make my own sports drink with almost all MST products.
20oz bottle
1 scoop RPG
2 caps Athlytes
2 caps Carnage
1 scoop ISO-Pure tastes bad but when it is mixed with RPG it is drinkable.
If that were the case, we'd certainly toss some Cordygen in there since it aids each supplement you take by pumping more oxygen into your blood stream.Hmm, I've put some thought into it, and I feel another agmatine containing product would be good for the industry. I've been looking for what would act in a synergistic fashion with the agmatine, as just another pure agmatine product is not necessarily needed, and the only thing that would really act in such a way, would simply be a carb source. A carb such as a homopolysaccharide, fractionated barley amylopectin, or another novel carb would definitely be interesting. Something else that hasn't been done, that imo should be, is the bonding of agmatine and something else. Agmatine nitrate (would be expensive, but a good seller I'm sure), agmatine malate, and agmatine gluconate would all be solid.
When I use Cre-02 I feel the Poria Cocos acts as a nutrient partitioner fairly well. I feel Cre-02 is a supplement far beyond it's years.For? Protein?
One more product idea, is a nutrient partitioner, which could incorporate agmatine as well. The agmatine could be coupled with (Na-)R-ala, gymnema sylvestre, and banaba.
So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?
Something like the Ragnorok but without the NO2 would be great. This can be used as the base then you can add what ever else you want to it. Like an Athlyte powder.
I like the Ragnorok but endurance athletes suffer from the NO2. The motocross racers here hate the NO2 products on race race day. It causes the muscles to fatigue faster or pump and get heavy.
Athletes are very picky about their drinks. If you can tune your own drink that would be awesome.
Powder Athlytes
Powder Carnage
Powder Protein
I know personally what you mean. Ive played tennis at very high levels and have competed nationally in kettlebell competitions. On those days I can't take anything at all that might give me a pump, which is why I usually lure athletes away from citruvol outside of the weight room. I like this line of thinking though...this is definitely something I personally stand behind for sure. I wonder if this is already nin the works...... , who knows.So if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?
Something like the Ragnorok but without the NO2 would be great. This can be used as the base then you can add what ever else you want to it. Like an Athlyte powder.
I like the Ragnorok but endurance athletes suffer from the NO2. The motocross racers here hate the NO2 products on race race day. It causes the muscles to fatigue faster or pump and get heavy.
Athletes are very picky about their drinks. If you can tune your own drink that would be awesome.
Powder Athlytes
Powder Carnage
Powder Protein
Hmm, good call for sure, and in this case, they should add back the nootropics, plus othersSo if everything couldn't be concocted into one, maybe a powder form of Athlytes to add into your pre-ride drink?
Something like the Ragnorok but without the NO2 would be great. This can be used as the base then you can add what ever else you want to it. Like an Athlyte powder.
I like the Ragnorok but endurance athletes suffer from the NO2. The motocross racers here hate the NO2 products on race race day. It causes the muscles to fatigue faster or pump and get heavy.
Athletes are very picky about their drinks. If you can tune your own drink that would be awesome.
Powder Athlytes
Powder Carnage
Powder Protein
Hmm, that would definitely be nice, but would be on the costly side, that's for sure.If that were the case, we'd certainly toss some Cordygen in there since it aids each supplement you take by pumping more oxygen into your blood stream.
Haha, the base cost of both agmatine and Cordygen would be pricey though, you can't deny that.MST cordyceps is worth every penny!!!!!!!!!
Now that's a pill that could almost sedate you and make you so mellow. COP is great.Haha, the base cost of both agmatine and Cordygen would be pricey though, you can't deny that.
Not sure how I forgot this, but another addition in my endurance product mentioned earlier, could definitely be COP. A few others could be rhodiola rosea, gynostemma, ginseng/suma root, ashwagandha, arjuna, shilajit/moomiyo, PLCAR,and possibly echinacea, resveratrol, and quercetin.