VARICOCELE...can it effect testosterone?

Hyde12 · 12-20-2006, 07:07 PM

The doc told me that I have a VARICOCELE. Can this be the reason for my low libido and less than optimal testosterone??

Megazoid · 12-20-2006, 07:32 PM

Yes, varicocele will lower testosterone levels. Mines went from 26/7nmol day of getting varicocele (due to injury that caused vascular dysfunction) to 14nmol over a period of 3 months due to the varicocele causing testicular dysfunction and atrophy. Do you have any atrophy/shrinkage on the testicle?

Hyde12 · 12-20-2006, 09:08 PM

yes the left one seems smaller. did you get it fixed? and did you recover after the operation?

Megazoid · 12-21-2006, 07:12 AM

It's possible the varicocele is causing lower testosterone levels but other factor's can cause this also.

No improvement in size since getting the operation but it's early days. I am hoping with the use of HCG + Clomid i will regain normal testicular function. Your testicle is actually damaged because of the varicocele and need's to heal.

JanSz · 12-21-2006, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Megazoid

Yes, varicocele will lower testosterone levels. Mines went from 26/7nmol day of getting varicocele (due to injury that caused vascular dysfunction) to 14nmol over a period of 3 months due to the varicocele causing testicular dysfunction and atrophy. Do you have any atrophy/shrinkage on the testicle?

I am 66yo. I have got varicocele, probably 4 or 5 years ago. I had very relaxed scrotum and pain in testicle. I assumed that the pain was due to testicle having that much extra room to fall down. Now I see that varicocele must have been primary, then low testosterone then relaxed scrotum. To stop pain I was using tight briefs. I also started having ED problems, but at the time I did not know anything about testosterone, so I was using over the counter remedies that at first helped but not for long.
I am on Androgel now planing to change to a 10% cream, my scrotum is very thight, do pain, testis are small and soft.
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What is the usual experience with varicocele removal? Is the testicle restarting T production again?
If that is so, is it advisable to do the surgery at my age? I am thinking that I could possibly restart my testis with HCG and use only minimal amount of T creme. That could possibly be a good way to control E2 and DHT.
Comments please.

Megazoid · 12-21-2006, 09:14 AM

JanSz, it's possible that the varicocele caused your low testosterone. Varicoceles are vastly over looked in the medical world for various reasons. These caused blood flow issues to the testicle that impair function. If left for too long it can cause tissue death and damage the testicle.

By using TRT you would have already caused more harm than good to the testicle and maybe atrophy to the leydig cells that produce testosterone.

In general, testicles won't be respond over the age of 40 to HCG but it might still be worth trying. Phil (pmgamer) managed to get his testicles back working and he is in the same age bracket as you.

I don't think there would be any harm in getting that varicocele removed if you're in good health. It's a painless operation and you will walk away a few hour's later. Did the varicocele cause any atrophy for you JanSz?

There is still some "hope" that HCG "could" work for you. It might be worth giving it a try.

JanSz · 12-21-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Megazoid

JanSz, it's possible that the varicocele caused your low testosterone. Varicoceles are vastly over looked in the medical world for various reasons. These caused blood flow issues to the testicle that impair function. If left for too long it can cause tissue death and damage the testicle.

By using TRT you would have already caused more harm than good to the testicle and maybe atrophy to the leydig cells that produce testosterone.

In general, testicles won't be respond over the age of 40 to HCG but it might still be worth trying. Phil (pmgamer) managed to get his testicles back working and he is in the same age bracket as you.

I don't think there would be any harm in getting that varicocele removed if you're in good health. It's a painless operation and you will walk away a few hour's later. Did the varicocele cause any atrophy for you JanSz?
There is still some "hope" that HCG "could" work for you. It might be worth giving it a try.

Right now, after 2.5years of Androgel and no HCG, my testicles are soft and small. Scrotum is most of the time very tight, when it relaxes it is only a little bit relaxed. There is never any pain (as it used to be).
I am not sure varicocele caused testicle atrophy, I would say no. The atrophy started after I got on Androgel. Then again, I was not watching them that close.
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I learned about my varicocele at the sex doctor (director of sex department at university hospital in Manhattan NY, plus he is active in many other places). I wish there were no such a usless doctors around. He did not ofered me any hope or help. I happen to have on my desk a questionare from that hospital asking about my apprisal of their services. I am using that hospital for my enlarged prostate and sarcoma in my tigh.
Since english is my second language I could use some help in formulating my request to them about getting involved in anti-aging medicine. Many of their clients are older men. Many of them do not have prostate cancer but are low on testosterone and not getting any help from their sexual health department. They use a lot of nice words but are not backing it with any action.

Megazoid · 12-21-2006, 11:17 AM

Drop me a message on meso forums JanSz and i'll help you out.

Hyde12 · 12-21-2006, 05:11 PM

Thanks for the help. I cant wait to get this thing fixed so I can be normal again.

JanSz · 12-21-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Megazoid

Drop me a message on meso forums JanSz and i'll help you out.

Thank you.
I have send PM to you on meso board.

Rogue Drone · 12-21-2006, 08:33 PM

jaydee · 12-21-2006, 08:43 PM

I have a vercocele. How risky is surgery?

Rogue Drone · 12-21-2006, 08:48 PM

JanSz · 12-21-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jaydee

I have a vercocele. How risky is surgery?

Varicocele - Patient UK

Varicocele - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

jaydee · 12-21-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

The idea of a cut to the ballbag is definetly unappealing, and my concern would be more to address the underlying chronic factors that caused the condition, rather than just treat the acute affliction.

What do you mean "underlying condition"?

Thanks for the link JanSz, it seems like it would go ok, but it is not without a few risks. For my situation, I dont have any atrophy so for now its not worth the risk. I do have low T issues due to finasteride, but my problems are finasteride related, not the verecocele.

Hyde12 · 12-22-2006, 05:23 AM

Getting the nut sack cut open isnt that bad because ive had a vasectomy. I would rather go under the knife just to make sure this thing goes away.

Hyde12 · 12-24-2006, 01:10 PM

Hyde12 · 12-30-2006, 10:58 AM

Anybody else have any advice on this?