VARICOCELE...can it effect testosterone?

Hyde12 · 04-02-2007, 04:09 PM

All the drug companies want to do is make money off their stupid androgel (which seems like its making everyone feel worse) This is why they banned 4ad and other andro products because you could get your testosterone and not have to worry about a script. They dont want you to recover because they would make no money off of Testosterone (remember TRT is for life) so this is why they will almost never even try Clomid or Nolva. Hell, they even put synthetic estrogen in your household products (paraben) to lower your testosterone and cause you to get a script.

JanSz · 04-02-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyde12

All the drug companies want to do is make money off their stupid androgel (which seems like its making everyone feel worse) This is why they banned 4ad and other andro products because you could get your testosterone and not have to worry about a script. They dont want you to recover because they would make no money off of Testosterone (remember TRT is for life) so this is why they will almost never even try Clomid or Nolva. Hell, they even put synthetic estrogen in your household products (paraben) to lower your testosterone and cause you to get a script.

Paraben - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you have solid info on paraben,
revise or add to what curently is posted in Wikipedia.
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Are you saying that eiher Clomid or Nolva would boost my testis to production? They could not produce enough with LH=5.7
I never had to "recover" from anything, I never used any steroids.
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I do not care about price of Androgel, (but it helped me while I used it).
1. For three years that was the only T source I could find.
2. My prescription plan pays for it
3. I use 100mg/1gram T cream now, (cost me as much as deductible for Androgel).

I do not argue with you about pharma politics.
I just want to figure out my good choices with my best available information and resources.
Just want to survive present, I am not a activist.
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What do you know (or be willing to find) about my cancer (liposarcoma) and my possible (or not) use of HGH.

So far I did not found anything conclusive.
HGH promotes cell growth, one reson to stay away from it.
That is the only argument my surgeon came up with.
Hi works at cancer institute.
HGH-antagonist was proposed as one possibility to fight sarcoma. (I have a paper to support that).

In lack of supporting evidence/research I could use some doctors experience If they would be willing to share it.
Would have to be over long period of time (5years??).
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Hyde12 · 04-02-2007, 05:11 PM

Beware of Paraben Preservatives in Body Care Products
Can the Methyl Paraben in Your Shampoo Make You Fat?
Chemical Fact Sheet: Parabens - The Breast Cancer Fund
envirocancer.cornell.edu/Bibliography/General/bib.parabens.cfm

Hyde12 · 04-02-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JanSz

Paraben - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you have solid info on paraben,
revise or add to what curently is posted in Wikipedia.
=============================

Are you saying that eiher Clomid or Nolva would boost my testis to production? They could not produce enough with LH=5.7
I never had to "recover" from anything, I never used any steroids.
===============================
I do not care about price of Androgel, (but it helped me while I used it).
1. For three years that was the only T source I could find.
2. My prescription plan pays for it
3. I use 100mg/1gram T cream now, (cost me as much as deductible for Androgel).

I do not argue with you about pharma politics.
I just want to figure out my good choices with my best available information and resources.
Just want to survive present, I am not a activist.
================================

What do you know (or be willing to find) about my cancer (liposarcoma) and my possible (or not) use of HGH.

So far I did not found anything conclusive.
HGH promotes cell growth, one reson to stay away from it.
That is the only argument my surgeon came up with.
Hi works at cancer institute.
HGH-antagonist was proposed as one possibility to fight sarcoma. (I have a paper to support that).

In lack of supporting evidence/research I could use some doctors experience If they would be willing to share it.
Would have to be over long period of time (5years??).
.
.

Clomid will make your nuts grow like wildfire if you arent on TRT. Clomid is useless when on TRT. Toremifine is working miracles for people as well.

JanSz · 04-02-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyde12

Clomid will make your nuts grow like wildfire if you arent on TRT. Clomid is useless when on TRT. Toremifine is working miracles for people as well.

Toremifene (Fareston®)
Toremifene (Fareston®) : Cancerbackup

Hyde12 · 04-02-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JanSz

Toremifene (Fareston®)
Toremifene (Fareston®) : Cancerbackup

There are no studies on men (yet), but go over to the post cycle therapy forum for more info.

Frx · 04-05-2007, 01:38 PM

I have varicocele. Can someone tell me what exercises i can do in the gym and what is not good for varicocele? I am amateur wrestler, so what activity can harm me? Thank you

JanSz · 04-05-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frx

I have varicocele. Can someone tell me what exercises i can do in the gym and what is not good for varicocele? I am amateur wrestler, so what activity can harm me? Thank you

If I am not mistaken, Megazoid had a plan once, to develop web site devoted to varicocele problems.

Megazoid · 04-05-2007, 02:17 PM

Still going to go ahead with this one guy's, going to be setting up a website specifically for varicocele sufferers and also a forum for male health concerns.

Need to get my HRT plan sorted out then i will be spending time putting the website together. Will keep everyone posted.

Frx · 04-06-2007, 12:08 PM

How many times can you repeat varicocele surgery if it's not sucesfull?
(because there is limited number of veins)

**MuscleBound1337** · 04-06-2007, 12:24 PM

Hopefully more than once.. As I'm pretty sure mine recurred. Not sure yet as my doc is out of state and I have to wait till the 17th for an appt.

Frx · 04-13-2007, 04:44 AM

How long does it takes for leydig cells to regenerate after varicocele repair, I mean , is it matter of weeks or months...?
Tnx

JanSz · 04-13-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Megazoid

Still going to go ahead with this one guy's, going to be setting up a website specifically for varicocele sufferers and also a forum for male health concerns.

Need to get my HRT plan sorted out then i will be spending time putting the website together. Will keep everyone posted.

Hey do not rush, take a week or two.

fit4life05 · 04-14-2007, 02:42 AM

Hyde12, how was ur erections and libido before you surgery....and now how is it. Also do u have before and after T labs?

Can someone tell me what exactly a varicocele looks/feels like. All I can gather is that it is on the veins, but is it like a little ball or is it just swollen/enlarged?

Hyde12 · 04-14-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fit4life05

Hyde12, how was ur erections and libido before you surgery....and now how is it. Also do u have before and after T labs?

Can someone tell me what exactly a varicocele looks/feels like. All I can gather is that it is on the veins, but is it like a little ball or is it just swollen/enlarged?

My erections and libido were crap before surgery. They improved a lot after surgery. Some of my problems were from a bad PCT though. I never got after T labs because none of my doctors thought that it was necessary because they didn't think that a Varicocele would effect Testosterone. My labs before the surgery indicated a bad PCT: my total Testosterone was around 300 and my LH was about 2.5 and my FSH was about 3.0. My DHT was also low. A Varicocele feels like a bag of worms. If you google Varicocele it will show you a picture of it.

Frx · 04-14-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Megazoid

I've spent almost 4 month so far researching this because much like you i didn't want to give up and had hope, hower this faded when almost all research and urologists pointed to the fact that re-growth dosen't happen in varicocele patients due to the progressive damage caused by varicoceles. It "might" (just "might" be possible) to reverse some of this using HCG.

How can you say that my friend,all medical research on internet say that after surgery T level raises, and testicles re-grow to some point.

Entrez PubMed

SpringerLink - Journal Article

Center for Male Reproductive Medicine and Microsurgery

Hyde12 · 04-14-2007, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frx

How can you say that my friend,all medical research on internet say that after surgery T level raises, and testicles re-grow to some point.

Entrez PubMed

SpringerLink - Journal Article

Center for Male Reproductive Medicine and Microsurgery

My nuts got a little bigger after surgery