VARICOCELE...can it effect testosterone?

ddown · 10-03-2008, 07:26 PM

Just had inginual varicocele surgery performed 1 week ago on the left side. Ive had a nice morning erection almost every morning so far, whether or not this is just placebo or a real improvement in testosterone I don't know. For all you guys who have had the surgery - did your testicle(s) get a bit tender or mildly swollen after the procedure? If so when does this go away?

shyguava · 10-05-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ddown

Just had inginual varicocele surgery performed 1 week ago on the left side. Ive had a nice morning erection almost every morning so far, whether or not this is just placebo or a real improvement in testosterone I don't know. For all you guys who have had the surgery - did your testicle(s) get a bit tender or mildly swollen after the procedure? If so when does this go away?

Tender testicles is an understatement lol. I had my op on 29th Sept 08 and yes its still tender and mildly swollen. I think "UpTempo"is the one to answer this as he had his ops 30 days ago and I think he was saying still a little sore that far after ops. So I wont be optimistic in saying I am looking for any instant relief yet.

ddown · 10-05-2008, 04:18 PM

A urologist answered my question online about the testicle soreness. Here is what he said:

"Drew, this is a common sign after most inguinal procedures, especially with a varicocelectomy. The sensitivity and any associated swelling gradually disappear in about 6-8 weeks. The only way for atrophy to occur with a varicocelecy is if the testicular artery was inadvertently injured. This is quite an unusual complication. Good luck."

uptempo · 10-05-2008, 08:07 PM

i see thanks for the information...when I was waiting for my varicoele surgery, most people know that my pain went to my right side...and created a pulling discomfort pain from the blood..well that pain still hasn't subsided...the pain hurts even more when i touch one of the dorsal veins on my penis that goes down to the rightt side...sucks...! i really hope this pain will go away !

shyguava · 10-06-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ddown

A urologist answered my question online about the testicle soreness. Here is what he said:

"Drew, this is a common sign after most inguinal procedures, especially with a varicocelectomy. The sensitivity and any associated swelling gradually disappear in about 6-8 weeks. The only way for atrophy to occur with a varicocelecy is if the testicular artery was inadvertently injured. This is quite an unusual complication. Good luck."

Thanking Drew for that info. I normally worry a lot when everything isnt 100% pre or post op so hearing this makes me think less. I guess its the way our insides help protect that part that has been operated on. Similar to the way we have bruising and puffyness after an external blow to part of us. Okay....I shall calm down lol till my post op tests are done on 30th Oct. 08

shyguava · 10-07-2008, 03:53 AM

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i really like your encouragement shyguava..i too flew half way around the world just to see a better doctor where healthcare is actually better (IMO). I hope everything goes well with you from here on out. can you keep us updated shyguava on when your pain/discomfort fully goes away? i have been so desperate to ride a bike or run...but still havent been able to do that yet

Hey Up Tempo. I was amazed I could go on the back of my wifes scooter within 3 - 4 days of my operation. The roads in Ho Chi Minh City arent the smoothest but it was okay. You have to wear something for support under the shorts. Not boxer shorts. One road bump or sudden turn and it hurt. But by and large the pain is manageable and I can do plenty of the basics. The first day out of surgery and I couldnt get out of bed. The 2nd I couldnt put my shoes on to leave hospital (couldnt bend and tie the laces - damn stupid choice of shoe = hiking boots lol).

So day by day things are moving in a positive direction. I can walk and run a little already. But lifting the leg to get into a high wheel base car (some taxi here are like 4 wheel drives or people movers = not normal sedan size) is an effort (side saddle shuffle works)I shall keep you informed so you can compare results at similar stage.

Have you still got the puffy - fluid feeling in the nether regions? To me it feels sometimes like the left testicle is not in the exact position it used to be. Seems a bit towards the rear of the testicular sack. Normally when standing it drops to the middle better. Maybe I think too much too but I notice this. Trust its not tangled in some ligated veins.

uptempo · 10-07-2008, 03:58 AM

nice to hear from you shyguava....as of right now...my testicles SEEM to be going back to its normal size...its been 5 weeks and a half...i walk with no problems now...and so far these last three days my sac doesnt hang as low...i hope it stays this way...but walkin after a long day you can definitely feel discomfort...One of my dorsal veins on the right side of my penis still hurts every once in awhile..its like a semi sharp pain....i don't know if the blood being stuck there before surgery had anything to do with it...

i tried riding my bike today..even though i didnt sit on the seat...wasnt a good idea..my surgery wound in the lower abs started to ache/hurt a little bit...more waiting time is needed i guess...

shyguava · 10-07-2008, 06:30 AM

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nice to hear from you shyguava....as of right now...my testicles SEEM to be going back to its normal size...its been 5 weeks and a half...i walk with no problems now...and so far these last three days my sac doesnt hang as low...i hope it stays this way...but walkin after a long day you can definitely feel discomfort...One of my dorsal veins on the right side of my penis still hurts every once in awhile..its like a semi sharp pain....i don't know if the blood being stuck there before surgery had anything to do with it...

i tried riding my bike today..even though i didnt sit on the seat...wasnt a good idea..my surgery wound in the lower abs started to ache/hurt a little bit...more waiting time is needed i guess...

Ah yes...the lower ab cuts surprised me too. I had anticipated them being like "keyhole" size but when the bandages came off I was worried the kidneys had been removed for the black market (

).

I must admit that I find walking seems to increase the healing process compared to sedentary activies. I think the blood flow is a factor so dont give up going for a walk even you cant cycle comfortably.

quixotic · 10-07-2008, 07:24 AM

Hey shyguava and uptempo

Its exactly 11 since I underwent surgery. Within 3 hours of surgery I was able to walk to the restroom and on the second day I climbed a flight of stairs up and down a bunch of times , started driving on the 7Th day. Now I cant help but wonder if my surgeon is that good or if he has done anything at all !!! Also, he had prescribed a painkiller and it was to be taken if i experienced excessive pain. Apart from the initial tenderness and discomfort that are bound to be there I didnt experience any pain of unmanageable proportion, so I managed without a pain killer.
He has put me on a tablet Trental (Pentoxifylline) , it is a vasco dialator used to ensure blood flows well into even the tiniest of veins/arteries. It is used in general for vascular problems in the limbs and also to treat infertility (My SA results werent that good). I dont think this helps the other side (libido) side of the story in any way.

K1212 · 10-07-2008, 12:43 PM

do you guys who have or had varicocele veins had it on the testis itself or is it on the top of the testis like in this diagram, cuz mine seems to be all over the testis itself and I never see or hear about anyone like that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gray1147.png

K1212 · 10-07-2008, 12:49 PM

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Hey shyguava and uptempo

Its exactly 11 since I underwent surgery. Within 3 hours of surgery I was able to walk to the restroom and on the second day I climbed a flight of stairs up and down a bunch of times , started driving on the 7Th day. Now I cant help but wonder if my surgeon is that good or if he has done anything at all !!! Also, he had prescribed a painkiller and it was to be taken if i experienced excessive pain. Apart from the initial tenderness and discomfort that are bound to be there I didnt experience any pain of unmanageable proportion, so I managed without a pain killer.
He has put me on a tablet Trental (Pentoxifylline) , it is a vasco dialator used to ensure blood flows well into even the tiniest of veins/arteries. It is used in general for vascular problems in the limbs and also to treat infertility (My SA results werent that good). I dont think this helps the other side (libido) side of the story in any way.

so your libidio didnt improve after the surgery? did you get your testosterone levels checked before the surgery to see if they were effected?

darkblue1 · 10-07-2008, 04:50 PM

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do you guys who have or had varicocele veins had it on the testis itself or is it on the top of the testis like in this diagram, cuz mine seems to be all over the testis itself and I never see or hear about anyone like that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gray1147.png

Somteimes it will be at the bottom of testicle, and sometimes at the top, this happens especially when testicle has become small.

darkblue1 · 10-07-2008, 04:51 PM

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so your libidio didnt improve after the surgery? did you get your testosterone levels checked before the surgery to see if they were effected?

He mentioned in some other post that his total T level was 310

K1212 · 10-07-2008, 07:11 PM

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Somteimes it will be at the bottom of testicle, and sometimes at the top, this happens especially when testicle has become small.

mine must be odd because I feel it is wrapped around the middle of the testicle itself

darkblue1 · 10-07-2008, 07:21 PM

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mine must be odd because I feel it is wrapped around the middle of the testicle itself

Just ignore it. it behaves strangely sometimes.

uptempo · 10-07-2008, 07:56 PM

my veins were wrapped around my left testicles you can see it on the sides...but most of them were on the top...after the surgery...all the veins were gone...my doctor literally ripped out a bunch of long veins inside and put it in a jar and asked me if i wanted to keep it...but right now..it seems like new veins are growing? not even sure...semi-puffed up...thats for sure..

K1212 · 10-28-2008, 06:57 PM

anyone have any updates on how they were doing, I finally saw a Varicocele specialist today, it sucks when I probably know more about it then him

I was more or less concerned about my testosterone but he of course didnt believe me when I told him my testosterone was MUCH higher before I discovered the varicocele, he pretty much said "well there is no way of knowing that without a blood test"

Still unsure if I am going to have the surgery or not, he kind of scared me out if it when he hinted that it might not improve pain and he wasnt sure about testosterone being restored

Does anyone recommend any Varicocele specialist doctors in the USA? He just didnt seem confident in it and I hate it when Doctors dont really listen to their patient or dont allow them to talk or really ask questions, I just hate it when I know more about something then a doctor and I have to make myself appear to be an idiot just not to hurt a doctors ego, this has happened on more then 1 occasion including some ******* Veterinarian who manipulated me into have a amputation on my dog when it probably wasnt neccessary, and in many ways led me to the mess I am in today

darkblue1 · 10-28-2008, 11:15 PM

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